Where do jets flying from Perth to Sydney cross the South Australian coast?

http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airlines/route-maps/global/en

Ian said:

Where do jets flying from Perth to Sydney cross the South Australian coast?

Forum put me onto flightradar24.com. It’s brilliant.

They follow standard airways …. And that involves a intersection point above Adelaide

port pirie

stumpy_seahorse said:

port pirie

That is most likely would I could see.

That Qantas page is utterly useless.. for illustration only.. ta anyway

Ian said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

port pirie

That is most likely would I could see.

Na.. not according Awesome One’s site

Ian said:

Ian said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

port pirie

That is most likely would I could see.

Na.. not according Awesome One’s site

i’m pretty sure it’s perth-syd i could see from jamestown, is it further north than pirie? whyalla or port augusta

work out where the great circle goes and it’ll be pretty close to that.

If you go to that Flightradar24 site, and click on the aeroplane icon for QFA576 ( just near the Murray River at Swan Hill) – you’ll see it is a Perth Sydney flight, and the track gives it as flying almost directly over the top of Adelaide on the way over.

ChrispenEvan said:

work out where the great circle goes and it’ll be pretty close to that.

There’s two

Ian said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

port pirie

That is most likely would I could see.

That Qantas page is utterly useless.. for illustration only.. ta anyway

That doesn’t surprise me , it’s qantas

Looks like you have a good ref now.

Flightradar24 shows QFA576 going very close to Adelaide but that doesn’t make sense to me.

There was a large shallow estuary and a little way inland a large town, not a city.

Ian said:

Flightradar24 shows QFA576 going very close to Adelaide but that doesn’t make sense to me.

There was a large shallow estuary and a little way inland a large town, not a city.

Are you trying to retrace the route of a particular flight you were on?

If so I can only suggest looking up and down the coast near Adelaide on GoogleEarth.

party_pants said:

Are you trying to retrace the route of a particular flight you were on?

If so I can only suggest looking up and down the coast near Adelaide on GoogleEarth.

Yes.

That’s whot i doing

Ian said:

Flightradar24 shows QFA576 going very close to Adelaide but that doesn’t make sense to me.

There was a large shallow estuary and a little way inland a large town, not a city.

port wakefield maybe

If you are booked in with luggage but you don’t get to the gate in time, how long do they hold the flights for whilst they broadcasting by name to front up.

AwesomeO said:

If you are booked in with luggage but you don’t get to the gate in time, how long do they hold the flights for whilst they broadcasting by name to front up.

It depends on the airport. Some airports no longer use voice announcements at all.

Tamb said:

AwesomeO said:

If you are booked in with luggage but you don’t get to the gate in time, how long do they hold the flights for whilst they broadcasting by name to front up.

It depends on the airport. Some airports no longer use voice announcements at all.

That sounds counter productive, the luggage now has to come off the plane when an announcement might have woke up the dopy traveller.

stumpy_seahorse said:

Ian said:

Flightradar24 shows QFA576 going very close to Adelaide but that doesn’t make sense to me.

There was a large shallow estuary and a little way inland a large town, not a city.

port wakefield maybe

Yeah thanks.That looks like the best fit.

Tamb said:

If you are booked in with luggage but you don’t get to the gate in time, how long do they hold the flights for whilst they broadcasting by name to front up.

A while I reckon.

There a situations where the first leg of a connecting flight is delayed and they don’t want to have to put you up in a hotel overnight.

Also they don’t want another Lockerbie.

Dropbear said:

They follow standard airways …. And that involves a intersection point above Adelaide

We get all the chemtrails….you don’t think the Bear really moved to Brisbane for work, do you?

Ian got it right – great circle route:

http://www.greatcirclemapper.net/en/great-circle-mapper/route/YSSY-YPPH.html

ahem, boris mentioned great circle.

:-)

Bear was correcter

errr no. it is just luck that the great circle goes over, or near, adelaide. the air routes would follow great circles as they are the shortest distance between to points on a sphere. though i can imagine very short hops not worrying about this too much.

It’s usually the Great Circle Path, or the closest to it via the various available airways, but it an vary depending upon the upper level winds. Sometimes it’s better for the fuel burn to go further south to avoid the big headwinds when heading west or sometimes further north to get better tailwinds to go faster eastbound.

i thought there would be variation to take winds into account.

>sometimes further north to get better tailwinds to go faster eastbound.

Yes. Did the run in about 3hrs 45mins. I understand that going west is sometimes over 5hrs.

there is always about a 50min time difference going from melb to perth than the other way. melb to perth is longer.

Ian said:

Where do jets flying from Perth to Sydney cross the South Australian coast?

No-one has yet mentioned that the route jets take from Perth to Sydney is not the same as the route jets take from Sydney to Perth.

I’ve been looking into air-routes a bit as I don’t want to fly a rocket directly under an aeroplane. I haven’t been looking at Perth-Sydney-Perth but have noticed that flights from Melbourne to Tasmania travel about 10 km west of those from Tasmania to Melbourne. The flights between Melbourne and Launceston follow the same route as between Melbourne and Hobart. Flights between Melbourne and Sydney follow similarly separated routes between northbound and southbound, from memory the southbound planes travel west of the northbound planes. The southern end of the routes between Melbourne-Sydney-Melbourne, Melbourne-Wollongong-Melbourne and Melbourne-Newcastle-Melbourne are the same. Ditto for Melbourne-Bahrain-Melbourne and Melbourne-Madras-Melbourne, the northbound and southbound flight paths are separated and both routes follow the same southern part of the flight paths. Also ditto for Melbourne-Auckland-Melbourne.