I was reading the topic on Ooparts and was looking at various ones on Wikipedia, some are claimed to be alien objects. Could you identify an object as not being manufactured/originating on Earth and if so how ?
Look for manufacturers markings esp made in China,Japan etc
Unless there were elements involved that were in the ‘island of stability’ I doubt you could tell any difference.
You could probably use trace elements and various radioactive isotopes to determine that the metal was “unusual”, but I doubt there would be a way you could definitively say it was of extra terrestrial in nature.
You could possibly tell if a metal were forged in zero G by the crystalline structure, but that would be as close as you’d get.
Cymek said:
I was reading the topic on Ooparts and was looking at various ones on Wikipedia, some are claimed to be alien objects. Could you identify an object as not being manufactured/originating on Earth and if so how ?
it could likely come down the technology used to smelt, cast or weld the material
sibeen said:
Unless there were elements involved that were in the ‘island of stability’ I doubt you could tell any difference.
Thats the sort of thing I was thinking about, they would have to use the same elements as us perhaps just in different ratios. Nanoscale engineering beyond what we can do might be an example
I would think something like this to “fingerprint” the material but it would only then be able to tell you where it wasn’t from and not necessarily where it was from…
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operations
usually a tiny object
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
Like .22 calibre?
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Witty Rejoinder said:
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
!http://images.radiopaedia.org/images/736/4db078f648be4a07c47ab2b0dee3e1_big_gallery.jpg
I swear I fell… it was a one in a million
poikilotherm said:
What the fork?
Witty Rejoinder said:
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
!http://images.radiopaedia.org/images/736/4db078f648be4a07c47ab2b0dee3e1_big_gallery.jpg
An even less subtle one
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
Oo…a Maccona coffee jar!
bob(from black rock) said:
Look for manufacturers markings esp made in China,Japan etc
Yep, the “Made in Proxima Centuri” stamp gives it away every time.
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:What the fork?
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
!http://images.radiopaedia.org/images/736/4db078f648be4a07c47ab2b0dee3e1_big_gallery.jpg
kii said:
poikilotherm said:
Witty Rejoinder said:It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
Oo…a Maccona coffee jar!
coffee enemas have come a long way since then…
stumpy_seahorse said:
kii said:
poikilotherm said:Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
Oo…a Maccona coffee jar!
coffee enemas have come a long way since then…
Pods are all the rage at the moment
is that a jelly fish inside the jar?
Self-healing cutting mats are so fricking alien…sometimes I just like to cut it to watch it do its thing.
Arts said:
is that a jelly fish inside the jar?
They were metal pins of unknown significance…
poikilotherm said:
How on earth?
Michael V said:
poikilotherm said:What the fork?Some times, they ain’t too subtle either
!http://images.radiopaedia.org/images/736/4db078f648be4a07c47ab2b0dee3e1_big_gallery.jpg
Sorry to trash the thread…but did someone say fork?!http://www.canberratimes.com.au/content/dam/images/2/s/5/x/f/image.related.articleLeadwide.620×349.2s5w2.png/1386629508373.jpg
Witty Rejoinder said:
wookiemeister said:
one thing that pops up periodically is foreign matter lodged in people found during operationsusually a tiny object
It’s how the Illuminati keep track of people.
> Could you identify an object as not being manufactured/originating on Earth and if so how ?
Yes, easily, by the isotope ratios. These don’t need to be radioactive. For a kiddie-style example, oxygen has three stable isotopes, oxygen-16, oxygen-17 and oxygen-18, and the ratio of these is widely used to determine the extraterrestrial origins meteorites.
mollwollfumble said:
> Could you identify an object as not being manufactured/originating on Earth and if so how ?Yes, easily, by the isotope ratios. These don’t need to be radioactive. For a kiddie-style example, oxygen has three stable isotopes, oxygen-16, oxygen-17 and oxygen-18, and the ratio of these is widely used to determine the extraterrestrial origins meteorites.
That tells you where the raw material came from, but not where it was manufactured.
mollwollfumble said:
> Could you identify an object as not being manufactured/originating on Earth and if so how ?Yes, easily, by the isotope ratios. These don’t need to be radioactive. For a kiddie-style example, oxygen has three stable isotopes, oxygen-16, oxygen-17 and oxygen-18, and the ratio of these is widely used to determine the extraterrestrial origins meteorites.
To continue, for a metal or crystal it’s standard technique to look at the shape, chemistry, and isotope ratios of small inclusions in the metal or crystal to determine the origins, both on Earth and outside it. A jeweller will do it for instance to determine in which country a gemstone has been mined, a metallurgist will do it to determine both the source of ore and the country where the metal was cast. These techniques work equally well with inclusions within meteorite grains, and would work for alien artifacts. For instance, there are exceedingly few objects on Earth that originated outside the solar system, including some nanodiamonds in meteorites and micron-sized dust grains collected by the Stardust spacecraft, but it is easy to tell from inclusions that these micro- and nano-sized objects were formed outside the solar system.
aliens could have refining techniques that preclude inclusions. which would actually be a better indication of alien artefact than not.
Scan for alien tech