Date: 23/02/2015 15:54:01
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 682193
Subject: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

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Date: 23/02/2015 15:59:24
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682197
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

bob(from black rock) said:

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:01:07
From: Tamb
ID: 682200
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:


bob(from black rock) said:

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.


Or they will be banned by increasingly paranoid governments.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:04:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682201
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:


bob(from black rock) said:

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

it will also most likely utilise augmented reality.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:20:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682206
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Tamb said:


diddly-squat said:

bob(from black rock) said:

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.


Or they will be banned by increasingly paranoid governments.

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:23:48
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682207
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


Tamb said:

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.


Or they will be banned by increasingly paranoid governments.

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

which don’t have any CIA NSA FBI back doors built in

runs away

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:25:58
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682209
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


Tamb said:

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.


Or they will be banned by increasingly paranoid governments.

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:29:10
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682213
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Tamb said:

Or they will be banned by increasingly paranoid governments.

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:31:20
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682215
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


diddly-squat said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

that can playback media directly into your mind

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:33:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682216
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

and be able to do Google searches way more quickly with a direct quantum computer interface into the human mind

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:33:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682217
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

that can playback media directly into your mind

Batteries will last a month

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:35:38
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682218
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


diddly-squat said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

How about 3D printed Quantum Computers smaller than a watch

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

I doubt we will get to computers that will ‘read our minds’ any time soon and I’m not sure the construction method is all that important… but I can see augmented reality being used to collaboratively visualise and manipulate content.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:36:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682219
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

the operating system will identify any operating system or application bug and fix it immediately

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:37:08
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682221
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

technology still needs to be large enough to be practically usable… But I think what you’ll see is a central device (probably in the format of a phone type thing) that connects to a series of other devices we have placed at workstations in the office or home.

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

I doubt we will get to computers that will ‘read our minds’ any time soon and I’m not sure the construction method is all that important… but I can see augmented reality being used to collaboratively visualise and manipulate content.

Twenty years is a long time

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:38:01
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682222
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

There will be no such thing a a slow computer or device

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:41:27
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682224
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


diddly-squat said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

a holographic screen that floats in front of you while you move around and a 3D printed computer that can read your thoughts so on one has to touch type anymore

I doubt we will get to computers that will ‘read our minds’ any time soon and I’m not sure the construction method is all that important… but I can see augmented reality being used to collaboratively visualise and manipulate content.

Twenty years is a long time

sure… but personally, I don’t see telepathy being a very practical way to interact with a computer… voice recognition or augmented reality controls sure… but thought control, I’m just not sure how that would work…

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:41:40
From: Tamb
ID: 682225
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


the operating system will identify any operating system or application bug and fix it immediately


That will never happen. It will prolly be Win 8.2

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:50:59
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682231
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


the operating system will identify any operating system or application bug and fix it immediately

the problem here is the ‘reasoning’ that particular step requires… software bugs generally manifest in two ways…

  1. as functional bugs that result in an error due to external inputs or interactions between hardware.
  2. as logic bugs that result in an error in the how the code is supposed to work

The first set of bugs are easy to fix and every software company has testers specifically tasked to find out what happens when you open an instance of Win Calculator while you are performing a particular function in a program – or when a user pushes the Z, the 7 and the F11 key at the same time…

The second set of bugs are harder to find and fix as they generally relate to a a failure in the inherent logic of the code. That is, the code compiles, it’s just it doesn’t do exactly what it’s supposed to do.

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:58:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682232
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

computers will take over and humans will be fed small biscuits to keep them alive whilst facing the endless summer of surfing, having a good time and getting high with your friends

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Date: 23/02/2015 16:59:45
From: Tamb
ID: 682233
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

wookiemeister said:


computers will take over and humans will be fed small biscuits to keep them alive whilst facing the endless summer of surfing, having a good time and getting high with your friends

Small biscuits of Soylent Green.

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:04:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682235
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

diddly-squat said:

I doubt we will get to computers that will ‘read our minds’ any time soon and I’m not sure the construction method is all that important… but I can see augmented reality being used to collaboratively visualise and manipulate content.

Twenty years is a long time

sure… but personally, I don’t see telepathy being a very practical way to interact with a computer… voice recognition or augmented reality controls sure… but thought control, I’m just not sure how that would work…

here are some articles that be sway your mind

Brain–computer interface

Thought Controlled Computing is Here -Cause/Action:

6 Electronic Devices You Can Control with Your Thoughts

Disruptions: Brain Computer Interfaces Inch Closer to Mainstream

EPOC+Scientific contextual EEG

just google” thought control computers”

Another ton of apps coming to your smart phone soon

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:06:54
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682236
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

wookiemeister said:


computers will take over and humans will be fed small biscuits to keep them alive whilst facing the endless summer of surfing, having a good time and getting high with your friends

DNA filtering while get rid of criminals, murderers, Human Rights criminals and anyone like Tony Abbott

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:08:48
From: esselte
ID: 682237
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

diddly-squat said:

I think in 20 years personal hand held devices will be viewed as quaint.

http://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-propose-cortical-modem-implant-to-give-you-terminator-vision/

“Forget HoloLens, forget smart glasses and forget augmented reality — scientists have proposed a “cortical modem” that plugs into your DNA and your visual cortex to cure sight loss and show a heads-up display in front of your very eyes.

“The cortical modem concept is the brainchild of DARPA, the US Defense Research Projects Agency. Originally founded in 1958 in response to the launch of Sputnik, DARPA is the US military’s research and development agency. It’s perhaps best known outside of military circles for the development of ARPANET, an early packet switching network that formed a precursor to the Internet.

“The cortical modem concept was presented by DARPA’s Phillip Alvelda at a recent pow-wow in Silicon Valley, at which innovators, investors and other big brains were introduced to the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), a blue-sky-thinking initiative announced last year….

“The cortical modem is rooted in the field of optogenetics, which involves studying and even controlling specified cells within living tissue by shining light on them. Light-responsive proteins can be added to the brains of living beings, allowing scientists to turn neurons on or off with never-before-seen precision. They can then study neurological activity — at the same event presenting real-time visual maps of mouse thoughts — and potentially even control that activity, perhaps one day correcting neurological disorders.”

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:09:27
From: esselte
ID: 682238
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Soz… fixed formatting

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

I think in 20 years personal hand held devices will be viewed as quaint.

http://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-propose-cortical-modem-implant-to-give-you-terminator-vision/

“Forget HoloLens, forget smart glasses and forget augmented reality — scientists have proposed a “cortical modem” that plugs into your DNA and your visual cortex to cure sight loss and show a heads-up display in front of your very eyes.

“The cortical modem concept is the brainchild of DARPA, the US Defense Research Projects Agency. Originally founded in 1958 in response to the launch of Sputnik, DARPA is the US military’s research and development agency. It’s perhaps best known outside of military circles for the development of ARPANET, an early packet switching network that formed a precursor to the Internet.

“The cortical modem concept was presented by DARPA’s Phillip Alvelda at a recent pow-wow in Silicon Valley, at which innovators, investors and other big brains were introduced to the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), a blue-sky-thinking initiative announced last year….

“The cortical modem is rooted in the field of optogenetics, which involves studying and even controlling specified cells within living tissue by shining light on them. Light-responsive proteins can be added to the brains of living beings, allowing scientists to turn neurons on or off with never-before-seen precision. They can then study neurological activity — at the same event presenting real-time visual maps of mouse thoughts — and potentially even control that activity, perhaps one day correcting neurological disorders.”

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:39:18
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682254
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

esselte said:


Soz… fixed formatting

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

I think in 20 years personal hand held devices will be viewed as quaint.

http://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-propose-cortical-modem-implant-to-give-you-terminator-vision/

“Forget HoloLens, forget smart glasses and forget augmented reality — scientists have proposed a “cortical modem” that plugs into your DNA and your visual cortex to cure sight loss and show a heads-up display in front of your very eyes.

“The cortical modem concept is the brainchild of DARPA, the US Defense Research Projects Agency. Originally founded in 1958 in response to the launch of Sputnik, DARPA is the US military’s research and development agency. It’s perhaps best known outside of military circles for the development of ARPANET, an early packet switching network that formed a precursor to the Internet.

“The cortical modem concept was presented by DARPA’s Phillip Alvelda at a recent pow-wow in Silicon Valley, at which innovators, investors and other big brains were introduced to the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), a blue-sky-thinking initiative announced last year….

“The cortical modem is rooted in the field of optogenetics, which involves studying and even controlling specified cells within living tissue by shining light on them. Light-responsive proteins can be added to the brains of living beings, allowing scientists to turn neurons on or off with never-before-seen precision. They can then study neurological activity — at the same event presenting real-time visual maps of mouse thoughts — and potentially even control that activity, perhaps one day correcting neurological disorders.”

They will always be teenage hackers, and hackers from North Korea, and hackers from Russia and hackers from Syria, China, and anywhere else large numbers of hackers congregate and flock to

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Date: 23/02/2015 17:47:16
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682260
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

esselte said:


Soz… fixed formatting

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

I think in 20 years personal hand held devices will be viewed as quaint.

http://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-propose-cortical-modem-implant-to-give-you-terminator-vision/

“Forget HoloLens, forget smart glasses and forget augmented reality — scientists have proposed a “cortical modem” that plugs into your DNA and your visual cortex to cure sight loss and show a heads-up display in front of your very eyes.

“The cortical modem concept is the brainchild of DARPA, the US Defense Research Projects Agency. Originally founded in 1958 in response to the launch of Sputnik, DARPA is the US military’s research and development agency. It’s perhaps best known outside of military circles for the development of ARPANET, an early packet switching network that formed a precursor to the Internet.

“The cortical modem concept was presented by DARPA’s Phillip Alvelda at a recent pow-wow in Silicon Valley, at which innovators, investors and other big brains were introduced to the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), a blue-sky-thinking initiative announced last year….

“The cortical modem is rooted in the field of optogenetics, which involves studying and even controlling specified cells within living tissue by shining light on them. Light-responsive proteins can be added to the brains of living beings, allowing scientists to turn neurons on or off with never-before-seen precision. They can then study neurological activity — at the same event presenting real-time visual maps of mouse thoughts — and potentially even control that activity, perhaps one day correcting neurological disorders.”

handheld Devices and desktops will disappear completely as smart phone and computer capability will be implanted into people, they will be very tiny and use hardly any energy

holographic images will disappear and be directly implanted into the brain

Hack proof bio-computers will be quantum devices and wont take any shit from Spy agencies

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:09:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682265
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Bio organic Quantum computers will be able to be used by the medical industry to combat aids and cancer

nano tech droids will be controlled by the Quantum computers to eliminate any diseases

implanted Bio organic Quantum computers will be able to simulate party drugs in peoples minds without anyone actually touching any drug

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:15:44
From: diddly-squat
ID: 682269
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


esselte said:

Soz… fixed formatting

diddly-squat said:

it’s hard to know about things we haven’t even dreamed of yet… but I think what’s clear is that we are headed towards a future where personal hand held devices will cover off most functions. This device will be used for communications, computing, funds transfer, ticketing, audio-visual, etc…. It will be compact, wireless and will have very high specifications by even today’s top end standards.

I think in 20 years personal hand held devices will be viewed as quaint.

http://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-propose-cortical-modem-implant-to-give-you-terminator-vision/

“Forget HoloLens, forget smart glasses and forget augmented reality — scientists have proposed a “cortical modem” that plugs into your DNA and your visual cortex to cure sight loss and show a heads-up display in front of your very eyes.

“The cortical modem concept is the brainchild of DARPA, the US Defense Research Projects Agency. Originally founded in 1958 in response to the launch of Sputnik, DARPA is the US military’s research and development agency. It’s perhaps best known outside of military circles for the development of ARPANET, an early packet switching network that formed a precursor to the Internet.

“The cortical modem concept was presented by DARPA’s Phillip Alvelda at a recent pow-wow in Silicon Valley, at which innovators, investors and other big brains were introduced to the agency’s Biological Technologies Office (BTO), a blue-sky-thinking initiative announced last year….

“The cortical modem is rooted in the field of optogenetics, which involves studying and even controlling specified cells within living tissue by shining light on them. Light-responsive proteins can be added to the brains of living beings, allowing scientists to turn neurons on or off with never-before-seen precision. They can then study neurological activity — at the same event presenting real-time visual maps of mouse thoughts — and potentially even control that activity, perhaps one day correcting neurological disorders.”

handheld Devices and desktops will disappear completely as smart phone and computer capability will be implanted into people, they will be very tiny and use hardly any energy

holographic images will disappear and be directly implanted into the brain

Hack proof bio-computers will be quantum devices and wont take any shit from Spy agencies

I’m sure we’ll see advancements in the capability and pervasiveness of bio-technology but I’m not sure we’ll see hand held devices replaced by implants. There are a couple of reasons for this:

  1. ease of access
  2. issues relating to workplaces mandating use of particular technologies
  3. a general distrust of government and big business
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Date: 23/02/2015 18:19:10
From: Michael V
ID: 682273
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

I see how good these devices are for everyone else, but I struggle to make them work for me. A can’t imagine how difficult it will be in 20 years time.

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:31:10
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 682278
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Extrapolating from the last 20 years over the next 20 years:
- Devices that don’t need to be mobile will have bigger, higher res screens, loads more memory, and will be faster, but otherwise much the same
- Mobile devices will be thinner with higher res screens, but otherwise much the same
- Devices for reading text will be almost as easy to read as a book
- One thing that is just getting started now will become mainstream, but I don’t know what it is.
- That’s all

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:33:49
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 682281
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

- The Internet will still do things like removing line breaks when you don’t want it to.

- Instructions for both hardware and software will be totally on-line, and will be totally useless.

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:55:30
From: buffy
ID: 682285
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

There will need to be an awful lot of expansion of coverage before any of this will be possible. There is quite a large area of Australia that isn’t as quick as the big cities.

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Date: 23/02/2015 18:58:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682286
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

The Rev Dodgson said:


Extrapolating from the last 20 years over the next 20 years:
- Devices that don’t need to be mobile will have bigger, higher res screens, loads more memory, and will be faster, but otherwise much the same
- Mobile devices will be thinner with higher res screens, but otherwise much the same
- Devices for reading text will be almost as easy to read as a book
- One thing that is just getting started now will become mainstream, but I don’t know what it is.
- That’s all

Yep pretty much, the hologram might make some impact.
Basically we havent gone anywhere in the last 20 years.
Basically what we have done is hand over trillions of dollars in the last 20 years to Microsoft and Apple to make computer bling go a bit faster.

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:38:00
From: party_pants
ID: 682342
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

I want a robot with a hand on an extendable arm, delicate and sensitive enough to change a light bulb.

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:41:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682346
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

party_pants said:


I want a robot with a hand on an extendable arm, delicate and sensitive enough to change a light bulb.

i thought you were going to say something else then

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:43:25
From: party_pants
ID: 682349
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

wookiemeister said:


party_pants said:

I want a robot with a hand on an extendable arm, delicate and sensitive enough to change a light bulb.

i thought you were going to say something else then

By 2035 I’ll be in my late 60s/early 70s – I doubt I’d be able to play to a cricket bowling robot capable of 150 km/h.

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:52:20
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682357
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Interestingly out technology becomes so obsolete these days and the disappearance of analogue technology will mean that in millennia from now our technologies and stored digital information will become non-retrievable.

The ancient Egyptian language was decipherable due to analogue languages being accessible to read and then ultimately decoded and understood when the third and identifiable language alluded to what the hieroglyphs meant. Our codes and computer will become non-readable and our technology history could disappear too.

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:55:43
From: Boris
ID: 682361
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

i am not sure that our current storage media will be unreadable in the future. i think it may be hard to do but not impossible. so it will come down to “is it worth it?”

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Date: 23/02/2015 20:58:21
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682366
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


i am not sure that our current storage media will be unreadable in the future. i think it may be hard to do but not impossible. so it will come down to “is it worth it?”

in a thousand plus years time or more?

my pc can’t read some of the programs from xp without compatibility issues, I do not doubt lost pc uncovered in the future in a dig site won’t be readable. an old typewriter however could easily show its functionality when analogue

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:00:35
From: Boris
ID: 682370
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

my pc can’t read some of the programs from xp without compatibility issues,

that is purely a programming issue. the media can be read but not translated.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:02:06
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682373
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


my pc can’t read some of the programs from xp without compatibility issues,

that is purely a programming issue. the media can be read but not translated.

the point is not semantics. I have difficulty believing in 2 k years from now they could read pc program and retrieve data from old pc machines

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:03:11
From: Boris
ID: 682375
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

well, for one thing it is unlikely that any present day media will last that long physically.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:03:42
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682378
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


Boris said:

my pc can’t read some of the programs from xp without compatibility issues,

that is purely a programming issue. the media can be read but not translated.

the point is not semantics. I have difficulty believing in 2 k years from now they could read pc program and retrieve data from old pc machines

if a user cannot see the data then the information is lost or cannot run the programs? seems the same

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:04:03
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682379
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


well, for one thing it is unlikely that any present day media will last that long physically.

exactly

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:06:37
From: Boris
ID: 682383
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

then if the actually media doesn’t exist physically then why worry about whether we can read it?

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:08:49
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682385
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

there will be gaps in our technology history

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:08:58
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682386
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

there will be gaps in our technology history

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:09:37
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682387
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

is the main point being made in the first and initial post

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:11:07
From: Boris
ID: 682388
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

gaps in all aspects of our history will always exist. it doesn’t seem to affect our advancement to much.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:11:11
From: Thomo
ID: 682389
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Just saying what I’ve thought for a while.
Computer screens replaced by a set of glasses or a hemet similar to pilots hemet note (intermediate step google maps) then a non helmet/ glasses interface

Brett

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:11:18
From: sibeen
ID: 682390
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

If the media is readable they’ll be able to work out what it means in the future.

It’s just binary, and with the amount of information in even a reasonably small document it will be a doddle.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:12:37
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682392
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

a doddle?

what’s a doddle?

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:12:39
From: Boris
ID: 682393
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

yes sibeen, it will be a, relatively, easy code to break because of the repetition.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:13:53
From: sibeen
ID: 682395
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


a doddle?

what’s a doddle?

Doddle = a walk in the park

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:15:47
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682399
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


gaps in all aspects of our history will always exist. it doesn’t seem to affect our advancement to much.

regardless I am of the view there will be digital gaps in history. time will tell though

my point was off topic and not relevant to advancements or the hindrance of them per se’. thought the topic was semi-related to a discussion that took place here is the house yesterday

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:17:29
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682401
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


Interestingly out technology becomes so obsolete these days and the disappearance of analogue technology will mean that in millennia from now our technologies and stored digital information will become non-retrievable.

The ancient Egyptian language was decipherable due to analogue languages being accessible to read and then ultimately decoded and understood when the third and identifiable language alluded to what the hieroglyphs meant. Our codes and computer will become non-readable and our technology history could disappear too.

Maybe digital with evolve into a new form of analogue

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:19:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682405
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Heaven and Earth, Microsoft and Apple shall pass away but it is written that Word shall not pass away till the will of God is accomplished.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:20:03
From: monkey skipper
ID: 682408
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_dark_age

this is what label the other person mentioned in the discussion.

“digital dark ages”

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:21:19
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682410
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Peak Warming Man said:


Heaven and Earth, Microsoft and Apple shall pass away but it is written that Word shall not pass away till the will of God is accomplished.

wash your mouth out infidel

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:22:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682411
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


Boris said:

well, for one thing it is unlikely that any present day media will last that long physically.

exactly

Didn’t someone find a way to store a massive amount of information in a diamond

that would last a while

Ill put all of music, photos and movies on one

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:22:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682412
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

a cube of glass might be a good storage median

diamond is better though

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:23:14
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682413
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

Boris said:

well, for one thing it is unlikely that any present day media will last that long physically.

exactly

Didn’t someone find a way to store a massive amount of information in a diamond

that would last a while

Ill put all of music, photos and movies on one

Dont forget your Neil records.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:24:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682415
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

didn’t a physicist find a way to store information in one atomic particle?

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:25:02
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682416
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


a cube of glass might be a good storage median

diamond is better though


superman’s solace at the North Pole

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:25:44
From: Boris
ID: 682417
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

it isn’t just the longevity of the media but how stable it is to hold onto that information. a HDD might last 1000 years but the info on it be lost due to environmental issues, cosmic rays for a start.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:27:57
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682420
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


it isn’t just the longevity of the media but how stable it is to hold onto that information. a HDD might last 1000 years but the info on it be lost due to environmental issues, cosmic rays for a start.

or radioisotope contamination

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:28:21
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682421
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


it isn’t just the longevity of the media but how stable it is to hold onto that information. a HDD might last 1000 years but the info on it be lost due to environmental issues, cosmic rays for a start.

But as you said earlier WTF wants the information anyway.
All the information on floppy disks is gone and no one cares because allthat matters has been transferred to new media anyway, it’s all in the cloud now man, Encarta’s in the cloud man.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:30:02
From: Boris
ID: 682424
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

there will still be stuff that isn’t copied or is lost in some way, fire, earthquake, asteroid impact and so on.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:31:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 682425
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Boris said:


there will still be stuff that isn’t copied or is lost in some way, fire, earthquake, asteroid impact and so on.

virus and held to ransome

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:32:47
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682427
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


there will be gaps in our technology history

a small percentage

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:33:15
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682428
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Minesweeper’s in the cloud, it’s in the cloud man.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:34:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682429
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Thomo said:


Just saying what I’ve thought for a while.
Computer screens replaced by a set of glasses or a hemet similar to pilots hemet note (intermediate step google maps) then a non helmet/ glasses interface

Brett

there are google glasses now

and VR technology is being miniaturized

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:35:13
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682430
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

monkey skipper said:


a doddle?

what’s a doddle?

Drawings

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:36:42
From: Boris
ID: 682432
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

that’s a doodle.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:38:22
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 682434
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

A local scientist, a local Tasmanian scientist predicted that we’d all be rooned and that our knowlege would be lost and that we’d all be rooned.
He wrote it in his semenal work The Death of Clouds.
He also wrote in it that we’d all be rooned.

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:43:43
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 682438
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Peak Warming Man said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

monkey skipper said:

exactly

Didn’t someone find a way to store a massive amount of information in a diamond

that would last a while

Ill put all of music, photos and movies on one

Dont forget your Neil records.

I have all of Pink Floyd’s albums on Vinyl

No Neil

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:44:09
From: Thomo
ID: 682440
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Said Hanrahan
Love Patterson

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Date: 23/02/2015 21:45:00
From: Michael V
ID: 682442
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

CrazyNeutrino said:


monkey skipper said:

a doddle?

what’s a doddle?

Drawings

Doodle, dude.

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Date: 24/02/2015 11:34:57
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 682700
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

Thesaurus≠Antonyms↔Related Words≡SynonymsLegend:

Noun 1. doddle – an easy task
↔child’s play, cinch, duck soup, piece of cake, pushover, breeze, walkover, picnic, snap – any undertaking that is easy to do; “marketing this product will be no picnic”

↔Britain, Great Britain, U.K., UK, United Kingdom, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland – a monarchy in northwestern Europe occupying most of the British Isles; divided into England and Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland; `Great Britain’ is often used loosely to refer to the United Kingdom

Based on WordNet 3.0, Farlex clipart collection. © 2003-2012 Princeton University, Farlex Inc.

doddle

noun (Brit. informal) ≡piece of cake, picnic (informal), child’s play (informal), pushover (slang) (informal), no sweat (slang), cinch (slang), cakewalk (informal), money for old rope, bludge (Austral. & N.Z. informal) Running the association should be a doddle.

Collins Thesaurus of the English Language – Complete and Unabridged 2nd Edition. 2002 © HarperCollins Publishers 1995, 2002

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Date: 25/02/2015 06:15:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 683181
Subject: re: What 'pooter developments in next 20 years?

bob(from black rock) said:

20 years ago all the pooter stuff we are using now was not dreampt of by most of us, so what is coming? will we be able to have all of our current pooter power put onto a “chip” and implanted in our brain? and be able to see stuff through our own eyes and in three dimensions, together with a sound track?

I’m out of touch with what science fiction has been saying about this. But one possibility that has been discussed in at least two science fiction books is smart tattoos. You print computer circuits onto the skin so they look like tattoos.

I like the idea of in-depth storage – instead of putting computer circuits on the surface of a chip you put them throughout the volume of a chip – it can be done by growing the chip a layer at a time in a cyclic process. You could theoretically get a storage density thousands to millions of times higher than at present that way – but there is a drawback – it’s not so easy to get the waste heat out.

So, much work on new computers at the moment relates to reducing the amount of heat generated by operation.

Because computer sales profitability goes up as more units are sold, we’re seeing more and more things that have small embedded computer chips. Think of something, anything at all, (eg. pizza box, walking stick, wall tile, burn dressing), and in the next 20 years you’ll be able to find one with fitted with a computer chip.

Because computer core speeds are no longer increasing much we’re seeing more multicore chips that are great for doing multiple tasks at the same time. There will be fewer compute-intensive jobs and more small multiple tasks.

One recent trend is that Intel, which had near zero share of the supercomputer market in 2001, now dominates it. By far the most powerful supercomputer in the world is in China. I expect China’s share to increase.

On the negative side, I don’t know of any information transfer method faster than optic fibre, so chances are that in the next 20 years long distance computer communication, and the internet, will slow right down as it gets more heavily overloaded.

Computer censorship, pop-up ads, trojan horses etc. are going to get worse.

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