Date: 26/04/2015 03:25:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 713701
Subject: DNA Generated Face.

Genotype to phenotype. Been waiting for this for many decades, and now its here. But not in the form I expected.

dna-generated-faces

The faces here, which look a bit like video game avatars, are actually portraits drawn from DNA.

Each rendering was created by plugging an individual genetic profile into a predictive tool created by Mark D. Shriver, a professor of anthropology and genetics at Penn State University. Dr. Shriver and his colleagues have studied the ways that genes influence facial development.

Their software yields an image in a matter of minutes, rapidly drawing connections between genetic markers and points on the face. In less time than it takes to make a cup of coffee, a sketch emerges inferred solely from DNA.

Because age and weight could not be determined from DNA, the person might be older or younger, heavier or lighter than the image suggested.

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Date: 26/04/2015 03:56:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 713705
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

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Date: 26/04/2015 05:13:20
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 713710
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


Is our DNA speaking to us when we are attracted to faces?

I suspect not, more an aesthetic sense. On the other hand, if we unconsciously rank ourselves on a scale of, say 1 to 10, we may look for other faces to which we give the same ranking.

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Date: 26/04/2015 05:24:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 713713
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

Is our DNA speaking to us when we are attracted to faces?

I suspect not, more an aesthetic sense. On the other hand, if we unconsciously rank ourselves on a scale of, say 1 to 10, we may look for other faces to which we give the same ranking.

I wasn’t thinking of ranking. I was thinking more about selection of genes.

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Date: 26/04/2015 05:32:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 713715
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

roughbarked said:

Is our DNA speaking to us when we are attracted to faces?

I suspect not, more an aesthetic sense. On the other hand, if we unconsciously rank ourselves on a scale of, say 1 to 10, we may look for other faces to which we give the same ranking.

I wasn’t thinking of ranking. I was thinking more about selection of genes.

I know you were. I tend not to select genes in that way, most of the time.

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Date: 26/04/2015 06:02:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 713718
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

mollwollfumble said:


roughbarked said:

mollwollfumble said:

I suspect not, more an aesthetic sense. On the other hand, if we unconsciously rank ourselves on a scale of, say 1 to 10, we may look for other faces to which we give the same ranking.

I wasn’t thinking of ranking. I was thinking more about selection of genes.

I know you were. I tend not to select genes in that way, most of the time.

It could have been my feminine side speaking. ;)

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Date: 26/04/2015 10:06:43
From: dv
ID: 713778
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Nobel has been saved. Hey, who turned out the lights?

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Date: 26/04/2015 11:18:47
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 713808
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

dv said:


Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Nobel has been saved. Hey, who turned out the lights?

ROFL, very appropriate.

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Date: 26/04/2015 11:48:01
From: buffy
ID: 713816
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

To me the generated faces are rather too generic. You can get similarities, but they are pretty vague.

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Date: 26/04/2015 14:54:28
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 713861
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

Seeing Pretty Faces Rewards The Brain; Is Perceiving Beauty All A Chemical Reaction?
http://www.medicaldaily.com/seeing-pretty-faces-rewards-brain-perceiving-beauty-all-chemical-reaction-269074

Seeing Pretty Faces Rewards The Brain; Is Perceiving Beauty All A Chemical Reaction?

Scientists have published a study that examines how we perceive beauty and why we are drawn to people with “pretty” faces. They hypothesize that it’s largely caused by biochemical reward circuits in the brain. So is beauty found in the chemicals of the beholder?

The brain is filled with μ-opioid receptors (MOR), which are an essential part of the body’s biochemical reward system. They play a role in human attachment and bonding. Scientists have found in mice that tweaking MOR neurotransmission can have a direct effect on how large their appetite is for sex or food — and also what their preferences are in these areas.

The researchers wanted to target MOR in their study, to find out if our preferences for attractive faces were somehow linked to the same chemicals. If our μ-opioid receptors were stimulated, would we find pretty faces even more beautiful than before?

more…

seems that it could be

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Date: 26/04/2015 18:29:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 713904
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

Yes.

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Date: 26/04/2015 19:03:07
From: transition
ID: 713910
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

>Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

I see ‘m in wood grain, curtains, of latter especially if layin’ on my side
eyes’n nose you know there is a template in ‘m configured neurons
some ready to be tuned from experience at birth’n it be keenly applied
except those ‘m condition no recognizin’, some’re they is face blind*
face has bunch radar, mix active’n passive, head’n eyes point is what
nose, ears’n more, direction wind on skin, oh there be tongue’n lips
air through vocal cords’n placement of tongue’n there’s ‘m word grunt
teeth too ‘m give clue this’n that, is evolution happened upon radars
smell, taste, sound, sight’n feel, generally ‘m they on the faces that lot

*probably they can tell ‘face’ but not so ‘m distinguishin’ differences?

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Date: 26/04/2015 19:18:36
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 713916
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

The discovery has implications for aesthetics in art,

that there is a chemical link has been established.

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Date: 27/04/2015 00:51:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 713987
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

CrazyNeutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

Seeing Pretty Faces Rewards The Brain; Is Perceiving Beauty All A Chemical Reaction?
http://www.medicaldaily.com/seeing-pretty-faces-rewards-brain-perceiving-beauty-all-chemical-reaction-269074

Seeing Pretty Faces Rewards The Brain; Is Perceiving Beauty All A Chemical Reaction?

Scientists have published a study that examines how we perceive beauty and why we are drawn to people with “pretty” faces. They hypothesize that it’s largely caused by biochemical reward circuits in the brain. So is beauty found in the chemicals of the beholder?

The brain is filled with μ-opioid receptors (MOR), which are an essential part of the body’s biochemical reward system. They play a role in human attachment and bonding. Scientists have found in mice that tweaking MOR neurotransmission can have a direct effect on how large their appetite is for sex or food — and also what their preferences are in these areas.

The researchers wanted to target MOR in their study, to find out if our preferences for attractive faces were somehow linked to the same chemicals. If our μ-opioid receptors were stimulated, would we find pretty faces even more beautiful than before?

more…

seems that it could be

User defined meaning for pretty face.
Not all faces are attractive to all people.
Some faces may not attract you but may be stunningly beautiful to others.

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:08:59
From: transition
ID: 713990
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

above, are you meaning like the force of desire that attracts, perhaps like you know a person might like to venture some intimacy, or are you meaning something like, for example, that the timber knots in my timber walls have one arrangement that looks very much like a seal, and a few others look like aliens, or look alien, face-like.

‘cause, there’s likely a category’n mechanism generalizing ‘face’ for recognition, and then there are faces for different species, and then there’re faces of different individuals/examples.

‘attracted’ might mean a few things.

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:18:43
From: transition
ID: 713991
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Or, you could more be meaning the joy of the internal processing (experience) of what seems attractive of something external.

What’s a good view standing on a mountain top, for example, is it the internal processing of the view that is beautiful, or is it the thing being viewed that is beautiful?

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:20:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 713992
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

transition said:


roughbarked said:

Is our DNA speaking to us when whe are attracted to faces?

above, are you meaning like the force of desire that attracts, perhaps like you know a person might like to venture some intimacy, or are you meaning something like, for example, that the timber knots in my timber walls have one arrangement that looks very much like a seal, and a few others look like aliens, or look alien, face-like.

‘cause, there’s likely a category’n mechanism generalizing ‘face’ for recognition, and then there are faces for different species, and then there’re faces of different individuals/examples.

‘attracted’ might mean a few things.

It may mean little to the male but I’m sure that the story is different for the females.

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:21:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 713994
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

transition said:


Or, you could more be meaning the joy of the internal processing (experience) of what seems attractive of something external.

What’s a good view standing on a mountain top, for example, is it the internal processing of the view that is beautiful, or is it the thing being viewed that is beautiful?

Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:30:17
From: transition
ID: 713996
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Don’t mind me.

Things explained as ‘this attracts to that’, or ‘that is attracted to this’, they appear quite alright terms and concepts, quite native even, but when that ‘….ive’ goes on the end something else happens.

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:33:23
From: roughbarked
ID: 713997
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

transition said:


Don’t mind me.

Things explained as ‘this attracts to that’, or ‘that is attracted to this’, they appear quite alright terms and concepts, quite native even, but when that ‘….ive’ goes on the end something else happens.

The grammar lesson?

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Date: 27/04/2015 01:41:03
From: transition
ID: 713998
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

roughbarked said:


transition said:

Don’t mind me.

Things explained as ‘this attracts to that’, or ‘that is attracted to this’, they appear quite alright terms and concepts, quite native even, but when that ‘….ive’ goes on the end something else happens.

The grammar lesson?

:)

Suppose it no different to a joke bein’ funny, rather than sayin’ your joke did somethin’ funny with my mind.

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Date: 27/04/2015 11:16:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 714152
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

transition said:


roughbarked said:

transition said:

Don’t mind me.

Things explained as ‘this attracts to that’, or ‘that is attracted to this’, they appear quite alright terms and concepts, quite native even, but when that ‘….ive’ goes on the end something else happens.

The grammar lesson?

:)

Suppose it no different to a joke bein’ funny, rather than sayin’ your joke did somethin’ funny with my mind.

As long as you can see any funny side, the sunny side is up.

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Date: 29/04/2015 22:25:50
From: tauto
ID: 715400
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Twins…

http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/people-dont-believe-that-these-teenagers-are-twins#.nrAJDWOjxA

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Date: 29/04/2015 23:00:00
From: dv
ID: 715407
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

tauto said:


Twins…

http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/people-dont-believe-that-these-teenagers-are-twins#.nrAJDWOjxA

Should be easy enough to test
this technology

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Date: 30/04/2015 09:30:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 715447
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

tauto said:


Twins…

http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/people-dont-believe-that-these-teenagers-are-twins#.nrAJDWOjxA

Well obviously she isn’t the real mother.

“Even when we dress alike, we still don’t even look like sisters, let alone twins.”

Except we all know that non-identical twins are no more identical than any other siblings (except in age, obviously).

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Date: 30/04/2015 09:38:25
From: diddly-squat
ID: 715451
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

The Rev Dodgson said:


tauto said:

Twins…

http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/people-dont-believe-that-these-teenagers-are-twins#.nrAJDWOjxA

Well obviously she isn’t the real mother.

“Even when we dress alike, we still don’t even look like sisters, let alone twins.”

Except we all know that non-identical twins are no more identical than any other siblings (except in age, obviously).

I know a couple of sets of fraternal twins that are very different but in the photos in that story have been designed to emphasis the differences – especially in skin tone. The childhood photos are a better comparison.

It’s amazing how much even simple things like hair, can affect the look of an individual.

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Date: 30/04/2015 09:39:23
From: Arts
ID: 715452
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

looking at the photo of the family, it looks like the red head is the odd one out… recessive genes eh?

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Date: 30/04/2015 09:42:36
From: diddly-squat
ID: 715454
Subject: re: DNA Generated Face.

Arts said:


looking at the photo of the family, it looks like the red head is the odd one out… recessive genes eh?

IKR… that apple definitely rolled a bit after it fell.

MY BIL was married to a girl from PNG. Their first son was true little chocolate baby – even now he still has a very dark skin tone, dark hair and dark eyes. Baby 2 is much much fairer, has tinges of red in his hair and has blue eyes.

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