Date: 23/03/2015 13:53:56
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 696775
Subject: Philosophy

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

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Date: 23/03/2015 13:57:13
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 696776
Subject: re: Philosophy

bob(from black rock) said:


A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Science is a subset of philosophy. Questions that have an answer (even if we don’t know it at the time of questioning) is “science”. Questions that can’t be answered, are philosophy.

There are some who say that some scientific theories such as String Theory fall outside of science and into philosophy.

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Date: 23/03/2015 13:59:52
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 696778
Subject: re: Philosophy

Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:12:19
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 696779
Subject: re: Philosophy

Peak Warming Man said:


Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

Who said that?

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:15:37
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 696780
Subject: re: Philosophy

bob(from black rock) said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

Who said that?

A lot of people.
The original is ascribed to George Bernard Shaw.

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:18:12
From: sibeen
ID: 696781
Subject: re: Philosophy

Peak Warming Man said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

Who said that?

A lot of people.
The original is ascribed to George Bernard Shaw.

He was probably pissed.

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:19:21
From: Dropbear
ID: 696782
Subject: re: Philosophy

bob(from black rock) said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

Who said that?

PWM

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:20:42
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 696783
Subject: re: Philosophy

Dropbear said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Some men see things as they are and ask why, other men dream things that never were and ask why not.

Who said that?

PWM

GBS looks like the answer

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:23:43
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 696784
Subject: re: Philosophy

Carmen_Sandiego said:


bob(from black rock) said:

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Science is a subset of philosophy. Questions that have an answer (even if we don’t know it at the time of questioning) is “science”. Questions that can’t be answered, are philosophy.

There are some who say that some scientific theories such as String Theory fall outside of science and into philosophy.

I’ve found out recently that pure mathematics is also a subset of philosophy. Just a couple of years ago I was offered the opportunity to do a PhD in philosophy on a pure mathematics topic. None of the mathematicians understood what I was talking about, but a philosopher did.

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:26:14
From: Cymek
ID: 696785
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

bob(from black rock) said:

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Science is a subset of philosophy. Questions that have an answer (even if we don’t know it at the time of questioning) is “science”. Questions that can’t be answered, are philosophy.

There are some who say that some scientific theories such as String Theory fall outside of science and into philosophy.

I’ve found out recently that pure mathematics is also a subset of philosophy. Just a couple of years ago I was offered the opportunity to do a PhD in philosophy on a pure mathematics topic. None of the mathematicians understood what I was talking about, but a philosopher did.

So the idea is philosophy but the mathematics backing it up is science ?

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Date: 23/03/2015 14:28:46
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 696787
Subject: re: Philosophy

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Who said that?

A lot of people.
The original is ascribed to George Bernard Shaw.

He was probably pissed.

Yeah but not as bad as Brendan Behan, a serial pisshead and pest.
We had to study one of his plays at school, man talk about joylessness, poverty, privation and wretchlessdomshipness.

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Date: 23/03/2015 15:52:30
From: Rule 303
ID: 696791
Subject: re: Philosophy

bob(from black rock) said:


A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Do you have a question, Bob?

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Date: 23/03/2015 16:26:25
From: transition
ID: 696804
Subject: re: Philosophy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Popper

“Sir Karl Raimund Popper CH FBA FRS (28 July 1902 – 17 September 1994) was an Austrian-British philosopher and professor. He is generally regarded as one of the greatest philosophers of science of the 20th century.

Popper is known for his rejection of the classical inductivist views on the scientific method, in favour of empirical falsification: A theory in the empirical sciences can never be proven, but it can be falsified, meaning that it can and should be scrutinised by decisive experiments. If the outcome of an experiment contradicts the theory, one should refrain from ad hoc manoeuvres that evade the contradiction merely by making it less falsifiable. Popper is also known for his opposition to the classical justificationist account of knowledge which he replaced with critical rationalism, “the first non-justificational philosophy of criticism in the history of philosophy.”

In political discourse, he is known for his vigorous defence of liberal democracy and the principles of social criticism that he came to believe made a flourishing “open society” possible. His political philosophy embraces ideas from all major democratic political ideologies and attempts to reconcile them: social democracy, classical liberalism and conservatism, more explicitly so in his later years.”

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Date: 23/03/2015 16:27:55
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 696806
Subject: re: Philosophy

Rule 303 said:


bob(from black rock) said:

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Do you have a question, Bob?

Yeah, how long is a piece of string? and Why is a policeman?

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Date: 23/03/2015 16:30:29
From: transition
ID: 696808
Subject: re: Philosophy

Q for Bob

Are you what you mostly don’t know?

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Date: 23/03/2015 16:38:09
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 696814
Subject: re: Philosophy

transition said:


Q for Bob

Are you what you mostly don’t know?

I, err don’t know, so you must be right. Bugger me, how did that happen?

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Date: 23/03/2015 16:46:07
From: transition
ID: 696820
Subject: re: Philosophy

>I, err don’t know, so you must be right. Bugger me, how did that happen?

point was the possibility of being to any extent what one doesn’t know, and attributing that a significance, is probably a feature of consciousness, and probably important to what philosophy is.

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Date: 24/03/2015 06:21:12
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 697093
Subject: re: Philosophy

Cymek said:


mollwollfumble said:

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Science is a subset of philosophy. Questions that have an answer (even if we don’t know it at the time of questioning) is “science”. Questions that can’t be answered, are philosophy.

There are some who say that some scientific theories such as String Theory fall outside of science and into philosophy.

I’ve found out recently that pure mathematics is also a subset of philosophy. Just a couple of years ago I was offered the opportunity to do a PhD in philosophy on a pure mathematics topic. None of the mathematicians understood what I was talking about, but a philosopher did.

So the idea is philosophy but the mathematics backing it up is science ?

Exactly correct. The philosophical question is “what is infinity?” for which the mathematics contains:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperreal_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surreal_number
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hahn_series
etc.

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Date: 24/03/2015 18:06:43
From: Soso
ID: 697401
Subject: re: Philosophy

bob(from black rock) said:


A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask.

Questions like “What is a philosopher?”

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Date: 24/03/2015 18:25:51
From: Soso
ID: 697408
Subject: re: Philosophy

mollwollfumble said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

bob(from black rock) said:

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask. A philosophy professor,. is a person who thinks up answers to which there are no known questions

Science is a subset of philosophy. Questions that have an answer (even if we don’t know it at the time of questioning) is “science”. Questions that can’t be answered, are philosophy.

There are some who say that some scientific theories such as String Theory fall outside of science and into philosophy.

I’ve found out recently that pure mathematics is also a subset of philosophy. Just a couple of years ago I was offered the opportunity to do a PhD in philosophy on a pure mathematics topic. None of the mathematicians understood what I was talking about, but a philosopher did.

Back when I was at uni, the Pure Maths department ran logic courses for Philosophy students. I mean Logic as pure mathematics students would study it, not some “Logic for dummies” course. As far as I knew it was the only real overlap between the Arts and Sciences faculties.

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Date: 25/03/2015 11:23:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 697548
Subject: re: Philosophy

Soso said:


bob(from black rock) said:

A Philosopher is a person who dreams up answers to questions that only another philosopher would ask.

Questions like “What is a philosopher?”

Very nice. I know of one person who published a paper on philosophy titled: “What, exactly, is uncertainty?”

The branches of philosophy.

Metaphysics Study of Existence What’s out there?
Epistemology Study of Knowledge How do I know about it?
Ethics Study of Action What should I do?
Politics Study of Force What actions are permissible?
Esthetics Study of Art What can life be like?

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