Date: 13/01/2015 12:18:24
From: Dropbear
ID: 660092
Subject: data flight recorders

When they recover these things, why do they put them into a container of water? Is this to stop corrosion and if so, corrosion of what ?

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:22:53
From: JudgeMental
ID: 660093
Subject: re: data flight recorders

the electronics i guess. i believe the modern ones use solid state memory instead of the mag tape.

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:33:49
From: transition
ID: 660096
Subject: re: data flight recorders

>When they recover these things, why do they put them into a container of water? Is this to stop corrosion and if so, corrosion of what ?

…. cracks or leaks …… bubbles coming out …?

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:38:09
From: JudgeMental
ID: 660097
Subject: re: data flight recorders

they only put them in water if they have been recovered from water.

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:39:21
From: sibeen
ID: 660098
Subject: re: data flight recorders

What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:42:03
From: Dropbear
ID: 660100
Subject: re: data flight recorders

sibeen said:


What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

It’s party time

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:44:51
From: Tamb
ID: 660104
Subject: re: data flight recorders

sibeen said:


What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

They sing the Aeroplane jelly song.

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Date: 13/01/2015 12:45:30
From: sibeen
ID: 660105
Subject: re: data flight recorders

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

They sing the Aeroplane jelly song.

ROFL

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Date: 13/01/2015 13:00:28
From: Michael V
ID: 660113
Subject: re: data flight recorders

Tamb said:


sibeen said:

What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

They sing the Aeroplane jelly song.

Nice work!

:) :) :)

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Date: 13/01/2015 13:04:13
From: Tamb
ID: 660116
Subject: re: data flight recorders

Michael V said:


Tamb said:

sibeen said:

What happens if a plane lands in a pool full of jelly?

They sing the Aeroplane jelly song.

Nice work!

:) :) :)

And for those of you who don’t know it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJZ2w6Q_Uww

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Date: 13/01/2015 17:09:51
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 660180
Subject: re: data flight recorders

15

down vote

accepted

This is actually a fairly standard thing to do with electronics that have been submerged: They are placed in water (ideally fresh, clean water) to both delay the onset of corrosion and dilute any salts or other chemicals that they came in contact with while submerged.

When you remove electronics from water and let them dry out they begin to form corrosion on all the little exposed bits of metal – chip legs, solder joints, capacitors, etc. – which can badly damage the device when it is powered back on. Keeping the device submerged in water delays the onset of this corrosion because the dissolved oxygen in the water is lower than the oxygen in the air that would be hitting those parts as they dry out.

The Cockpit Voice Recorder and Flight Data Recorder are water resistant, but they are not necessarily waterproof (particularly after a crash, which may puncture their casings or damage seals), so they get placed in a container of fresh water for their trip to the NTSB’s lab. When the still-immersed equipment arrives at the NTSB laboratory it can be examined and dried in a controlled environment, maximizing the chance to recover data.

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/6420/why-is-the-fdr-and-cvr-put-into-water-again-after-a-water-crash

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-26/black-box-flight-recorders/5343456

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Date: 13/01/2015 17:19:06
From: Dropbear
ID: 660183
Subject: re: data flight recorders

Thanks SP

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Date: 13/01/2015 17:20:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 660185
Subject: re: data flight recorders

Skeptic Pete said:

This is actually a fairly standard thing to do with electronics that have been submerged: They are placed in water (ideally fresh, clean water) to both delay the onset of corrosion and dilute any salts or other chemicals that they came in contact with while submerged.

When you remove electronics from water and let them dry out they begin to form corrosion

Yes. Corrosion is caused by the combination of electrolyte, water and oxygen. The worst possible thing for corrosion is evaporation of salt water. Evaporation has the dual effect of concentrating the salt electrolyte on the surface and allowing oxygen into contact with that surface. Placing in fresh water acts to remove any electrolytes from the surface and well as to partly excluding oxygen.

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Date: 13/01/2015 22:17:57
From: wookiemeister
ID: 660306
Subject: re: data flight recorders

I only use the finest spring water for my flight recorders

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