Date: 9/04/2015 14:54:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705923
Subject: Pschology and human chemistry
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Date: 9/04/2015 14:55:40
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705924
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:

opps should be

Psychology and human chemistry

what do we know about it?

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:00:14
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705925
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

opps should be

Psychology and human chemistry

what do we know about it?

Im wondering if all human emotion is chemically driven

if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

will Psychology then become a true science?

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:14:49
From: Cymek
ID: 705926
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

http://io9.com/the-most-popular-antidepressants-are-based-on-a-theory-1686163236

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:26:05
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705927
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

it is known that adrenaline causes fear

so that one human emotion connected to a substance

adrenaline is a stress hormone

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:29:39
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705928
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

love is another human emotion

from some links I found love involves Serotonin, Dopamine and Adrenaline

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:29:56
From: furious
ID: 705929
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

I’m no human psycho-chemist but, isn’t it the other way around?

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:31:26
From: Cymek
ID: 705930
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

If we could isolate the chemicals that cause various emotions I wonder if they could be injected into socially maladjusted people to make them more empathic.

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:32:08
From: Cymek
ID: 705931
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

furious said:

  • it is known that adrenaline causes fear

I’m no human psycho-chemist but, isn’t it the other way around?

I thought so the flight or fright response

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:55:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705937
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

this from Nature
Opioid receptors revealed

Facial attractiveness is a powerful cue that affects social communication and motivates sexual behavior.1, 2, 3 Attractive people are both judged4 and treated5 more positively, reflecting the biased stereotypical notion that ‘beautiful is good’. Indeed, beautiful faces are processed by the limbic reward system6 and according to the same economic principles as non-social rewards. The human reward system has a high density of μ-opioid receptors,8 which have an important role in affiliation and attachment. Here, we causally test whether the healthy human opioid system mediates facial attractiveness preference.

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:56:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705938
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

furious said:

  • it is known that adrenaline causes fear

I’m no human psycho-chemist but, isn’t it the other way around?

you are correct

it should be the other way around

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:57:19
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705939
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

Cymek said:


If we could isolate the chemicals that cause various emotions I wonder if they could be injected into socially maladjusted people to make them more empathic.

be great if they could

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Date: 9/04/2015 15:58:43
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 705940
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>>Facial attractiveness is a powerful cue that affects social communication and motivates sexual behaviour

Who would have thought hey?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:01:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705943
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

Brain Rewards Us for Looking at Pretty Faces

You probably saw dozens of people’s faces today, many more if you live in a city. You may not have been conscious of it, but you were subtly judging every one by its beauty. Your eyes are drawn to more attractive faces, and the almost inescapable result is that more attractive people have advantages in almost every aspect of life, from job interviews to prison sentencing. But what drives us to crave beauty? According to one theory, gazing upon beauty stimulates the brain’s μ-opioid receptors (MOR), thought to be a key part of our biochemical reward system

more…

another thing is that if connection is verified it will also have implications for art and aesthetics

that there is a chemical connection involved

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:02:10
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705946
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

link

Brain Rewards Us for Looking at Pretty Faces

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:03:09
From: transition
ID: 705947
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

what’s with the chemical-centric view of it all

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:05:21
From: Cymek
ID: 705949
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


Brain Rewards Us for Looking at Pretty Faces

You probably saw dozens of people’s faces today, many more if you live in a city. You may not have been conscious of it, but you were subtly judging every one by its beauty. Your eyes are drawn to more attractive faces, and the almost inescapable result is that more attractive people have advantages in almost every aspect of life, from job interviews to prison sentencing. But what drives us to crave beauty? According to one theory, gazing upon beauty stimulates the brain’s μ-opioid receptors (MOR), thought to be a key part of our biochemical reward system

more…

another thing is that if connection is verified it will also have implications for art and aesthetics

that there is a chemical connection involved

The bit about prison sentencing is interesting I wonder if judges and magistrates are aware of this and are impartial regardless, I do notice that a lot of prisoners are what society would deem unattractive.

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:11:18
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705953
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

transition said:


>if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

what’s with the chemical-centric view of it all

Im not trying to suggest that there is an all chemical-centric view

Im suggesting that chemicals in the human body are playing an important part in how the human body responds to its environment

like suddenly seeing a tiger running towards you

seeing the tiger induces an adrenaline response yes?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:14:10
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705955
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

Cymek said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Brain Rewards Us for Looking at Pretty Faces

You probably saw dozens of people’s faces today, many more if you live in a city. You may not have been conscious of it, but you were subtly judging every one by its beauty. Your eyes are drawn to more attractive faces, and the almost inescapable result is that more attractive people have advantages in almost every aspect of life, from job interviews to prison sentencing. But what drives us to crave beauty? According to one theory, gazing upon beauty stimulates the brain’s μ-opioid receptors (MOR), thought to be a key part of our biochemical reward system

more…

another thing is that if connection is verified it will also have implications for art and aesthetics

that there is a chemical connection involved

The bit about prison sentencing is interesting I wonder if judges and magistrates are aware of this and are impartial regardless, I do notice that a lot of prisoners are what society would deem unattractive.

you might be onto something

if the human brain does reward itself for looking at beautiful faces then something must also be going on for ugly faces, but what the brain does for ugly faces I don’t know

more research needs to be done

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:17:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705957
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


transition said:

>if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

what’s with the chemical-centric view of it all

Im not trying to suggest that there is an all chemical-centric view

Im suggesting that chemicals in the human body are playing an important part in how the human body responds to its environment

like suddenly seeing a tiger running towards you

seeing the tiger induces an adrenaline response yes? an emotion caused by what the person is looking at

a man seeing a beautiful woman induces a chemical response which is an emotion caused by what the person is looking at

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:19:38
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705959
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

transition said:

>if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

what’s with the chemical-centric view of it all

Im not trying to suggest that there is an all chemical-centric view

Im suggesting that chemicals in the human body are playing an important part in how the human body responds to its environment

like suddenly seeing a tiger running towards you

seeing the tiger induces an adrenaline response yes? an emotion caused by what the person is looking at

a man seeing a beautiful woman induces a chemical response which is an emotion caused by what the person is looking at

like hearing Tony Abbot doing a gaffe on the radio or tv

induces an emotion caused by the environment, the environment being the radio or tv and Tony Abbot making the gaffe

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:22:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705960
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

I can accept too that emotions can be driven within a persons mind and not an environment

like remembering tony abbott making a gaffe and then getting angry because of a memory

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:25:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705961
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

and it might turn out that not all emotions are chemically driven

but created by different means

but, I’m a mixed media artist not a scientist

I think psychology should look to biology and chemistry a bit more for answers

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:28:55
From: Cymek
ID: 705964
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


and it might turn out that not all emotions are chemically driven

but created by different means

but, I’m a mixed media artist not a scientist

I think psychology should look to biology and chemistry a bit more for answers

Isn’t that what psychiatry does ?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:33:16
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705968
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

Cymek said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

and it might turn out that not all emotions are chemically driven

but created by different means

but, I’m a mixed media artist not a scientist

I think psychology should look to biology and chemistry a bit more for answers

Isn’t that what psychiatry does ?

doesn’t psychology take emotions into account?

if most emotions are chemically driven by various means external or internal

wouldn’t it be of interest to psychology, psychiatry doctors and medicine in general?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:35:10
From: transition
ID: 705971
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


transition said:

>if Psychology accepts that human emotion is chemically driven

what’s with the chemical-centric view of it all

Im not trying to suggest that there is an all chemical-centric view

Im suggesting that chemicals in the human body are playing an important part in how the human body responds to its environment

like suddenly seeing a tiger running towards you

seeing the tiger induces an adrenaline response yes?

what does ‘pshychology accepts’ mean, specifically “accepts”.

I wouldn’t buy too much into the adrenaline flight/fight thing, there’re readiness changes for time-sensitive situations, though ‘threat/ening’ some of these may be, adrenaline also works for lesser things that involve extreme effort and determination, and too cognitive efforts that may go to furious determination, these similarly can be mis/understood to be anger.

When I’m exhausted and have to do things that require great effort (and motivation) I am sure adrenaline is involved.

When you use the word ‘environment’ too you might want to differentiate internal from external (acknowledge that internal) that your body also has and maintains an internal evironment (homeostasis – milieu intérieur), you’d be forgiven for neglecting it though, not being something the instruments of ideology are famous for drawing attention to.

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:37:25
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705975
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

yes, the environment is external

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:39:39
From: transition
ID: 705977
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>yes, the environment is external

your speaking from an internal environment

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:44:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705983
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

transition said:


>yes, the environment is external

your speaking from an internal environment

thinking is internal

typing it is external

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:45:42
From: transition
ID: 705985
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>typing it is external

what’s funny about a joke?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:46:05
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705987
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

here is another article on dopamine “reward”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-we-melt-at-puppy-pictures-1428504897

in this case babies

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:47:54
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705991
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

transition said:


>typing it is external

what’s funny about a joke?

?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:49:03
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705993
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

CrazyNeutrino said:


here is another article on dopamine “reward”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/why-we-melt-at-puppy-pictures-1428504897

in this case babies

Brain-imaging studies show that looking at baby faces activates dopamine “reward” pathways in the brain: The cuter the baby, the higher the activation. (I’m full of empathy for the parents whose babies are used as examples of “not cute” in these studies.)

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:49:42
From: transition
ID: 705995
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>?

give me an idea what you think it is that makes a joke funny…

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:51:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705996
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

transition said:


>?

give me an idea what you think it is that makes a joke funny…

can you tell me in a poem?

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:56:11
From: transition
ID: 705997
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

>can you tell me in a poem?

take the stock frame of reference shift
wanders ‘long you thinking it about this
then all a sudden it’s ‘bout that get gist
amusin’ is it internal mental gymnastic

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Date: 9/04/2015 16:58:37
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 705998
Subject: re: Pschology and human chemistry

transition said:


>can you tell me in a poem?

take the stock frame of reference shift
wanders ‘long you thinking it about this
then all a sudden it’s ‘bout that get gist
amusin’ is it internal mental gymnastic

an association to the reference?

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