Date: 29/04/2015 05:43:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 714974
Subject: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

I recall someone (or many people) from the old SSSF saying you should never wash beer glasses in a dishwasher. Is this true even in pubs? I can’t see them washing each beer glass by hand.

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Date: 29/04/2015 07:07:00
From: Teleost
ID: 714981
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Pubs use glasswashers. They use very high temperature water and special detergent.

I detest any glasses put in dishwashers. After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour. I can’t drink a glass of water at my MIL’s place as all her glasses are like this.

The detergent for washing beer bottles from the home brew shop is brilliant for glasswear.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:34:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 714985
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


I recall someone (or many people) from the old SSSF saying you should never wash beer glasses in a dishwasher. Is this true even in pubs? I can’t see them washing each beer glass by hand.

They have different types of dishwashers in Pubs.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:36:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 714987
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Teleost said:


Pubs use glasswashers. They use very high temperature water and special detergent.

I detest any glasses put in dishwashers. After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour. I can’t drink a glass of water at my MIL’s place as all her glasses are like this.

The detergent for washing beer bottles from the home brew shop is brilliant for glasswear.

Yes but how many glasses do you wash at home?

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:37:37
From: Arts
ID: 714988
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Teleost said:

After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour.

never happened to any of my glassware

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:39:36
From: poikilotherm
ID: 714989
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


Teleost said:
After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour.

never happened to any of my glassware

Must depend on multiple things like cleanliness of dishwasher/water hardness/TDS/etc etc. Hasn’t happened to ours yet either.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:42:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 714991
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

poikilotherm said:


Arts said:

Teleost said:
After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour.

never happened to any of my glassware

Must depend on multiple things like cleanliness of dishwasher/water hardness/TDS/etc etc. Hasn’t happened to ours yet either.


Some people sill rinse their stuff before they put it in the dishwasher. Some people also sort their stuff before putting it in. Water hardness differs from place to place. Newer dishwashers and detergents may also be improved.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:44:18
From: Tamb
ID: 714992
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


poikilotherm said:

Arts said:

never happened to any of my glassware

Must depend on multiple things like cleanliness of dishwasher/water hardness/TDS/etc etc. Hasn’t happened to ours yet either.


Some people sill rinse their stuff before they put it in the dishwasher. Some people also sort their stuff before putting it in. Water hardness differs from place to place. Newer dishwashers and detergents may also be improved.

Drink wine not beer. Problem solved.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:51:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 714993
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

Must depend on multiple things like cleanliness of dishwasher/water hardness/TDS/etc etc. Hasn’t happened to ours yet either.


Some people sill rinse their stuff before they put it in the dishwasher. Some people also sort their stuff before putting it in. Water hardness differs from place to place. Newer dishwashers and detergents may also be improved.

Drink wine not beer. Problem solved.

Beer comes in recyclable glass.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:54:08
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 714994
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Some people sill rinse their stuff before they put it in the dishwasher. Some people also sort their stuff before putting it in. Water hardness differs from place to place. Newer dishwashers and detergents may also be improved.

Drink wine not beer. Problem solved.

Beer comes in recyclable glass.

And I might add solar panels seem to have bottomed out price wise.

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Date: 29/04/2015 08:58:49
From: Tamb
ID: 714995
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

Some people sill rinse their stuff before they put it in the dishwasher. Some people also sort their stuff before putting it in. Water hardness differs from place to place. Newer dishwashers and detergents may also be improved.

Drink wine not beer. Problem solved.

Beer comes in recyclable glass.


So does wine. Or in recyclable casks.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:11:55
From: Divine Angel
ID: 714996
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


Teleost said:
After multiple trips though, they go a milky colour due to the abrasives in dishwasher detergent scratching them and they develop a distinct odour.

never happened to any of my glassware

Mine neither.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:15:09
From: Arts
ID: 714998
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

we used to have a problem with plastic.. the smell of the detergent lingered.. then I changed cleaning brands and it doesn’t happen anymore… however, at the end of the cycle, I open the door a little and allow the steam to escape and the dishes to dry before putting away this also stops rust forming on the cutlery

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:23:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 714999
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Rust shouldn’t occur unless it has been left to sit too long without drying properly.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:25:40
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715000
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:26:17
From: Arts
ID: 715001
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

tra la!

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:27:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 715002
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

If that is in the instructions?

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:29:39
From: Arts
ID: 715003
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

If that is in the instructions?

I don’t know if it is.. but I do it because I’m a rebel.. I make my own rules

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:31:06
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715004
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

I thought it was just common sense.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:32:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 715005
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

If that is in the instructions?

I don’t know if it is.. but I do it because I’m a rebel.. I make my own rules

That is to be commended if the actions taken are correct. If I recall correctly, it should be in the instructions in microwaves as well.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:32:22
From: Arts
ID: 715006
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

many of my personal rules are common sense…

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:32:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 715007
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


I thought it was just common sense.

Common sense shouldn’t require thought processes.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:33:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 715009
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


many of my personal rules are common sense…

Many men wish all women were so inclined.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:34:51
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 715010
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

with beer glasses, it is the detergent not the dishwasher that is the issue.

detergents leave a film that ruins the beers head.
you’ll find glass dishwashers in hospitality don’t use detergent, but high heat washing

there is a difference between a ‘clean beer glass’ and a ‘beer clean glass’

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:35:48
From: Speedy
ID: 715011
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Most people use too much detergent in their dishwasher. The detergent compartment does not need to be filled.

You can tell if you’re using too much detergent by filling a washed glass with water and checking whether tiny bubbles form at the top.

Most dishwashers require only a teaspoon of the most popular brand powder. The tablets are too big. Either way, this brand is way too caustic for glasswear, crockery or cutlery that is intended for long-term use, as the surfaces become etched and lose their lustre.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:36:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715012
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

I knew it was a detergent issue.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:37:03
From: Speedy
ID: 715013
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Hence opening the door to let the steam escape.

If that is in the instructions?

I don’t know if it is.. but I do it because I’m a rebel.. I make my own rules

I do this as well, but I am rarely in the kitchen at the appropriate time.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:37:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 715014
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

stumpy_seahorse said:


with beer glasses, it is the detergent not the dishwasher that is the issue.

detergents leave a film that ruins the beers head.
you’ll find glass dishwashers in hospitality don’t use detergent, but high heat washing

there is a difference between a ‘clean beer glass’ and a ‘beer clean glass’

Though I don’t use dishwashers. I do use high heat and little or no detergent most of the time. The hotter the water the cleaner the result, the faster the drying time.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:38:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 715015
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Speedy said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

If that is in the instructions?

I don’t know if it is.. but I do it because I’m a rebel.. I make my own rules

I do this as well, but I am rarely in the kitchen at the appropriate time.


It is difficult to control the way others in the house perform.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:39:27
From: Speedy
ID: 715017
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

stumpy_seahorse said:


you’ll find glass dishwashers in hospitality don’t use detergent, but high heat washing

It is the detergent that removes the lipstick though.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:40:27
From: Arts
ID: 715018
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Speedy said:


Arts said:

roughbarked said:

If that is in the instructions?

I don’t know if it is.. but I do it because I’m a rebel.. I make my own rules

I do this as well, but I am rarely in the kitchen at the appropriate time.

my dishwasher takes about 15-20 mins.. and then gives a little beep to tell me it’s done.. that’s when I get one of the kids to open it up

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:41:14
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 715019
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Speedy said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

you’ll find glass dishwashers in hospitality don’t use detergent, but high heat washing

It is the detergent that removes the lipstick though.

no, it is the bar porter/glassy

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:41:32
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715020
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

20 mins? Mine takes over an hour. I have to use Normal wash; the eco wash doesn’t get anything clean.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:43:52
From: Arts
ID: 715021
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

yeah, it’s great.. washing machine also is 15 mins only (on fast/eco wash – which is fine for most things)

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:44:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 715022
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


yeah, it’s great.. washing machine also is 15 mins only (on fast/eco wash – which is fine for most things)

Pays to research well and pay the money fo the quality you desire.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:46:31
From: Tamb
ID: 715024
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


20 mins? Mine takes over an hour. I have to use Normal wash; the eco wash doesn’t get anything clean.

That’s why we sold ours. Takes ages, uses too much water & electricity.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:47:56
From: Speedy
ID: 715025
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Divine Angel said:


20 mins? Mine takes over an hour. I have to use Normal wash; the eco wash doesn’t get anything clean.

Mine takes ages too. I use the heavy duty cycle with an eco/earth brand detergent.

Hand-washed items include:

- plastic
- pots and pans with flour or stodgy residue
- eggy things
- big knives
- wooden items

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:48:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 715026
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

>>the eco wash doesn’t get anything clean.

Like those eco light bulbs, once you put them in you’ve got to wait till daylight to read how to dispose of them responsibly.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:48:58
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715027
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

At the moment the only hand washed things are Little Miss’ bottles and the electric frypan.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:49:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 715028
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Tamb said:

That’s why we sold ours. Takes ages, uses too much water & electricity.

These ere my reasons for refusing to install one. Also that we don’t have sewerage and that we needed to limit what we put in drains we grew food gardens on top of.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:49:33
From: Arts
ID: 715029
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

somethings are worth the money you pay for them.. I think of dishwashers and washing machines (an fact almost ay product that ‘cleans for me) to be worth the extra initial outlay. I bought both the best of the best Bosch I could find and afford.. and the rewards are great.. so far….

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:49:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 715030
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Peak Warming Man said:


>>the eco wash doesn’t get anything clean.

Like those eco light bulbs, once you put them in you’ve got to wait till daylight to read how to dispose of them responsibly.

That one hit the spot, I’ll be chuckling all day. :)

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:50:04
From: JudgeMental
ID: 715033
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

i got some green light bulbs once. was like living in a rainforest.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:50:38
From: roughbarked
ID: 715034
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:51:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 715036
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Arts said:


somethings are worth the money you pay for them.. I think of dishwashers and washing machines (an fact almost ay product that ‘cleans for me) to be worth the extra initial outlay. I bought both the best of the best Bosch I could find and afford.. and the rewards are great.. so far….

Just deserves for doing the research and being willing to pay for what you want.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:51:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 715037
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

Cecily’s not old enough yet.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:52:18
From: Speedy
ID: 715040
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:56:03
From: Tamb
ID: 715044
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

roughbarked said:


Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

Living where I do it’s a one person job. We never dry up. The water evaporates fast enough on it’s own.

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Date: 29/04/2015 09:58:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 715049
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Speedy said:


roughbarked said:

Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

:) scepticism may well be warranted.

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Date: 29/04/2015 10:00:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 715050
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

Living where I do it’s a one person job. We never dry up. The water evaporates fast enough on it’s own.

Yeah I allow them to air dry. Rinse them in very hot water, they dry rapidly.

Bonding, one cooks/one washes.

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Date: 29/04/2015 10:00:47
From: JudgeMental
ID: 715051
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

yeah, me mum was always telling me to dry up.

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Date: 29/04/2015 10:01:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 715054
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

JudgeMental said:


Doing the washing up should be a family bonding thing.

yeah, me mum was always telling me to dry up.

and now you pass that on to me. ;)

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Date: 29/04/2015 13:55:35
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 715181
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

I’m with multiple factors causing the coloration.

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Date: 3/05/2015 22:56:24
From: badchap
ID: 717438
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Is he fety surprised if pubs used no detergents in their glass washers.

It’s important to use a good rinse aid to help remove detergent residues. My glasses go through the dishwasher nicely and have done for many years now. I don’t put crystal in though. I’m told that’s what goes cloudy.
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Date: 3/05/2015 22:59:38
From: badchap
ID: 717443
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

I’d be very surprised …

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Date: 3/05/2015 23:00:55
From: wookiemeister
ID: 717445
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

badchap said:


Is he fety surprised if pubs used no detergents in their glass washers.

It’s important to use a good rinse aid to help remove detergent residues. My glasses go through the dishwasher nicely and have done for many years now. I don’t put crystal in though. I’m told that’s what goes cloudy.
I briefly worked at the coogee bay hotel collecting beer glasses, the glasses were washed by a black fetid liquid that once was water

the only perk was being hit upon by women all night

I had to leave the place was making me sick, bacteria/ virus was streaming through the air con system, it made me sick once then felled me the following week and gave me a cough that lasted three months

stay away from pubs

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Date: 4/05/2015 07:07:55
From: Dropbear
ID: 717477
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

badchap said:


Is he fety surprised if pubs used no detergents in their glass washers.

It’s important to use a good rinse aid to help remove detergent residues. My glasses go through the dishwasher nicely and have done for many years now. I don’t put crystal in though. I’m told that’s what goes cloudy.

Depends how you smoke it

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Date: 7/05/2015 11:53:56
From: badchap
ID: 719114
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

wookiemeister said:

stay away from pubs

ha ha. …that’s funny.
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Date: 7/05/2015 11:56:48
From: sibeen
ID: 719116
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

badchap said:


wookiemeister said:

stay away from pubs

ha ha. …that’s funny.

:)

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Date: 7/05/2015 12:01:50
From: Dropbear
ID: 719120
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Beer glasses get you in trouble.oh sorry that’s goggles

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Date: 7/05/2015 12:02:24
From: poikilotherm
ID: 719121
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

Dropbear said:


Beer glasses get you in trouble.oh sorry that’s goggles

The goggles are only problematic in the morning with with harsh light of day.

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Date: 7/05/2015 12:04:08
From: Dropbear
ID: 719125
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

badchap said:


wookiemeister said:

stay away from pubs

ha ha. …that’s funny.

I found it offensive

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Date: 7/05/2015 12:04:25
From: Dropbear
ID: 719126
Subject: re: Beer Glasses in a Dishwasher

poikilotherm said:


Dropbear said:

Beer glasses get you in trouble.oh sorry that’s goggles

The goggles are only problematic in the morning with with harsh light of day.

Cataracts ?

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