Date: 21/04/2015 11:22:40
From: Arts
ID: 711680
Subject: lies we are told in school

I know educating a bunch of other people’s kids from different backgrounds is hard… but some of the information is so dumbed down it’s not even true.

like: *no gravity in space… *Thomas Edison and the lightbulb invention *humans descended from chimpanzees – this one irritates me because it’s used by creationists as a point of ‘ridiculous evolution’ – just like people who say if your child is immunised why worry – it shows a complete lack of basic understanding of the subject. *VanGough sliced his own ear off due to mental illness – wrong, he was just a terrible swordsman

and there are plenty more…

maybe we should publish a text book for school with all the inconsistent information that is given in it’s correct form. But easy enough to understand – even for a highschool teacher….

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:38:00
From: Woodie
ID: 711694
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

Karen Plotza had germs and I couldn’t get them if I had my fingers crossed.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:40:17
From: Arts
ID: 711696
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Woodie said:


Arts said:

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

Karen Plotza had germs and I couldn’t get them if I had my fingers crossed.

clearly it worked .. so not a lie

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:43:05
From: Cymek
ID: 711699
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

The ones you mentioned still exist in the minds of many adults even today especially the we are descended from monkeys. Some if not most are convienient to believe in as otherwise it questions your belief system.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:44:15
From: Aquila
ID: 711700
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Are you missing your offspring already, Arts? :D

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:45:04
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 711701
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Aquila said:


Are you missing your offspring already, Arts? :D

yeah, but her aim is getting better…

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:46:26
From: Arts
ID: 711703
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Aquila said:


Are you missing your offspring already, Arts? :D

yes… I might start homeschooling them… it seems like a lot more fun

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:47:02
From: Aquila
ID: 711704
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

I STILL don’t know if this is true or not…

In early primary school I remember a question from a test which asked:

Q. Which day is the first day of the week?

My A. Monday

I was marked wrong and told Sunday is the first day of the week.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:47:41
From: Arts
ID: 711705
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Aquila said:


I STILL don’t know if this is true or not…

In early primary school I remember a question from a test which asked:

Q. Which day is the first day of the week?

My A. Monday

I was marked wrong and told Sunday is the first day of the week.

I thought Sunday was ‘the day of rest’ so you;d think it would be at the end of the week

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:48:45
From: kii
ID: 711706
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Back to work for me tomorrow :/ had fun for most of last week with the in laws visiting.

Only 2 days at the book store and then at least 4 off :P

My feet hurt already – had PT today and had to pick up marbles with my toes. Slippery little suckers they are.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:49:55
From: kii
ID: 711707
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Aquila said:


I STILL don’t know if this is true or not…

In early primary school I remember a question from a test which asked:

Q. Which day is the first day of the week?

My A. Monday

I was marked wrong and told Sunday is the first day of the week.

Oh, this does my head in!!! I had never encountered this before…here in the USA it is the norm.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:49:58
From: Aquila
ID: 711708
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:


Aquila said:

I STILL don’t know if this is true or not…

In early primary school I remember a question from a test which asked:

Q. Which day is the first day of the week?

My A. Monday

I was marked wrong and told Sunday is the first day of the week.

I thought Sunday was ‘the day of rest’ so you;d think it would be at the end of the week


This logic seems sound to me

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:50:16
From: kii
ID: 711709
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

kii said:


Back to work for me tomorrow :/ had fun for most of last week with the in laws visiting.

Only 2 days at the book store and then at least 4 off :P

My feet hurt already – had PT today and had to pick up marbles with my toes. Slippery little suckers they are.

Wrong thread :/

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:51:05
From: kii
ID: 711710
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:


Aquila said:

I STILL don’t know if this is true or not…

In early primary school I remember a question from a test which asked:

Q. Which day is the first day of the week?

My A. Monday

I was marked wrong and told Sunday is the first day of the week.

I thought Sunday was ‘the day of rest’ so you;d think it would be at the end of the week

That’s what I thought….stoopid religious clap trap.

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:55:41
From: Arts
ID: 711712
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

God commanded that the seventh day be observed as the Sabbath. A glance at almost any dictionary or encyclopedia will show you that Saturday is the seventh day of the week, while Sunday is the first day of the week. The seventh day according to God’s calendar is—and always has been—the Sabbath day. Although man has modified calendars through the centuries, the seven-day weekly cycle has remained intact throughout history. The days of the week have always remained in their proper order, with Sunday as the first day of the week and Saturday as the seventh. – http://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/which-day-is-the-sabbath

well, I’ll be …

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Date: 21/04/2015 11:57:17
From: transition
ID: 711715
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

before you are born the apparatus awaits its subjects
way precedin’ your conception’n you’ll be of other’
readied that ideological ‘m notions into ‘the lie’ accept
it’ll call your name’n you’ll turn’n look’n not wonder
how all else is made true’n your part makin’ so, adept
your reality’s most prevalent errors’n so no bother
imbue commonsense all ‘round’n become your lense
through you’ll see the world be thinkin’ it your own

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:04:00
From: pommiejohn
ID: 711719
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

The Van Gogh thing isn’t actually lie. It’s disputed. He claimed that was what he’d done but some historians reckon he was protecting his mate Gaugin who cut it off with a sword.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:05:25
From: Arts
ID: 711720
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

pommiejohn said:


The Van Gogh thing isn’t actually lie. It’s disputed. He claimed that was what he’d done but some historians reckon he was protecting his mate Gaugin who cut it off with a sword.

yes, he’s a terrible swordsman

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:06:42
From: Speedy
ID: 711722
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

I attended Catholic schools for 13 years. That’s a lot of lies.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:12:28
From: Dropbear
ID: 711727
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Bohr atomic model

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:12:31
From: diddly-squat
ID: 711728
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

that participation is more important than winning

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:13:34
From: Aquila
ID: 711730
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:


God commanded that the seventh day be observed as the Sabbath. A glance at almost any dictionary or encyclopedia will show you that Saturday is the seventh day of the week, while Sunday is the first day of the week. The seventh day according to God’s calendar is—and always has been—the Sabbath day. Although man has modified calendars through the centuries, the seven-day weekly cycle has remained intact throughout history. The days of the week have always remained in their proper order, with Sunday as the first day of the week and Saturday as the seventh. – http://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/which-day-is-the-sabbath

well, I’ll be …


yeah, I vaguely remember the teacher quote something to this effect.
I think it was in year 4 (public school), I went to private school in years 5 through 7

I didn’t believe her, if I recall correctly, I actually told her that it can’t be Sunday because the weekend was a holiday and school started on a Monday, so the religious explanation didn’t sound right to me.
Maybe that’s why I was sent to private school for a few years….LOL

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:15:47
From: Arts
ID: 711733
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Aquila said:


Arts said:

God commanded that the seventh day be observed as the Sabbath. A glance at almost any dictionary or encyclopedia will show you that Saturday is the seventh day of the week, while Sunday is the first day of the week. The seventh day according to God’s calendar is—and always has been—the Sabbath day. Although man has modified calendars through the centuries, the seven-day weekly cycle has remained intact throughout history. The days of the week have always remained in their proper order, with Sunday as the first day of the week and Saturday as the seventh. – http://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/bible-questions-and-answers/which-day-is-the-sabbath

well, I’ll be …


yeah, I vaguely remember the teacher quote something to this effect.
I think it was in year 4 (public school), I went to private school in years 5 through 7

I didn’t believe her, if I recall correctly, I actually told her that it can’t be Sunday because the weekend was a holiday and school started on a Monday, so the religious explanation didn’t sound right to me.
Maybe that’s why I was sent to private school for a few years….LOL

I said stuff like that and got kicked out of private school…

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:16:04
From: diddly-squat
ID: 711734
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Dropbear said:


Bohr atomic model

in fairness, at least the model of the atom is explained in terms of its evolution…

for me the big ‘lies’ in science aren’t really lies… simply because in high school you don’t have access to the tools necessary to understand GR and QT.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:17:22
From: Dropbear
ID: 711735
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

diddly-squat said:


Dropbear said:

Bohr atomic model

in fairness, at least the model of the atom is explained in terms of its evolution…

for me the big ‘lies’ in science aren’t really lies… simply because in high school you don’t have access to the tools necessary to understand GR and QT.

evolution?? I didn’t waste my time in stamp-collecting, fella.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:28:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 711742
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

I was told virtually nothing about aborigines. What I was told was all lies.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:33:25
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 711744
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

diddly-squat said:


Arts said:

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

that participation is more important than winning

Does that mean that cheating is okay?

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:36:34
From: Speedy
ID: 711745
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Witty Rejoinder said:

Does that mean that cheating is okay?

As long as you don;t get caught for it.

Did you hear about the woman who snuck onto a marathon course and was the first woman to cross the line? lol.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:36:51
From: diddly-squat
ID: 711746
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Witty Rejoinder said:


diddly-squat said:

Arts said:

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

that participation is more important than winning

Does that mean that cheating is okay?

my point was factious, but even so it’s possible to compete, and win, without cheating

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:39:27
From: Speedy
ID: 711747
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Little Speedy’s year 2 teacher asked the class what the definition of a mammal was. He put his hand up and said it was an animal that drank milk. He was wrong! Apparently, it’s an animal with fur these days.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:40:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 711748
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

diddly-squat said:

I agree.

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Date: 21/04/2015 12:46:29
From: diddly-squat
ID: 711749
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Speedy said:


Little Speedy’s year 2 teacher asked the class what the definition of a mammal was. He put his hand up and said it was an animal that drank milk. He was wrong! Apparently, it’s an animal with fur these days.

both are correct criteria for the definition of mammals along with being a warm blooded vertebrate and giving birth to live young.

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Date: 21/04/2015 13:18:07
From: Speedy
ID: 711757
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Speedy said:


Little Speedy’s year 2 teacher asked the class what the definition of a mammal was. He put his hand up and said it was an animal that drank milk. He was wrong! Apparently, it’s an animal with fur these days.

I see. I will let him know. Hopefully it will ease his fury :)

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Date: 21/04/2015 13:57:46
From: transition
ID: 711763
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mammal

Mammals (class Mammalia /məˈmeɪli.ə/) are a clade of endothermic amniotes distinguished from reptiles and birds by the possession of hair, three middle ear bones, mammary glands, and a neocortex (a region of the brain). The mammalian brain regulates body temperature and the circulatory system, including the four-chambered heart. The mammals include the largest animals on the planet, the rorquals and some other whales, as well as some of the most intelligent, such as elephants, some primates and some cetaceans. The basic body type is a four-legged land-borne animal, but some mammals are adapted for life at sea, in the air, in the trees, or on two legs. The largest group of mammals, the placentals, have a placenta which feeds the offspring during pregnancy. Mammals range in size from the 30–40 mm (1.2–1.6 in) bumblebee bat to the 33-meter (108 ft) blue whale.

The word “mammal” is modern, from the scientific name Mammalia coined by Carl Linnaeus in 1758, derived from the Latin mamma (“teat, pap”). All female mammals nurse their young with milk, which is secreted from special glands, the mammary glands. According to Mammal Species of the World, 5,416 species were known in 2006. These were grouped in 1,229 genera, 153 families and 29 orders. In 2008 the IUCN completed a five-year, 1,700-scientist Global Mammal Assessment for its IUCN Red List, which counted 5,488 accepted species at the end of that period. In some classifications, the mammals are divided into two subclasses (not counting fossils): the Prototheria (order of Monotremata) and the Theria, the latter composed of the infraclasses Metatheria and Eutheria. The marsupials constitute the crown group of the Metatheria and therefore include all living metatherians as well as many extinct ones; the placentals likewise constitute the crown group of the Eutheria.

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Date: 21/04/2015 14:42:03
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 711769
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

both are correct criteria for the definition of mammals along with being a warm blooded vertebrate and giving birth to live young.

monotremes are mammals and they lay eggs.

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Date: 21/04/2015 16:44:37
From: Rule 303
ID: 711814
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Glass is a super-cool liquid.

And they’re still telling kids that!

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Date: 21/04/2015 16:49:22
From: Teleost
ID: 711817
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Good looking handwriting is more important than reasonably legible handwriting.

Captain Cook discovered Australia.

Earthworms do not have segmented hearts.

High school will be the best years of your life and you’ll always look back at them with pleasure.

Sex is bad.

Drugs are bad.

If you don’t get good results in grade 10, 11 & 12 you’ll never get a good job or be able to go to university.

So many lies.

Even now, I have to debunk things that my kids “learned” at school like the biggest shark is the Grey White (sic) shark and Megladons are alive and eat submarines.

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Date: 21/04/2015 16:59:48
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 711819
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

This is going to hurt me more than it will hurt you.

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:08:10
From: Dropbear
ID: 711820
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

If you tell anyone else what happened here, I’ll get into trouble

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:11:30
From: sibeen
ID: 711822
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Don’t steal the magnesium strips from the chem lab, you’ll get in severe trouble.

Oh, wait on…I suspect they were correct with that.

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:19:23
From: poikilotherm
ID: 711823
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

sibeen said:


Don’t steal the magnesium strips from the chem lab, you’ll get in severe trouble.

Oh, wait on…I suspect they were correct with that.

top tip…don’t steal the last remnants of elemental sodium and have some douche come with and get burnt while playing with it…

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:20:33
From: transition
ID: 711824
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

>Oh, wait on…

Your tending toward reminiscing and stories, sibeen. Stop now.

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:35:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 711829
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

In those days we were taught that the grey nurse shark was a kiiller.

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Date: 21/04/2015 17:52:11
From: transition
ID: 711841
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

little ol’ remembers a day the class done had science before lunch
recall involved ethyl alcohol’n someone thought go good with lunch drinks
so it went there was an extended science lesson, some added fun
do mix real well with coke’n all’n ‘round the place there some rosy cheeks
teachers they got wind of this’n terrible hell big fuss’n trouble much
notes go home’n mums’n dads got to read ‘bout dabblin’ alcohol mischief

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Date: 21/04/2015 19:17:23
From: Teleost
ID: 711869
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

sibeen said:


Don’t steal the magnesium strips from the chem lab, you’ll get in severe trouble.

Oh, wait on…I suspect they were correct with that.

Nope, never got in trouble for that one but I stuck with the golden rule “Don’t get caught”

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Date: 21/04/2015 22:51:00
From: dv
ID: 711912
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

Arts said:


I know educating a bunch of other people’s kids from different backgrounds is hard… but some of the information is so dumbed down it’s not even true.

like: *no gravity in space… *Thomas Edison and the lightbulb invention *humans descended from chimpanzees – this one irritates me because it’s used by creationists as a point of ‘ridiculous evolution’ – just like people who say if your child is immunised why worry – it shows a complete lack of basic understanding of the subject. *VanGough sliced his own ear off due to mental illness – wrong, he was just a terrible swordsman

and there are plenty more…

maybe we should publish a text book for school with all the inconsistent information that is given in it’s correct form. But easy enough to understand – even for a highschool teacher….

what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth to be the truth ?

I was never told any of those things in school.

I can’t remember any systematic lies told to me at school but I did have a couple of teachers make mistakes.

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Date: 22/04/2015 06:15:03
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 711945
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

> what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth?

Interesting question. None that I can think of immediately, I must have been extremely gullible back then. I remember that my science teacher was entertaining but not knowledgeable.

I can remember reading while in high school that birds were descended from mammals, but that was in Scientific American or New Scientist.

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Date: 22/04/2015 06:18:44
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 711946
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

> what lies were you told in school that you now know to be too far from the truth?

I was greatly influenced by one religious education teacher. It turned out later that he was a con-man who had absconded with the school’s funds.

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Date: 22/04/2015 12:07:22
From: transition
ID: 712117
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

not sure of the “we”, maybe it is superfluous
it could be that it itself hints at some lie
and what of ‘m that pass untold little ol’ asks
we’n us notions, hijackin’ child’s minds
stealth into executive function, do the voices
shit, piss mediate permission required
bein’ excused for basic desire, some device
elevatin’ to instrumental, not all be kind
on task little boy, arsenal behavioural issues
there’s toobox full of names may apply
enjoy apply captivity force proximity’n please
too the temporal controls, clocks, time
maybe it all do work fine, if done respectfully
all that wanderin’ comparison is no fun
variously swift contempt relative man’s deity
but it before school damage long done
all is entertainment, world you extract from it
satisfyin’ nature is different proposition
the lie be ‘m not busy’n on task’re delinquent
it art chrono-developmental policeman

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Date: 22/04/2015 12:08:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 712120
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

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Date: 22/04/2015 12:13:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 712121
Subject: re: lies we are told in school

roughbarked said:



great photo

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