Work this one out :)
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
Good job it’s not an English test. Correction: “became friends”
May 19th ?
Cymek said:
May 19th ?
Nyet.
sibeen said:
Cymek said:
May 19th ?
Nyet.
The answer is in the Guardian, but I still don’t understand it.
pommiejohn said:
The answer is in the Guardian, but I still don’t understand it.
Damm, I’ve been sprung reading that communists rag…again :)
sibeen said:
pommiejohn said:
The answer is in the Guardian, but I still don’t understand it.
Damm, I’ve been sprung reading that communists rag…again :)
closet pink eyed commy needs to come out some time…
Personally I think Albert and Bernard should tell Cheryl to piss off.
This morning I got part of the way to figuring it out (w/o a whiteboard) then I had to deal with the billing offices of two medical groups for the same bill, or so I thought. Also the insurance company and by then my brain melted and slid off the planet. No more time for Albert, Bernard and Cheryl’s little issue.
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Aquila said:
Work this one out :)
seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Maths fun = oxymoron.
Tamb said:
Aquila said:seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Maths fun = oxymoron.
Tamb said:
Aquila said:Work this one out :)
seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Maths fun = oxymoron.
OK, I’ve worked it out, what now?
>Good job it’s not an English test. Correction: “became friends”
…… ‘become’ is alright English
is it may 19
you better tell me before you ruin my day
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
Aquila said:Work this one out :)
seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Maths fun = oxymoron.
OK, I’ve worked it out, what now?
Detonate your relatives and fly to Dover.
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:
Aquila said:Work this one out :)
seriously just get stuffed!
:P
Maths fun = oxymoron.
OK, I’ve worked it out, what now?
Show your working :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
OK, I’ve worked it out, what now?
You tell us the answer and your methodology..
transition said:
>Good job it’s not an English test. Correction: “became friends”…… ‘become’ is alright English
is it may 19
you better tell me before you ruin my day
sibeen said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Tamb said:Maths fun = oxymoron.
OK, I’ve worked it out, what now?
Show your working :)
step 1 – google ‘theguardian cheryl’
step 2 – cick on guardian link
step 3 – cut n paste
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.
So it must be July 16.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
Does this really count as maths?
Can I claim it as CPD?
The Rev Dodgson said:
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
I didn’t give the answer because I knew the Rev would probably be attracted to this thread, and I didn’t want to spoil it for him.
The Rev Dodgson said:
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
I got the same answer with a psychic duck and a pin.
Bubblecar said:
I didn’t give the answer because I knew the Rev would probably be attracted to this thread, and I didn’t want to spoil it for him.
I knew bubblecar would have solved it already, so I didn’t have to worry about that.
Bubblecar said:
I didn’t give the answer because I knew the Rev would probably be attracted to this thread, and I didn’t want to spoil it for him.
I didn’t give the answer because I knew some people in Western Australia could be still working on it.
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
The point is, if Albert and Bernard don’t give Cheryl anything for her birthday, they’re in biiiiiiiig trouble!
My daughter is 37 today.
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
sibeen said:
Work this one out :)
It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
I’m still stuck on how they’re eliminating unique dates.
It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:
The Rev Dodgson said:It can’t be May or June, because these have unique days, so Albert couldn’t be sure that Bernard didn’t know.
So Bernard knows it’s July or August
It can’t be 14 because Bernard wouldn’t know which month if it was.
So it must be 15, 16, or 17.
After Bernard says he knows, Albert knows as well, so the month must be July because if it was August Albert would still not know if the day was 15 or 17.So it must be July 16.
I’m still stuck on how they’re eliminating unique dates.It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:I’m still stuck on how they’re eliminating unique dates.
It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.
I said May 19 using what you did above but it was wrong
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:I’m still stuck on how they’re eliminating unique dates.
It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.
That ignores the first step of the logic.
i.e. if Albert was told the month was May he wouldn’t have known that Bernard did not yet know the answer.
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.I said May 19 using what you did above but it was wrong
But on the logic used, how can July the 16 be right?
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:
Divine Angel said:I’m still stuck on how they’re eliminating unique dates.
It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.
PF, I was responding to DA’s question and I assumed she got the first part where May and June have already been eliminated.
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.I said May 19 using what you did above but it was wrong
But on the logic used, how can July the 16 be right?
May and June are eliminated as Albert states that Bernaud doesn’t know the answer, May and june are the only two months which have individual dates.
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:
PermeateFree said:Following that logic:
July and August both have 14
May and August both have 15
May and July both have 16
June and August both have 17
Which leaves only May 19.I said May 19 using what you did above but it was wrong
But on the logic used, how can July the 16 be right?
Once you know it is out of July and August you have:
It cannot be the 14th, as the 14th appears in both July & August. Bernuad knows the date, and now claims to know the answer. So it can’t be the 14th, as this would still leave two months to decide from.
Once Bernaud has stated he know the answer, Albert then realises that as he knows the month – July, and that it can’t be the 14th, then it has to be the 16th.
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:
Cymek said:I said May 19 using what you did above but it was wrong
But on the logic used, how can July the 16 be right?
May and June are eliminated as Albert states that Bernaud doesn’t know the answer, May and june are the only two months which have individual dates.
But isn’t May 19 the only individual date? What is the individual June date?
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:But on the logic used, how can July the 16 be right?
May and June are eliminated as Albert states that Bernaud doesn’t know the answer, May and june are the only two months which have individual dates.
But isn’t May 19 the only individual date? What is the individual June date?
18th June.
So there is only one 18 and one 19, as they are in different months both these months can be excluded.
sibeen said:
PermeateFree said:
sibeen said:May and June are eliminated as Albert states that Bernaud doesn’t know the answer, May and june are the only two months which have individual dates.
But isn’t May 19 the only individual date? What is the individual June date?
18th June.
So there is only one 18 and one 19, as they are in different months both these months can be excluded.
Ah yes, couldn’t see for looking.
there are two dates with numbers that only appear once
when she tells someone the number they can deduce its the may because the 19th only appears once
when they let on that they know the other person knows what the date is
?
is this “maths “ fun ?
respectively Bernard is told the day – the 19th
wookiemeister said:
respectively Bernard is told the day – the 19th
Bullshit, nobody told me nothing!
>I’m here now.
I could watch tumble weed all day
transition said:
>I’m here now.I could watch tumble weed all day
Did you know tumbleweeds are not american and came over with german settlers who brought thier own seed crops and amongst those seeds was tumbleweeds? During the dust bowl they were about the only plant that lived and they tried using it as fodder without much luck.
AwesomeO said:
transition said:
>I’m here now.I could watch tumble weed all day
Did you know tumbleweeds are not american and came over with german settlers who brought thier own seed crops and amongst those seeds was tumbleweeds? During the dust bowl they were about the only plant that lived and they tried using it as fodder without much luck.
Did you know that that has very little to do with logic problems?
:)
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:
transition said:
>I’m here now.I could watch tumble weed all day
Did you know tumbleweeds are not american and came over with german settlers who brought thier own seed crops and amongst those seeds was tumbleweeds? During the dust bowl they were about the only plant that lived and they tried using it as fodder without much luck.
Did you know that that has very little to do with logic problems?
:)
Hey, I didn’t start it.
>Did you know tumbleweeds are not american and came over with german settlers who brought thier own seed crops and amongst those seeds was tumbleweeds? During the dust bowl they were about the only plant that lived and they tried using it as fodder without much luck.
We call ‘m rolly pollies too, well did when young, I suppose ‘m are the same thing. Prickly these ones are, grow quite big….maybe 2’+ across, sheep don’t eat them far as am aware, cattle might but doubt it, can’t be sure.
Unless some people called wild turnip/rape plants(bit like’n related to canola) tumble weed, which can roll too, bank up against fence lines, sheep eat them, but doubt it’d be them that is meant by tumble weed.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
AwesomeO said:Did you know tumbleweeds are not american and came over with german settlers who brought thier own seed crops and amongst those seeds was tumbleweeds? During the dust bowl they were about the only plant that lived and they tried using it as fodder without much luck.
Did you know that that has very little to do with logic problems?
:)
Hey, I didn’t start it.
I just got here, and I’m known for slapping down the first inexcusable incident that I run across. It’s normally something Boris has posted. Oh, wait, I’ve doubles up this evening as I’ve already had a go at him. Ce la vie.
>Did you know that that has very little to do with logic problems?
let this little ol’ math dunce stay within the confines of the territory of his competencies
that five minute spent on sir’s logic problem this morning it strained dear adequate self
just looking at that question again
it’s worded badly
wookiemeister said:
just looking at that question againit’s worded badly
In what way?
it made sense.
;-)
Actually reading it again, I agree with Wookie, the grammar was pretty poor.
But as an unambiguous statement of the facts required to solve the problem, it was just fine :)