Date: 22/01/2015 08:47:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 664669
Subject: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

More at link, including pics

The status of the Wollemi pine is set to be elevated to critically endangered because of threats by a root mould and because there are so few specimens left in the wild.

The pine, discovered in the greater Blue Mountains area 21 years ago, was reviewed by the NSW Scientific Committee after the International Union for the Conservation of Nature listed it as critical.

The NSW committee has recommended the highest level of endangered status because it is so susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi, a pathogen which causes dieback of branches and stems.

While no individual trees have died from it, there is no comprehensive control to treat it, although scientists are experimenting with injecting a fungicide into infected trees.

There are also fewer than 100 mature individuals in the wild and fewer than 300 juvenile plants.

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Date: 22/01/2015 08:49:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 664670
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Divine Angel said:


More at link, including pics

The status of the Wollemi pine is set to be elevated to critically endangered because of threats by a root mould and because there are so few specimens left in the wild.

The pine, discovered in the greater Blue Mountains area 21 years ago, was reviewed by the NSW Scientific Committee after the International Union for the Conservation of Nature listed it as critical.

The NSW committee has recommended the highest level of endangered status because it is so susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi, a pathogen which causes dieback of branches and stems.

While no individual trees have died from it, there is no comprehensive control to treat it, although scientists are experimenting with injecting a fungicide into infected trees.

There are also fewer than 100 mature individuals in the wild and fewer than 300 juvenile plants.

Yet they propagated millions?

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Date: 22/01/2015 08:50:44
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 664671
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

My exs mum has them growing in hobart

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Date: 22/01/2015 08:52:27
From: Divine Angel
ID: 664673
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:

Yet they propagated millions?

Yeah, I don’t understand that part. I guess they mean “extinct in the wild”. AFAIK the actual location of the pine grove is still a secret.

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Date: 22/01/2015 08:58:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 664675
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Yet they propagated millions?

Yeah, I don’t understand that part. I guess they mean “extinct in the wild”. AFAIK the actual location of the pine grove is still a secret.

this is all true. Yet we could be led to believe that what tyhey sold us wasn’t really a Wollemi Pine. ;)

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?

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Date: 22/01/2015 08:59:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 664676
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Money trumps all.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:01:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 664677
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Divine Angel said:


Money trumps all.

Particularly if one is already positioned to changes rules to one’s own advantage.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:02:22
From: Aquila
ID: 664678
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

“susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi”

Aren’t avocado plants susceptible to this disease also?

When I was working at Birdwood nursery they had foot baths containing copper sulphate at each entry point to the shade houses to reduce the risk of spreading Phytophthera and infecting the rootstock.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:03:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 664679
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Aquila said:


“susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi”

Aren’t avocado plants susceptible to this disease also?

When I was working at Birdwood nursery they had foot baths containing copper sulphate at each entry point to the shade houses to reduce the risk of spreading Phytophthera and infecting the rootstock.

There isn’t much that isn’t suscptible.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:08:34
From: Aquila
ID: 664680
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Aquila said:

“susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi”

Aren’t avocado plants susceptible to this disease also?

When I was working at Birdwood nursery they had foot baths containing copper sulphate at each entry point to the shade houses to reduce the risk of spreading Phytophthera and infecting the rootstock.

There isn’t much that isn’t suscptible.


yeah, come to think of it, they had cooper sulphate foot baths at all the shade houses.

The Wollemi Pine is an interesting looking plant. I can imagine forests of them when dinosaurs roamed the land

)

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:09:59
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664681
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?

that’s begging the question i believe.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:13:38
From: Michael V
ID: 664682
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Aquila said:


“susceptible to Phytophthera cinnamomi”

Aren’t avocado plants susceptible to this disease also?

When I was working at Birdwood nursery they had foot baths containing copper sulphate at each entry point to the shade houses to reduce the risk of spreading Phytophthera and infecting the rootstock.

And grapes (except New World grapes). Bringing New World grapes to Europe effectively wiped out the European wine industry. It was re-established mainly using cuttings from Australian grown grapes.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:16:20
From: Dropbear
ID: 664684
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

I would have thought that if there was only a single native grove left, that propagating it and spreading it around far and wide was an excellent survival strategy for it…

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:17:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 664685
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?

that’s begging the question i believe.

If you want to bother bullishitting on about Romans, yeah.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:17:48
From: Divine Angel
ID: 664686
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Dropbear said:


I would have thought that if there was only a single native grove left, that propagating it and spreading it around far and wide was an excellent survival strategy for it…

Clearly the answer is GMO Wollemi.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:18:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 664688
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Dropbear said:


I would have thought that if there was only a single native grove left, that propagating it and spreading it around far and wide was an excellent survival strategy for it…

yes. There are indeed a lot of reasons for thinking that way. Just think. Cane toads and camels may be extinct elsewhere had we not used them to make things extinct here.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:19:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 664689
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Divine Angel said:


Dropbear said:

I would have thought that if there was only a single native grove left, that propagating it and spreading it around far and wide was an excellent survival strategy for it…

Clearly the answer is GMO Wollemi.

why?

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:20:23
From: Divine Angel
ID: 664690
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

To make Wollemi immune to the things threatening their survival.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:20:33
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664691
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

i see roughie is in one of his stupid moods again.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:21:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 664692
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Divine Angel said:


To make Wollemi immune to the things threatening their survival.

Are you getting enough sleep?

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:22:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 664693
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i see roughie is in one of his stupid moods again.

No. I’m always going to reject BS made up by academics to strengthen their position on the chair.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:25:23
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664694
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

maybe actually read about who is propagating them first before saying ignorant things. you have a track record so you need to get over that before you are taken seriously.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:26:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 664696
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


maybe actually read about who is propagating them first before saying ignorant things. you have a track record so you need to get over that before you are taken seriously.

:)

ha ha. Im glad you can make up funnies.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:27:57
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664697
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

and i’m glad you’re ignorant.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:29:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 664699
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


and i’m glad you’re ignorant.

he he. Get yourself some coffee or something.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:32:42
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 664700
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

roughbarked said:

Yet they propagated millions?

Yeah, I don’t understand that part. I guess they mean “extinct in the wild”. AFAIK the actual location of the pine grove is still a secret.

this is all true. Yet we could be led to believe that what tyhey sold us wasn’t really a Wollemi Pine. ;)

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?

The propogation and sale of the plants raised money to allow the security and safety of the original trees. The people involved were always aware of the problems with fungus and mold, and every person entering the area (except the first discoverer) has taken proper precautions.

The plants have survived many millions of years with birds and bats transferring Dog knows what into the area, I doubt a few very careful scientists will wipe them out.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:34:02
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664701
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

those dirty propagators are the Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust but i guess they’re all “academics” and don’t know anything.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:35:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 664702
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Carmen_Sandiego said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Yeah, I don’t understand that part. I guess they mean “extinct in the wild”. AFAIK the actual location of the pine grove is still a secret.

this is all true. Yet we could be led to believe that what tyhey sold us wasn’t really a Wollemi Pine. ;)

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?

The propogation and sale of the plants raised money to allow the security and safety of the original trees. The people involved were always aware of the problems with fungus and mold, and every person entering the area (except the first discoverer) has taken proper precautions.

The plants have survived many millions of years with birds and bats transferring Dog knows what into the area, I doubt a few very careful scientists will wipe them out.

Yes these points are reasonably salient.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:36:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 664703
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


those dirty propagators are the Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust but i guess they’re all “academics” and don’t know anything.

OH dear. Now you are trying to put words in my mouth that aren’t there. At least I’ve got your attention though so I suppose it will all be worth it in the long run.

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:39:42
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 664705
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

those dirty propagators are the Royal Botanic Gardens & Domain Trust but i guess they’re all “academics” and don’t know anything.

OH dear. Now you are trying to put words in my mouth that aren’t there. At least I’ve got your attention though so I suppose it will all be worth it in the long run.

?

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Date: 22/01/2015 09:41:22
From: JudgeMental
ID: 664707
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators(sic) anywhere near them?

No. I’m always going to reject BS made up by academics to strengthen their position on the chair.

your words roughie.

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Date: 22/01/2015 10:15:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 664719
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators(sic) anywhere near them?

No. I’m always going to reject BS made up by academics to strengthen their position on the chair.

your words roughie.


yes they are but the usual is to not ask me why.

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Date: 22/01/2015 10:42:23
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 664754
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

> the International Union for the Conservation of Nature listed it as critical

Then the “International Union for the Conservation of Nature” is a pile of manure.

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Date: 22/01/2015 10:43:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 664756
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

mollwollfumble said:


> the International Union for the Conservation of Nature listed it as critical

Then the “International Union for the Conservation of Nature” is a pile of manure.

Thanks mollwoll.

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Date: 22/01/2015 10:45:49
From: dv
ID: 664759
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?
—-

To stave off extinction?

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Date: 22/01/2015 10:46:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 664760
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

dv said:

My point also included the fact that if they were soo rare and endangered and sensitive, why did they allow greedy and dirty propogators anywhere near them?
—-

To stave off extinction?

Ah. thanks dv.

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Date: 22/01/2015 13:41:21
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664838
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

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Date: 22/01/2015 13:54:27
From: Dropbear
ID: 664839
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Mrs Bear bought me a WP for christmas a couple of years back, unfortunately the ornate pot I put it in did not have sufficient drainage and I killed it. .

Ah well…

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Date: 22/01/2015 13:54:46
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664840
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

+1

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Date: 22/01/2015 13:57:50
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664841
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

that way they could afford to then pay me to bonsai a heap of them and sell these as aussie christmas trees

:P

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Date: 22/01/2015 14:08:59
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664843
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

How many seedlings, planted in the ground, would it take to get the Wollemi pine off the extinction list?

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Date: 22/01/2015 14:11:11
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664845
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


How many seedlings, planted in the ground, would it take to get the Wollemi pine off the extinction list?

All of them.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:18:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 664866
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Dropbear said:


Mrs Bear bought me a WP for christmas a couple of years back, unfortunately the ornate pot I put it in did not have sufficient drainage and I killed it. .

Ah well…

one of thousands. You aren’t the lone stranger. This is why i never purchased one for myself or anyone else.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:18:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 664867
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

+1

You are both nutters but that is only OK if they used your five bucks more n wisely.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:19:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 664868
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

that way they could afford to then pay me to bonsai a heap of them and sell these as aussie christmas trees

:P

You haven’t done much bonsai, have you?

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:19:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 664869
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


How many seedlings, planted in the ground, would it take to get the Wollemi pine off the extinction list?

ain’t going to cut it.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:21:25
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664870
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

+1

You are both nutters but that is only OK if they used your five bucks more n wisely.

I was thinking that the 5 dollars could go towards seed propagation and advertising

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:21:36
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664871
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

create a campain to save them by selling seeds for 5 dollars each

Ill buy one and plant it

that way they could afford to then pay me to bonsai a heap of them and sell these as aussie christmas trees

:P

You haven’t done much bonsai, have you?

What are you suggesting? You couldn’t develop dwarf WP’s?

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:23:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 664873
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

that way they could afford to then pay me to bonsai a heap of them and sell these as aussie christmas trees

:P

You haven’t done much bonsai, have you?

What are you suggesting? You couldn’t develop dwarf WP’s?

not at all. There is more to how a cookie crumbles than the crumbs.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:23:26
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664874
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Dropbear said:

Mrs Bear bought me a WP for christmas a couple of years back, unfortunately the ornate pot I put it in did not have sufficient drainage and I killed it. .

Ah well…

one of thousands. You aren’t the lone stranger. This is why i never purchased one for myself or anyone else.

poor excuse for an endangered plant species

create some sufficient drainage or plant the pine where there is sufficient drainage

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:27:42
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664878
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

You haven’t done much bonsai, have you?

What are you suggesting? You couldn’t develop dwarf WP’s?

not at all. There is more to how a cookie crumbles than the crumbs.

I’d assume that it would only require large bags of surplus time.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:29:44
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664879
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:31:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 664880
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

What are you suggesting? You couldn’t develop dwarf WP’s?

not at all. There is more to how a cookie crumbles than the crumbs.

I’d assume that it would only require large bags of surplus time.

if you could remove the word, assume.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:31:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 664881
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

been there done that.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:32:16
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664882
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

pruning plants back so they produce bud closer to the stem does ensure that bud is loaded with resin. If people could grow their own this would be the practice rather than attempting to get as many pounds as possible off a single plant.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:33:55
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664884
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

not at all. There is more to how a cookie crumbles than the crumbs.

I’d assume that it would only require large bags of surplus time.

if you could remove the word, assume.

Your caging. I’ll found out more about WP growth characteristics when I get back from an errand.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:34:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 664886
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

pruning plants back so they produce bud closer to the stem does ensure that bud is loaded with resin. If people could grow their own this would be the practice rather than attempting to get as many pounds as possible off a single plant.

I’m sure you know all about it.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:35:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 664887
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

been there done that.

thought so

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:35:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 664888
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

I’d assume that it would only require large bags of surplus time.

if you could remove the word, assume.

Your caging. I’ll found out more about WP growth characteristics when I get back from an errand.

No chicken wire in sight mate.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:36:07
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664889
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

bonsai cannabis plants anyone?

pruning plants back so they produce bud closer to the stem does ensure that bud is loaded with resin. If people could grow their own this would be the practice rather than attempting to get as many pounds as possible off a single plant.

I’m sure you know all about it.

No. I know as much as I have experienced.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:38:06
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664891
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

if you could remove the word, assume.

Your caging. I’ll found out more about WP growth characteristics when I get back from an errand.

No chicken wire in sight mate.

Just chicken bait. The wire is hidden behind your not providing detail. I would ask and stick around for an answer but I have an errand to run.

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:38:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 664892
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

pruning plants back so they produce bud closer to the stem does ensure that bud is loaded with resin. If people could grow their own this would be the practice rather than attempting to get as many pounds as possible off a single plant.

I’m sure you know all about it.

No. I know as much as I have experienced.

So you know that the lower buds naturally atrophy?

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Date: 22/01/2015 15:43:19
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664894
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

I’m sure you know all about it.

No. I know as much as I have experienced.

So you know that the lower buds naturally atrophy?

That sounds like a process I haven’t been informed of but will have to chase you up about it when I get home. Cheers.

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Date: 22/01/2015 17:38:09
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664916
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

So what are the growth characteristics of the Wollemi Pine that confound the bonsai practitioner rb?

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Date: 22/01/2015 17:52:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 664926
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


So what are the growth characteristics of the Wollemi Pine that confound the bonsai practitioner rb?

None apart from possibility of infection from the numerous cuts which may each time require cleaning the tools before and after use.

confuddlement wasn’t my point.

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Date: 22/01/2015 17:54:16
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664928
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

So what are the growth characteristics of the Wollemi Pine that confound the bonsai practitioner rb?

None apart from possibility of infection from the numerous cuts which may each time require cleaning the tools before and after use.

confuddlement wasn’t my point.

Aaaah! Then I am even more enthusiastic. Bonsai with adrenalin element. Could take off. :P

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Date: 22/01/2015 17:57:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 664930
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

So what are the growth characteristics of the Wollemi Pine that confound the bonsai practitioner rb?

None apart from possibility of infection from the numerous cuts which may each time require cleaning the tools before and after use.

confuddlement wasn’t my point.

Aaaah! Then I am even more enthusiastic. Bonsai with adrenalin element. Could take off. :P

What I was referring to was the actual work. The thousand cuts, so to speak. On each tree that is.

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Date: 22/01/2015 17:59:28
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664933
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

None apart from possibility of infection from the numerous cuts which may each time require cleaning the tools before and after use.

confuddlement wasn’t my point.

Aaaah! Then I am even more enthusiastic. Bonsai with adrenalin element. Could take off. :P

What I was referring to was the actual work. The thousand cuts, so to speak. On each tree that is.

pfft! that is the whole point of bonsai as meditation! Sounds ideal to me. :)

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Date: 22/01/2015 18:35:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 664966
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

Aaaah! Then I am even more enthusiastic. Bonsai with adrenalin element. Could take off. :P

What I was referring to was the actual work. The thousand cuts, so to speak. On each tree that is.

pfft! that is the whole point of bonsai as meditation! Sounds ideal to me. :)


Depends upon how many hundreds of thousands of units you wish to output.

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Date: 22/01/2015 18:38:32
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664970
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

What I was referring to was the actual work. The thousand cuts, so to speak. On each tree that is.

pfft! that is the whole point of bonsai as meditation! Sounds ideal to me. :)


Depends upon how many hundreds of thousands of units you wish to output.

I’m not daunted by imagining big jobs.

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Date: 22/01/2015 18:40:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 664973
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

pfft! that is the whole point of bonsai as meditation! Sounds ideal to me. :)


Depends upon how many hundreds of thousands of units you wish to output.

I’m not daunted by imagining big jobs.

I Can see that. There is a difference about “you can’t put your hands in your head, Oh No”

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Date: 22/01/2015 18:46:29
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 664977
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

Depends upon how many hundreds of thousands of units you wish to output.

I’m not daunted by imagining big jobs.

I Can see that. There is a difference about “you can’t put your hands in your head, Oh No”

I’ve got various retirement plans. I might even add trying to put my hands in my head to them.

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Date: 22/01/2015 18:57:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 664981
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

I’m not daunted by imagining big jobs.

I Can see that. There is a difference about “you can’t put your hands in your head, Oh No”

I’ve got various retirement plans. I might even add trying to put my hands in my head to them.

May beat getting dementia yet. ;)

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:07:46
From: AwesomeO
ID: 664993
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:10:29
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 665000
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

I Can see that. There is a difference about “you can’t put your hands in your head, Oh No”

I’ve got various retirement plans. I might even add trying to put my hands in my head to them.

May beat getting dementia yet. ;)

Scrabble and chess aren’t the cure-all they used to be. :P

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:10:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 665002
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

AwesomeO said:


The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

The squirrel glider?

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:14:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 665009
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Postpocelipse said:

I’ve got various retirement plans. I might even add trying to put my hands in my head to them.

May beat getting dementia yet. ;)

Scrabble and chess aren’t the cure-all they used to be. :P

Oh, you haven’t tried jigsaw crosswords yet.

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:19:13
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 665018
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Postpocelipse said:

roughbarked said:

May beat getting dementia yet. ;)

Scrabble and chess aren’t the cure-all they used to be. :P

Oh, you haven’t tried jigsaw crosswords yet.

I don’t think I’ll get time for games until I’m catching up on Pixar releases with Xander.

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:25:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 665021
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

AwesomeO said:


The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:26:57
From: AwesomeO
ID: 665022
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

Micro finance might be a way of funding these sort of things.

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:29:52
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 665023
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

AwesomeO said:

Micro finance might be a way of funding these sort of things.

Can’t even have a hobby these days without a business plan.

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:29:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 665024
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

Micro finance might be a way of funding these sort of things.

and kickstarter to to get it all started

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:46:09
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665027
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

i guess one reason is that some would be planted in inappropriate places and you’d end up with 40m trees in suburbia.

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Date: 22/01/2015 19:56:28
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 665031
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i guess one reason is that some would be planted in inappropriate places and you’d end up with 40m trees in suburbia.

instructions how to plant, where to plant, how to look after etc would have to be part of the whole package

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:02:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665033
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:12:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 665036
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:14:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 665038
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

Micro finance might be a way of funding these sort of things.

Any way of seeing funding on the ground in the right place at the right time is what we all could be working towards.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:15:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 665040
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i guess one reason is that some would be planted in inappropriate places and you’d end up with 40m trees in suburbia.

You got it bud. and they say science is not worth funding.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:16:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 665041
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


JudgeMental said:

i guess one reason is that some would be planted in inappropriate places and you’d end up with 40m trees in suburbia.

instructions how to plant, where to plant, how to look after etc would have to be part of the whole package

No.. dumbasses are everywhere. a good science experiment needs better controls in place.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:17:09
From: Michael V
ID: 665042
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

You can buy the plants from many places now, even Masters Hardware. IIRC, they are grown by tissue culture. Seedlings grow very slowly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollemia#Cultivation_and_uses

https://www.masters.com.au/product/100106620/wollemi-pine-200mm

http://www.wollemipine.com/science.php

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:18:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 665044
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.

ridiculously.. nods

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:19:09
From: Michael V
ID: 665045
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.
You can buy plants. They are not seedlings.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:20:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 665048
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

You can buy the plants from many places now, even Masters Hardware. IIRC, they are grown by tissue culture. Seedlings grow very slowly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wollemia#Cultivation_and_uses

https://www.masters.com.au/product/100106620/wollemi-pine-200mm

http://www.wollemipine.com/science.php

indeed.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:20:27
From: Michael V
ID: 665049
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.

ridiculously.. nods

The reason they are so expensive is to get funding for conservation.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:20:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 665050
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


JudgeMental said:

might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.
You can buy plants. They are not seedlings.

correct. Collecting of seeds is not allowable.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:21:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 665051
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

might be a while before seeds are available. you can buy seedlings but they are expensive.

ridiculously.. nods

The reason they are so expensive is to get funding for conservation.

There is a lot of money wasted on shining arses elsewhere that could be easily diverted.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:28:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 665052
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

The Wollemi Pines time has come, and it has nothing to do with man, the squirrel glider otoh…

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:34:40
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 665057
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

I think its an Tassie tree without searching for it

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:36:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 665062
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

I think its an Tassie tree without searching for it

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:41:40
From: buffy
ID: 665071
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

What is so hard about setting up a website where people can buy Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them themselves?

in fact I would go further to include all the endangered plants

the 5 dollars goes towards seedling production of all endangered plants

and include endangered animals as well where zoos get the donated money to create endangered species reproductive program

where some species can be looked after at peoples homes while other species are looked after by zoos

the idea being that people can raise various endangered species at home but later release them back into the wild

some training would be required, and some forward planning involved as well like releasing a species back into the wild as a group, ie ten males and ten females could be released as a group back into the wild

some species may require different needs so all of that needs to be considered

I would be happy to buy a few Wollemi Pine seeds for 5 dollars and plant them with some basic planting and looking afgter instructions that go along with any plant

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

Go back to near the top of the thread. The answer is in there.

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Date: 22/01/2015 20:53:34
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 665075
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

CrazyNeutrino said:

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

The tree has survived many ice ages, it will grow fine.

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Date: 22/01/2015 21:27:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 665096
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Carmen_Sandiego said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

The tree has survived many ice ages, it will grow fine.

NO. It will grow fine if you can get it through the initial hundreds of years.

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Date: 22/01/2015 21:38:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 665099
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

buffy said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’ll ask one question. “where do you live?”

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

Go back to near the top of the thread. The answer is in there.

Now.. how do you want me to comment?

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Date: 22/01/2015 21:59:34
From: Michael V
ID: 665103
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

and I’ll ask it again.

We are talking about a tree that escaped our attention by being where?

I think its an Tassie tree without searching for it

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:12:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 665113
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I think its an Tassie tree without searching for it

I live in Ballarat, how would it grow here?

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.


Did I mention frost?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:13:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 665114
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.


Did I mention frost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtqYWQBnw&list=RD7gqYWQKBnw

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:16:11
From: Michael V
ID: 665116
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.
Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.

Did I mention frost?
No, I did.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:16:55
From: Michael V
ID: 665117
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.


Did I mention frost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtqYWQBnw&list=RD7gqYWQKBnw

I can’t get Youtube, so to understand, I will need a precis.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:18:48
From: furious
ID: 665118
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Don’t worry, no one understands…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:20:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 665121
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • I can’t get Youtube, so to understand, I will need a precis.

Don’t worry, no one understands…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tgqYWQKBnw

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:20:55
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 665122
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Did I mention frost?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtqYWQBnw&list=RD7gqYWQKBnw

I can’t get Youtube, so to understand, I will need a precis.

or a run-down through interpretive dance…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:22:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 665124
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.

Did I mention frost?
No, I did.

It wasn’t necessary for the point I was making or it would have been done.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:26:44
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 665128
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

roughbarked said:

It is a tree that grows in NSW . Ballarat won’t cut it. Not easily. You could try but it is an expensive gambit.

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.


Did I mention frost?

What, specifically is it about Ballarat that you think will kill the tree?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:29:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 665130
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Carmen_Sandiego said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

Wollemi Pine grows in Scotland. It is strongly frost tolerant.


Did I mention frost?

What, specifically is it about Ballarat that you think will kill the tree?

topography is one.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:32:20
From: furious
ID: 665131
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

You’re an idiot…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:33:14
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 665132
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

roughbarked said:

Did I mention frost?

What, specifically is it about Ballarat that you think will kill the tree?

topography is one.

…?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:34:11
From: AwesomeO
ID: 665133
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Carmen_Sandiego said:


roughbarked said:

Carmen_Sandiego said:

What, specifically is it about Ballarat that you think will kill the tree?

topography is one.

…?

If ye asked me on a Monday I’d say yeeessssssss

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:34:32
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665134
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

grabs popcorn. which for me is something cos i hate the stuff.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:35:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 665136
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • topography is one.

You’re an idiot…

ha ha

I love doing it.

If any of you knew better, you’d tell me.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:38:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 665138
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


furious said:
  • topography is one.

You’re an idiot…

ha ha

I love doing it.

If any of you knew better, you’d tell me.

Let us please look at the facts that we have been given.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:40:35
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 665140
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Let us please look at the facts that we have been given.

A plant that happily grows in Amsterdam, Scotland, Belgium, and Ireland won’t grow in Ballarat?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:41:55
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 665142
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


grabs popcorn. which for me is something cos i hate the stuff.

i think there’s enough fertiliser spouted around here to grow many Wollemi…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:42:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 665143
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Carmen_Sandiego said:


roughbarked said:

Let us please look at the facts that we have been given.

A plant that happily grows in Amsterdam, Scotland, Belgium, and Ireland won’t grow in Ballarat?

Yep

Equally, it will not grow in the places you mention even though you seem assured of the facts.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:42:22
From: furious
ID: 665144
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Yeah, too many contours… Apparently…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:44:17
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665145
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g188590-d244461-i100205298-Botanical_Garden_Hortus_Botanicus-Amsterdam_North_Holland_Province.html

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:44:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 665146
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

stumpy_seahorse said:


JudgeMental said:

grabs popcorn. which for me is something cos i hate the stuff.

i think there’s enough fertiliser spouted around here to grow many Wollemi…

I throw shit everywhere and can you tell me what it grows other than pre-empted contempt?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:44:44
From: sibeen
ID: 665147
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


http://www.tripadvisor.com.au/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g188590-d244461-i100205298-Botanical_Garden_Hortus_Botanicus-Amsterdam_North_Holland_Province.html

Shopped!

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:45:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 665148
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • A plant that happily grows in Amsterdam, Scotland, Belgium, and Ireland won’t grow in Ballarat?

Yeah, too many contours… Apparently…

well, you do have some ability to see science as it is.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:46:44
From: Michael V
ID: 665150
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

roughbarked said:

Let us please look at the facts that we have been given.

A plant that happily grows in Amsterdam, Scotland, Belgium, and Ireland won’t grow in Ballarat?

Yep

Equally, it will not grow in the places you mention even though you seem assured of the facts.

Really? Not what I have read.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:47:12
From: furious
ID: 665151
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Besides, only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:47:19
From: party_pants
ID: 665152
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

For a species once regard as extinct for near on 200 million years, an upgrade to critically endangered is quite a step forward.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:47:22
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665153
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:47:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 665154
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Carmen_Sandiego said:

A plant that happily grows in Amsterdam, Scotland, Belgium, and Ireland won’t grow in Ballarat?

Yep

Equally, it will not grow in the places you mention even though you seem assured of the facts.

Really? Not what I have read.

Yeah.. weeds grow everywhere.. but what has that to do with saving species?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:48:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 665155
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:


Besides, only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

Yes..

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:48:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 665156
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

party_pants said:


For a species once regard as extinct for near on 200 million years, an upgrade to critically endangered is quite a step forward.

No

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:48:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 665157
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

Who gives a shit?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:48:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 665158
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

Who gives a shit?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:49:25
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665159
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

black wattles are buggered then.

;-)

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:50:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 665160
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

Who gives a shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJefbp-s9LA

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:50:59
From: sibeen
ID: 665161
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

Anyone who has ever spent any time in Frankfurt in winter, and I have, would realise that anything that would grow there would grow anywhere.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:51:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665162
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

not even bothering opening a youtube clip.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:51:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 665163
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

black wattles are buggered then.

;-)

You are a fuckhead if that is your stance on these issues.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:51:37
From: party_pants
ID: 665164
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

For a species once regard as extinct for near on 200 million years, an upgrade to critically endangered is quite a step forward.

No

Yes.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:52:08
From: furious
ID: 665166
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Well if it is a tree growing it would be boring…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:52:38
From: sibeen
ID: 665167
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


JudgeMental said:

only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

black wattles are buggered then.

;-)

You are a fuckhead if that is your stance on these issues.

I accidentally clicked on a roughy post. I’ll be way more careful from now on.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:52:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 665168
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

Other countries:

Royal Botanic Gardens Kew (London, UK)
Royal Botanic Gardens Edinburgh (Scotland)
Royal Botanic Gardens Glasnevin (Dublin, Ireland)
Belgium National Botanic Gardens (Brussels, Belgium)
Hortus Botanicus (Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
Vienna Botanic Gardens (Vienna, Austria)
Frankfurt Pamengarten (Frankfurt, Germany)
Disneyland Tokyo (Japan)
Taiwan National Museum (Taipei, Taiwan)
Kingsbrae Garden (St Andrews, NB, Canada)

http://www.wollemipine.com/faq.php

Anyone who has ever spent any time in Frankfurt in winter, and I have, would realise that anything that would grow there would grow anywhere.

Yes but for how long, is the interesting part.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:53:36
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665169
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

i’ve been to frankfurt too. went to the zoo. and ate at the train station. sausages, mash and sauerkraut.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:53:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 665170
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


not even bothering opening a youtube clip.

seriously.. yo

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:54:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 665171
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

For a species once regard as extinct for near on 200 million years, an upgrade to critically endangered is quite a step forward.

No

Yes.


no

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:54:33
From: Michael V
ID: 665172
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i’ve been to frankfurt too. went to the zoo. and ate at the train station. sausages, mash and sauerkraut.
Sounds like a good German meal.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:55:13
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665173
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

it was. filling, tasty and cheap.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:55:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 665174
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • not even bothering opening a youtube clip.

Well if it is a tree growing it would be boring…

sleepy time time all the time.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:55:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 665175
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • not even bothering opening a youtube clip.

Well if it is a tree growing it would be boring…

sleepy time time all the time.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:55:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 665176
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

sibeen said:


roughbarked said:

JudgeMental said:

only after living for a hundred or so years can a plant be said to have survived…

black wattles are buggered then.

;-)

You are a fuckhead if that is your stance on these issues.

I accidentally clicked on a roughy post. I’ll be way more careful from now on.

madness

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:56:01
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665177
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

getting a bit click happy there roughie.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:56:20
From: furious
ID: 665178
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

I am sure that roughbarked can prove that it wasn’t any of those things…

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:56:54
From: sibeen
ID: 665179
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i’ve been to frankfurt too. went to the zoo. and ate at the train station. sausages, mash and sauerkraut.

I spent the vast majority of the time in Saxonhausen (sp) when I wasn’t working. 200 odd pubs in an area of less that 2 square km. There used to be a pub there, late 90s, the walkabout; they had matchbook matches with a roo on the front cover and underneath “last pub for 1.5 metres”, which was pretty close :)

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:57:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 665180
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


getting a bit click happy there roughie.

I’m happy to please the click ready

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:57:29
From: party_pants
ID: 665181
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


party_pants said:

roughbarked said:

No

Yes.


no

yes

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:58:12
From: furious
ID: 665182
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

You went all that way to go to an Aussie themed pub?

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:59:18
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665183
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

it was the only one that had Guinness.

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Date: 22/01/2015 22:59:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 665184
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

party_pants said:


roughbarked said:

party_pants said:

Yes.


no

yes

Chilli pants

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:00:52
From: sibeen
ID: 665185
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • There used to be a pub there, late 90s, the walkabout

You went all that way to go to an Aussie themed pub?

I had one beer in there for a laugh. Didn’t sell Guinness, or any other forms of stout, so I left.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:00:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 665186
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


it was the only one that had Guinness.

There\ is a reason for a sentence?

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:01:02
From: Michael V
ID: 665187
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:01:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 665188
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

and what is it supposed to tell me?

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:02:17
From: Michael V
ID: 665189
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

sibeen said:


JudgeMental said:

i’ve been to frankfurt too. went to the zoo. and ate at the train station. sausages, mash and sauerkraut.

I spent the vast majority of the time in Saxonhausen (sp) when I wasn’t working. 200 odd pubs in an area of less that 2 square km. There used to be a pub there, late 90s, the walkabout; they had matchbook matches with a roo on the front cover and underneath “last pub for 1.5 metres”, which was pretty close :)

Heh!

Good one.

:)

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:03:50
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 665192
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

just make sure the topography is right…

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:05:38
From: Michael V
ID: 665195
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


Michael V said:

http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

and what is it supposed to tell me?

It’s for everyone. It’s a good precis of their understandings, and of some of the science done on the Wollemi Pine.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:05:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 665196
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

stuyoI knew thAQT.u.. but mpy_seahorse said:


Michael V said:

http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

just make sure the topography is right…

it won’t help YOU BUT i KNEW THAT

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:05:43
From: furious
ID: 665197
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Chuckled…

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:06:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 665198
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Michael V said:


roughbarked said:

Michael V said:

http://www.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/plant_info/wollemi_pine/growing_it

and what is it supposed to tell me?

It’s for everyone. It’s a good precis of their understandings, and of some of the science done on the Wollemi Pine.

IT DOESN’T MATTER.. THIS VARIES WITHIN INCHES IN ANYONE’S YARD.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:07:34
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665201
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

you realise topologically speaking flat ground is the same as mountainous ground. as long as there are no holes in one and not the other.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:07:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 665202
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • just make sure the topography is right…

Chuckled…

i HEARD YOU

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:08:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 665203
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


you realise topologically speaking flat ground is the same as mountainous ground. as long as there are no holes in one and not the other.

oH JUST FUCK OFF.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:09:04
From: furious
ID: 665206
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

I think your throttle is jammed…

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:09:29
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 665207
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

why does Gardening Australia say “The wollemi pine will be a terrific plant for the home garden.”

afaik they had no troubles growing 7 of them in hobart

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:10:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 665209
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

furious said:

  • i HEARD YOU

I think your throttle is jammed…

AND YOU THINK YOURS ISN’T?

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:10:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 665210
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

stumpy_seahorse said:


why does Gardening Australia say “The wollemi pine will be a terrific plant for the home garden.”

afaik they had no troubles growing 7 of them in hobart

bECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:10:59
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665211
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

you misheard, they said it would be a triffid plant for the home garden.

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:11:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 665213
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


you misheard, they said it would be a triffid plant for the home garden.

nOT CORRECT

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:11:58
From: furious
ID: 665214
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

I think that my ratio of capital to lowercase letters is of the regulation level…

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:13:23
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 665217
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

roughbarked said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

why does Gardening Australia say “The wollemi pine will be a terrific plant for the home garden.”

afaik they had no troubles growing 7 of them in hobart

bECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU

ex’s mother was the horticulturist who imported them, 6 down towards Sarah’s Mum’s place, one in her own backyard (where I lived…)

I even watered it on many occasion after a few too many… seemed to be doing quite well

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Date: 22/01/2015 23:48:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 665259
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

stumpy_seahorse said:


roughbarked said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

why does Gardening Australia say “The wollemi pine will be a terrific plant for the home garden.”

afaik they had no troubles growing 7 of them in hobart

bECAUSE THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU

ex’s mother was the horticulturist who imported them, 6 down towards Sarah’s Mum’s place, one in her own backyard (where I lived…)

I even watered it on many occasion after a few too many… seemed to be doing quite well


keep on keeping on.

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:08:18
From: kii
ID: 665267
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Today’s forecast:
http://www.wunderground.com/US/NM/411.html?MR=1

Me in my new red dressing gown out in the snow flurries:

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:10:09
From: kii
ID: 665268
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Well…um…oops :P

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:12:30
From: sibeen
ID: 665270
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

Nah, it’s OK, kii, the Wollemi Pine would probably grow at your place.

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:14:20
From: kii
ID: 665272
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

sibeen said:


Nah, it’s OK, kii, the Wollemi Pine would probably grow at your place.

This thread went a bit…um…off the rails?

I know one of the NP guys who has been to the site. I think he was blindfolded – or maybe he was pulling my leg?

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:17:04
From: sibeen
ID: 665274
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

kii said:

This thread went a bit…um…off the rails?

Not really. I’m fairly certain that if you avoided the rants of one particular poster it all made sense.

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:19:31
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665275
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

hey!!!! i thought i was sensible.

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:21:03
From: kii
ID: 665277
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


hey!!!! i thought i was sensible.

Well, if eating popcorn when you don’t like popcorn is sensible……

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:23:04
From: JudgeMental
ID: 665278
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

i used it to block my ears so i wouldn’t see the tripe being posted.

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Date: 23/01/2015 00:25:20
From: sibeen
ID: 665280
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


hey!!!! i thought i was sensible.

You were being very, very silly.

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Date: 23/01/2015 02:09:25
From: roughbarked
ID: 665288
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

kii said:


sibeen said:

Nah, it’s OK, kii, the Wollemi Pine would probably grow at your place.

This thread went a bit…um…off the rails?

I know one of the NP guys who has been to the site. I think he was blindfolded – or maybe he was pulling my leg?


How could he tell?

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Date: 23/01/2015 02:09:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 665289
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

sibeen said:


kii said:

This thread went a bit…um…off the rails?

Not really. I’m fairly certain that if you avoided the rants of one particular poster it all made sense.

so we
don’t listen to you then?

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Date: 23/01/2015 02:10:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 665290
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


hey!!!! i thought i was sensible.

you didn’t

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Date: 23/01/2015 02:10:51
From: roughbarked
ID: 665291
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

JudgeMental said:


i used it to block my ears so i wouldn’t see the tripe being posted.

haha

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Date: 23/01/2015 12:47:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 665456
Subject: re: Wollemi Pine faces extinction

They are leaving nothing to chance

But again if they did.. what could be wrong with that?

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