Date: 15/02/2015 14:56:17
From: Kingy
ID: 677601
Subject: Ooparts

An Oopart (out of place artifact) is a term applied to dozens of prehistoric objects found in various places around the world that, given their level of technology, are completely at odds with their determined age based on physical, chemical, and/or geological evidence. Ooparts often are frustrating to conventional scientists and a delight to adventurous investigators and individuals interested in alternative scientific theories.

In 1991, the appearance of extremely tiny, coil-shaped artifacts found near the banks of Russia’s Kozhim, Narada, and Balbanyu rivers brought about a debate that has continued to this day. These mysterious and minuscule structures suggest that there may have been a culture capable of developing nanotechnology 300,000 years ago.

http://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/ancient-nanostructures-found-ural-mountains-are-out-place-and-time-002046

How do you explain these things?

All I can come up with is:

1) Article is mistaken/wrong.
2) Researcher is mistaken/wrong.
3) Ancient smart humans.
4) Aliens.

Any ideas?

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:11:06
From: Bubblecar
ID: 677603
Subject: re: Ooparts

Seem to be thin wire wrapped around a core, which should be simple enough to make for a technology capable of making wire, which is well known from ancient times.

Wikipedia:

In antiquity, jewellery often contains, in the form of chains and applied decoration, large amounts of wire that is accurately made and which must have been produced by some efficient, if not technically advanced, means. In some cases, strips cut from metal sheet were made into wire by pulling them through perforations in stone beads. This causes the strips to fold round on themselves to form thin tubes. This strip drawing technique was in use in Egypt by the 2nd Dynasty. From the middle of the 2nd millennium BC most of the gold wires in jewellery are characterised by seam lines that follow a spiral path along the wire. Such twisted strips can be converted into solid round wires by rolling them between flat surfaces or the strip wire drawing method. The strip twist wire manufacturing method was superseded by drawing in the ancient Old World sometime between about the 8th and 10th centuries AD. There is some evidence for the use of drawing further East prior to this period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire#History.

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:15:09
From: sibeen
ID: 677604
Subject: re: Ooparts

Reading the original ‘article’ one of the senior ‘researchers’ was Dr. E.W. Matvejeva.

Doing a google search on this individual basically references the original story…and nothing else.

If I was a suspicious person I’d suspect he / she has been made up.

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:16:26
From: Bubblecar
ID: 677605
Subject: re: Ooparts

sibeen said:


Reading the original ‘article’ one of the senior ‘researchers’ was Dr. E.W. Matvejeva.

Doing a google search on this individual basically references the original story…and nothing else.

If I was a suspicious person I’d suspect he / she has been made up.

A brief Google didn’t reveal any mention of this stuff outside of “dubious” sites. Mind you, it was a very brief Google :)

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:17:32
From: Bubblecar
ID: 677606
Subject: re: Ooparts

FWIW, here’s Wiki on Ooparts:

The term “out-of-place artifact” is rarely used by historians or scientists. Its use is largely confined to cryptozoologists, proponents of ancient astronaut theories, Young Earth creationists, and paranormal enthusiasts. The term is used to describe a wide variety of objects, from anomalies studied by mainstream science and pseudoarchaeology far outside the mainstream to objects that have been shown to be hoaxes or to have mundane explanations.

Critics argue that most purported OOPArts which are not hoaxes are the result of mistaken interpretation, wishful thinking, or a mistaken belief that a particular culture couldn’t have created an artifact or technology due to a lack of knowledge or materials. Supporters regard OOPArts as evidence that mainstream science is overlooking huge areas of knowledge, either willfully or through ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact#Unusual_artifacts

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:22:20
From: Tamb
ID: 677610
Subject: re: Ooparts

Bubblecar said:


FWIW, here’s Wiki on Ooparts:

The term “out-of-place artifact” is rarely used by historians or scientists. Its use is largely confined to cryptozoologists, proponents of ancient astronaut theories, Young Earth creationists, and paranormal enthusiasts. The term is used to describe a wide variety of objects, from anomalies studied by mainstream science and pseudoarchaeology far outside the mainstream to objects that have been shown to be hoaxes or to have mundane explanations.

Critics argue that most purported OOPArts which are not hoaxes are the result of mistaken interpretation, wishful thinking, or a mistaken belief that a particular culture couldn’t have created an artifact or technology due to a lack of knowledge or materials. Supporters regard OOPArts as evidence that mainstream science is overlooking huge areas of knowledge, either willfully or through ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-place_artifact#Unusual_artifacts

Just because ancient people were not technologically advanced doesn’t mean they weren’t smart.
They would have seen a problem & worked out a solution using the best of their technology.

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:24:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 677612
Subject: re: Ooparts

needed no smarts. Plants showed these things.

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Date: 15/02/2015 15:46:40
From: Teleost
ID: 677645
Subject: re: Ooparts

I can’t find a single reputable journal reference to this. The article seems to have be repeated verbatim at a few sites, most involved with UFOS, the wisdom of the ANCIENTS etc.

I’m going with hoax.

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:05:23
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 677648
Subject: re: Ooparts

bit toasty up the road today…

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:06:42
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 677649
Subject: re: Ooparts

sorry, fred wong

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:25:27
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 677653
Subject: re: Ooparts

Teleost said:


I can’t find a single reputable journal reference to this. The article seems to have be repeated verbatim at a few sites, most involved with UFOS, the wisdom of the ANCIENTS etc.

I’m going with hoax.

I did some “research” on a similar thing some time ago and came to the same conclusion.

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:31:15
From: Kingy
ID: 677656
Subject: re: Ooparts

I’ve replied to the article. I’ll see what responses I get.

Also did a reverse image search on the pics, but didn’t come up with anything useful.

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:32:21
From: Boris
ID: 677657
Subject: re: Ooparts

Apparently the rasberries are from a different plant altoghether, so I needn’t worry

yes, a raspberry plant.

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Date: 15/02/2015 16:42:33
From: Boris
ID: 677663
Subject: re: Ooparts

there is some quite dubious, but fun, stuff that comes out of the old soviet bloc

Here

:-)

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Date: 15/02/2015 19:58:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 677767
Subject: re: Ooparts

oomparts

oomparts

oompartydoo

I’ve got some oomparts, oompartydoo

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Date: 15/02/2015 21:26:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 677794
Subject: re: Ooparts

Kingy said:

How do you explain these things?

People making stuff up.

An ancient technological civilisation isn’t impossible, but on the available evidence the PMSU hypothesis seems much more likely.

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Date: 16/02/2015 03:23:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 677861
Subject: re: Ooparts

Plants could have and have done, make parts similar. However at the time suggested, humans were incapable of replicating them.

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