Date: 27/04/2015 15:18:27
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714305
Subject: "So"

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:20:19
From: Tamb
ID: 714306
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?


As ye so so shall ye weep?

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:24:39
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714309
Subject: re: "So"

Tamb said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?


As ye so so shall ye weep?

Shouldn’t that be:- As ye so, so shall ye sweep?

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:29:25
From: Speedy
ID: 714311
Subject: re: "So"

I’m unfamiliar with it, but interviewers are renowned for interrupting.

Guessing that the interviewee is simply continuing with their story.

As I was saying So …

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:31:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 714312
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?

have you any recorded examples?

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:33:07
From: Tamb
ID: 714313
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:


Tamb said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?


As ye so so shall ye weep?

Shouldn’t that be:- As ye so, so shall ye sweep?


The way our PM media gaffes I thought weep was more apt.

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:34:19
From: AwesomeO
ID: 714314
Subject: re: "So"

Happens a lot on forums as well. One person will make an unremarkable statement and the response will be something like, “So, in that case you support genocide then”.

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:36:06
From: Tamb
ID: 714315
Subject: re: "So"

AwesomeO said:


Happens a lot on forums as well. One person will make an unremarkable statement and the response will be something like, “So, in that case you support genocide then”.

I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:36:42
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714316
Subject: re: "So"

CrazyNeutrino said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?

have you any recorded examples?

No I don’t, but I have heard this many times, it proly is not heard, ie register with the listener for some reason.

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:40:54
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714317
Subject: re: "So"

Tamb said:


AwesomeO said:

Happens a lot on forums as well. One person will make an unremarkable statement and the response will be something like, “So, in that case you support genocide then”.

I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

Hadn’t noticed that, but not disputing your observation.

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:43:41
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714318
Subject: re: "So"

AwesomeO said:


Happens a lot on forums as well. One person will make an unremarkable statement and the response will be something like, “So, in that case you support genocide then”.

Well of course, doesn’t everyone?

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:45:12
From: Tamb
ID: 714319
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:


Tamb said:

AwesomeO said:

Happens a lot on forums as well. One person will make an unremarkable statement and the response will be something like, “So, in that case you support genocide then”.

I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

Hadn’t noticed that, but not disputing your observation.


It’s an “in addition” thing e.g I could have started my last post thus:
And I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

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Date: 27/04/2015 15:59:11
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 714320
Subject: re: "So"

Tamb said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Tamb said:

I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

Hadn’t noticed that, but not disputing your observation.


It’s an “in addition” thing e.g I could have started my last post thus:
And I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

Just invented another one, “And so” —-

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Date: 27/04/2015 16:03:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 714322
Subject: re: "So"

And so,
does that so and so bob
reap what he so’s?

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Date: 27/04/2015 16:03:33
From: Tamb
ID: 714323
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:


Tamb said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Hadn’t noticed that, but not disputing your observation.


It’s an “in addition” thing e.g I could have started my last post thus:
And I find a lot of forum stuff starts with “And”

Just invented another one, “And so” —-


That comes from the German: Und so weiter. And so on.

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Date: 27/04/2015 16:35:39
From: JudgeMental
ID: 714325
Subject: re: "So"

Shouldn’t that be:- As ye so, so shall ye sweep?

that is only applicable to jesus as only jesus swept.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:01:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 714332
Subject: re: "So"

It’s quite a recent thing, last year or so I’ve noticed.
It’s very noticeable when young academics are interviewed.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:06:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 714338
Subject: re: "So"

>>That comes from the German

I’ll tell you what’s funny about the Germans, get this, they spell Vagner with a W.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:11:02
From: AwesomeO
ID: 714344
Subject: re: "So"

Peak Warming Man said:


>>That comes from the German

I’ll tell you what’s funny about the Germans, get this, they spell Vagner with a W.

On that railway show last night the fellow said Gerta, referring to Goethe. I have never heard anyone say Goethe before so in my mind I always read it as sort of Gowth.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:13:54
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 714347
Subject: re: "So"

AwesomeO said:


Peak Warming Man said:

>>That comes from the German

I’ll tell you what’s funny about the Germans, get this, they spell Vagner with a W.

On that railway show last night the fellow said Gerta, referring to Goethe. I have never heard anyone say Goethe before so in my mind I always read it as sort of Gowth.

“go tee” is how I’ve often heard it but I don’t know the real pronunciation.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:14:24
From: buffy
ID: 714348
Subject: re: "So"

Peak Warming Man said:


It’s quite a recent thing, last year or so I’ve noticed.
It’s very noticeable when young academics are interviewed.

We discussed this a couple of months ago here, because I started a post with “so”. Only problem with the recentness is that I’ve been starting sentences with ‘so’ since I was a teenager.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:16:21
From: buffy
ID: 714353
Subject: re: "So"

Peak Warming Man said:


AwesomeO said:

Peak Warming Man said:

>>That comes from the German

I’ll tell you what’s funny about the Germans, get this, they spell Vagner with a W.

On that railway show last night the fellow said Gerta, referring to Goethe. I have never heard anyone say Goethe before so in my mind I always read it as sort of Gowth.

“go tee” is how I’ve often heard it but I don’t know the real pronunciation.

It’s ‘gerta’. I had to translate some Goethe when I was learning German in the late 1970s. Our German teacher was pretty keen on Goethe.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:50:07
From: headsie
ID: 714370
Subject: re: "So"

Yeah, nah.

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Date: 27/04/2015 17:55:54
From: party_pants
ID: 714371
Subject: re: "So"

One of the first CDs I ever bought. I’ve lost it now.

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Date: 27/04/2015 18:05:12
From: JudgeMental
ID: 714373
Subject: re: "So"

One of the first CDs I ever bought. I’ve lost it now.

so?

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:09:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 714436
Subject: re: "So"

so shall you sow, so shall you reap

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:24:21
From: Rule 303
ID: 714445
Subject: re: "So"

I too have noticed an abundance of ‘so’ among the desperate end of wanker st.

I have no sympathy for it.

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:39:46
From: transition
ID: 714449
Subject: re: "So"

some contexts it is simply poverty of language etc

other contexts it’s meant to sort of get the attention of the other person, perhaps have the other feel obliged to justify or explain, or entertain

it can also be said completely by itself, in which case it may indicate a number of things, for example ‘why am I here’, along with ‘I wish I wasn’t’.

if you add all three of the above together you sort of get something like make this an interesting experience for me, not much happens in my head without external stimulus, my contempt is growing and wandering, you’re making me feel tired of myself, and I could be somewhere else and not experiencing this.

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:43:38
From: transition
ID: 714450
Subject: re: "So"

oh it can be sort of a pause too while a thought or thoughts are readied to be uttered, yes a sentence might be in the making

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:49:41
From: transition
ID: 714452
Subject: re: "So"

related to that last mentioned, it can indicate to some other person that you are context building, or trying to get a picture, perhaps too it may pass for being thoughtful.

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:57:00
From: Arts
ID: 714455
Subject: re: "So"

so in this case it’s being used as a discourse marker… nothing more

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Date: 27/04/2015 20:59:42
From: Arts
ID: 714456
Subject: re: "So"

The one that seems to get quoted the most is the Chicago Manual of Style, which says:

There is a widespread belief—one with no historical or grammatical foundation—that it is an error to begin a sentence with a conjunction such as and, but or so. In fact, a substantial percentage (often as many as 10 percent) of the sentences in first-rate writing begin with conjunctions. It has been so for centuries, and even the most conservative grammarians have followed this practice.
- See more at: http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/can-i-start-a-sentence-with-a-conjunction#sthash.JCMcQios.dpuf

so there

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Date: 27/04/2015 21:00:52
From: party_pants
ID: 714458
Subject: re: "So"

Don’t give up…

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Date: 27/04/2015 21:11:02
From: transition
ID: 714472
Subject: re: "So"

I re-read the original Q

it may in fact be the same as “errr”

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Date: 28/04/2015 00:03:52
From: tauto
ID: 714543
Subject: re: "So"

so what?

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Date: 28/04/2015 06:56:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 714583
Subject: re: "So"

bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?

¿So what, I do. And I always like to start a sentence with a conjunction.

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Date: 28/04/2015 08:00:24
From: btm
ID: 714591
Subject: re: "So"

And while we’re about it, why have people started only using half-sayings or epithets? Examples:
The love of money is the root of all evil”
“I before E except after C for the sound of E
“The pun is the lowest form of wit because nothing’s beneath a pun

There are many others, but I’ve read or heard these (from people or journalists who should know better) in the last few days. English teachers in England have been instructed to drop any reference to the “I before E” one.

</thread hijack>

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Date: 28/04/2015 08:08:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 714592
Subject: re: "So"

>>I before E except after C

That is the only one I’ve ever heard and I went to school in the fif……… a fair while ago.

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Date: 28/04/2015 08:28:11
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 714594
Subject: re: "So"

Peak Warming Man said:


>>I before E except after C

That is the only one I’ve ever heard and I went to school in the fif……… a fair while ago.

That’s weird.

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Date: 28/04/2015 08:31:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 714595
Subject: re: "So"

mollwollfumble said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Why do some people that have been interviewed by a media person, start their answer to a question with the word “so”?

¿So what, I do. And I always like to start a sentence with a conjunction.

So what’s with the ¿?

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Date: 28/04/2015 09:08:01
From: Speedy
ID: 714605
Subject: re: "So"

I before E except after C is the only one I’ve ever heard too. It would have been good to have know the rest of it, as it would have made remembering all of the exceptions to the rule a little easier.

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Date: 28/04/2015 10:52:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 714649
Subject: re: "So"

The Rev Dodgson said:


mollwollfumble said:

¿So what, I do. And I always like to start a sentence with a conjunction.

So what’s with the ¿?

Spanish question mark, goes at the beginning of a sentence. When I have a multipart sentence in which the first part is a question and later parts a statement I prefer to put a Spanish question mark at the start. I also like it as a way of changing a statement to a question, such as

¿The Sun is made of green cheese

By the way,

¿?

is perfectly good Spanish, the English translation of it is

Huh?

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Date: 28/04/2015 10:54:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 714651
Subject: re: "So"

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

¿So what, I do. And I always like to start a sentence with a conjunction.

So what’s with the ¿?

Spanish question mark, goes at the beginning of a sentence. When I have a multipart sentence in which the first part is a question and later parts a statement I prefer to put a Spanish question mark at the start. I also like it as a way of changing a statement to a question, such as

¿The Sun is made of green cheese

By the way,

¿?

is perfectly good Spanish, the English translation of it is

Huh?

I would have liked to reply with a ¿?, but that all seems perfectly reasonable.

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:04:20
From: Cymek
ID: 714654
Subject: re: "So"

Starting a conversation with So sounds casual and perhaps trying for a familiarity that doesn’t exist

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:04:24
From: Tamb
ID: 714655
Subject: re: "So"

mollwollfumble said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

mollwollfumble said:

¿So what, I do. And I always like to start a sentence with a conjunction.

So what’s with the ¿?

Spanish question mark, goes at the beginning of a sentence. When I have a multipart sentence in which the first part is a question and later parts a statement I prefer to put a Spanish question mark at the start. I also like it as a way of changing a statement to a question, such as

¿The Sun is made of green cheese

By the way,

¿?

is perfectly good Spanish, the English translation of it is

Huh?


Or ferk off.

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:05:56
From: Dropbear
ID: 714656
Subject: re: "So"

DV was a big so’er but we beat it out of him

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:09:55
From: diddly-squat
ID: 714657
Subject: re: "So"

there is a belief that these sorts of ‘disfluencies ‘ are used like audible punctuation to help listeners understand there is a pause coming…

its the way people manage the slight disconnect between what we are saying and what we are thinking, allowing the speaker to pause and catch up.

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:13:43
From: Dropbear
ID: 714658
Subject: re: "So"

diddly-squat said:


there is a belief that these sorts of ‘disfluencies ‘ are used like audible punctuation to help listeners understand there is a pause coming…

its the way people manage the slight disconnect between what we are saying and what we are thinking, allowing the speaker to pause and catch up.

Not many people bother typing “ummm”

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:19:49
From: diddly-squat
ID: 714659
Subject: re: "So"

Dropbear said:


diddly-squat said:

there is a belief that these sorts of ‘disfluencies ‘ are used like audible punctuation to help listeners understand there is a pause coming…

its the way people manage the slight disconnect between what we are saying and what we are thinking, allowing the speaker to pause and catch up.

Not many people bother typing “ummm”

that’s why it’s not used much in text based conversation

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:20:13
From: Tamb
ID: 714660
Subject: re: "So"

Dropbear said:


diddly-squat said:

there is a belief that these sorts of ‘disfluencies ‘ are used like audible punctuation to help listeners understand there is a pause coming…

its the way people manage the slight disconnect between what we are saying and what we are thinking, allowing the speaker to pause and catch up.

Not many people bother typing “ummm”

I wonder if Buddhists type Ommmmm?

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:30:02
From: Dropbear
ID: 714662
Subject: re: "So"

diddly-squat said:


Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

there is a belief that these sorts of ‘disfluencies ‘ are used like audible punctuation to help listeners understand there is a pause coming…

its the way people manage the slight disconnect between what we are saying and what we are thinking, allowing the speaker to pause and catch up.

Not many people bother typing “ummm”

that’s why it’s not used much in text based conversation

My comment was referring to DV using “so” a lot in written speech ;)

Not a hanging crime, sure, but probably fine worthy

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:31:37
From: diddly-squat
ID: 714663
Subject: re: "So"

Dropbear said:


diddly-squat said:

Dropbear said:

Not many people bother typing “ummm”

that’s why it’s not used much in text based conversation

My comment was referring to DV using “so” a lot in written speech ;)

Not a hanging crime, sure, but probably fine worthy

that’s cool… my response was directed at the OP

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:35:57
From: Tamb
ID: 714664
Subject: re: "So"

diddly-squat said:


Dropbear said:

diddly-squat said:

that’s why it’s not used much in text based conversation

My comment was referring to DV using “so” a lot in written speech ;)

Not a hanging crime, sure, but probably fine worthy

that’s cool… my response was directed at the OP

So seems confrontational. Maybe that’s why journos use it in order to provoke a reaction.

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Date: 28/04/2015 11:39:16
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 714666
Subject: re: "So"

JudgeMental said:


One of the first CDs I ever bought. I’ve lost it now.

so?

so, in this case “so” becomes a word for indifference,

the first so becomes therefore

substituting smaller word for larger words?

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Date: 28/04/2015 16:26:51
From: transition
ID: 714830
Subject: re: "So"

and so on and so forth’n so it goes, so so

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