People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative: New Study

Are they calling social conservatives morons?

Rule 303 said:

People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative: New Study

Are they calling social conservatives morons?

Yep.
That study was all over the place during the 2012 US Presidential elections :P
You just imagine the outrage…

Rule 303 said:

People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative: New Study

Are they calling social conservatives morons?

No. “All A is B” does not imply “all B is A”. The study authors acknowledged that that interpretation was likely, and explicitly disavowed it (I read the original article a week or so ago.)

btm said:

Rule 303 said:

People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative: New Study

Are they calling social conservatives morons?

No. “All A is B” does not imply “all B is A”. The study authors acknowledged that that interpretation was likely, and explicitly disavowed it (I read the original article a week or so ago.)

It was discussed in here of all places. ;)

btm said:

No. “All A is B” does not imply “all B is A”. The study authors acknowledged that that interpretation was likely, and explicitly disavowed it (I read the original article a week or so ago.)

I thought this might be closer to a structural relationship like ‘Fox News is not racist, but all the racists watch it.’ where A is not sufficient to explain B, but there’s more there than mere correlation.

As a social conservative I find just the opposite.
I find that we have the smarts without boasting about it and having to compare ourselves with others all the time.
And you will find more compassion and the milk of human kindness in the writings of conservatives like say Winston Churchill than you will ever find in the Borg like bland and cold writings of leftists like say Marx or Adams.

But at the end of the day we’re all climbing the same mountain albeit by different paths.
Except for Wookie, he’s climbing a different mountain altogether

Rule 303 said:

People With Low IQ Tend to be Socially Conservative: New Study

Are they calling social conservatives morons?

They’re saying that only stupid people vote L/NP.

Peak Warming Man said:

As a social conservative I find just the opposite.
I find that we have the smarts without boasting about it and having to compare ourselves with others all the time.
And you will find more compassion and the milk of human kindness in the writings of conservatives like say Winston Churchill than you will ever find in the Borg like bland and cold writings of leftists like say Marx or Adams.

But at the end of the day we’re all climbing the same mountain albeit by different paths.
Except for Wookie, he’s climbing a different mountain altogether

I know what you mean. I watched a bit of a youtube video by Penn and Teller the other day and was immediately struck by their great intelligence presented with quiet modesty.

The Rev Dodgson said:

I know what you mean. I watched a bit of a youtube video by Penn and Teller the other day and was immediately struck by their great intelligence presented with quiet modesty.

Certainly true of Penn.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

As a social conservative I find just the opposite.
I find that we have the smarts without boasting about it and having to compare ourselves with others all the time.
And you will find more compassion and the milk of human kindness in the writings of conservatives like say Winston Churchill than you will ever find in the Borg like bland and cold writings of leftists like say Marx or Adams.

But at the end of the day we’re all climbing the same mountain albeit by different paths.
Except for Wookie, he’s climbing a different mountain altogether

I know what you mean. I watched a bit of a youtube video by Penn and Teller the other day and was immediately struck by their great intelligence presented with quiet modesty.

Well interspersed with, oh fuck.

captain_spalding said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

I know what you mean. I watched a bit of a youtube video by Penn and Teller the other day and was immediately struck by their great intelligence presented with quiet modesty.

Certainly true of Penn.

Even more so of Teller.

Teller, i mean.

Penn Jillette is no fool, either. Read any of his writings.

captain_spalding said:

Teller, i mean.

Penn Jillette is no fool, either. Read any of his writings.

So he just pretends to be an arrogant right wing arsehole to improve their ratings?

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Teller, i mean.

Penn Jillette is no fool, either. Read any of his writings.

So he just pretends to be an arrogant right wing arsehole to improve their ratings?

No. I believe he is only being himself. The only reason Teller puts up with him is so that he doesn’t have to open his mouth.

>And you will find more compassion and the milk of human kindness in the writings of conservatives like say Winston Churchill

Is this the Winston Churchill who ordered the fire-bombing of entire cities in WW2?

Bubblecar said:

>And you will find more compassion and the milk of human kindness in the writings of conservatives like say Winston Churchill

Is this the Winston Churchill who ordered the fire-bombing of entire cities in WW2?

One and the same.

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

Teller, i mean.

Penn Jillette is no fool, either. Read any of his writings.

So he just pretends to be an arrogant right wing arsehole to improve their ratings?

No. I believe he is only being himself. The only reason Teller puts up with him is so that he doesn’t have to open his mouth.

Penn is an avowed atheist, and if you read any of his books, i doubt that you’d think that he’s right-wing.

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

So he just pretends to be an arrogant right wing arsehole to improve their ratings?

No. I believe he is only being himself. The only reason Teller puts up with him is so that he doesn’t have to open his mouth.

Penn is an avowed atheist, and if you read any of his books, i doubt that you’d think that he’s right-wing.

So why does he put on the act?

Anyway it’s not surprising that people with low IQ tend to be conservative, since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect, and most low IQ children presumably have parents of low IQ and are thus raised in conservative households.

The Rev Dodgson said:

captain_spalding said:

roughbarked said:

No. I believe he is only being himself. The only reason Teller puts up with him is so that he doesn’t have to open his mouth.

Penn is an avowed atheist, and if you read any of his books, i doubt that you’d think that he’s right-wing.

So why does he put on the act?

Money talks.

captain_spalding said:

Penn is an avowed atheist, and if you read any of his books, i doubt that you’d think that he’s right-wing.

He’s a right-wing libertarian and free market capitalist, according to Wikipedia.

Bubblecar said:

captain_spalding said:

Penn is an avowed atheist, and if you read any of his books, i doubt that you’d think that he’s right-wing.

He’s a right-wing libertarian and free market capitalist, according to Wikipedia.

Yes, i suppose you could call him what PJ O’Rourke described as a ‘Pants-Off’ Republican.

Anyway, feel free to substitute Alan Jones for Penn and Teller if he fits better.

My views of P&T are based on watching about 30 s of You Tube video, so it’s just possible they may not be that accurate.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Anyway, feel free to substitute Alan Jones for Penn and Teller if he fits better.

My views of P&T are based on watching about 30 s of You Tube video, so it’s just possible they may not be that accurate.

They’re sensible on some issues, silly on others (e.g., they’re fierce opponents of gun control).

Bubblecar said:

They’re sensible on some issues, silly on others (e.g., they’re fierce opponents of gun control).

Regrettably, this also fits the picture of ‘Pants-off’ Republicanism.

The tenets of that are probably summarised in the title of a PJ O’Rourke article: ‘How to Drive Real Fast While Getting Your Wing-Wang Squeezed Without Spilling Your Drink’.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Anyway, feel free to substitute Alan Jones for Penn and Teller if he fits better.

My views of P&T are based on watching about 30 s of You Tube video, so it’s just possible they may not be that accurate.

You could base your views on what American audiences watch.

It very well may be that there is correlation between low intelligence and social conservatism but I think this conclusion is of little value.

OTOH I would be very surprised if amongst people of high intelligence there was any particular bias towards either liberal or conservative mind-sets.

Bubblecar said:

Anyway it’s not surprising that people with low IQ tend to be conservative, since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect, and most low IQ children presumably have parents of low IQ and are thus raised in conservative households.

>>>since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect,

Bubblecar is right

CrazyNeutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway it’s not surprising that people with low IQ tend to be conservative, since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect, and most low IQ children presumably have parents of low IQ and are thus raised in conservative households.

>>>since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect,

Bubblecar is right

I think that’s why many conservatives readily dismiss new ideas, because they have difficulty understanding them,

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Bubblecar said:

Anyway it’s not surprising that people with low IQ tend to be conservative, since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect, and most low IQ children presumably have parents of low IQ and are thus raised in conservative households.

>>>since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect,

Bubblecar is right

I think that’s why many conservatives readily dismiss new ideas, because they have difficulty understanding them,

Or they do it for the money or other personal gain.

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect,

Bubblecar is right

I think that’s why many conservatives readily dismiss new ideas, because they have difficulty understanding them,

Or they do it for the money or other personal gain.

In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

>>>since understanding and embracing new ideas requires a sufficiently competent intellect,

Bubblecar is right

I think that’s why many conservatives readily dismiss new ideas, because they have difficulty understanding them,

Or they do it for the money or other personal gain.

Yes, that happens a lot with many conservatives

Seriously, anyone surprised by this?

added much to the sum total of human welfare and understanding.

ten points.

dv said:

Seriously, anyone surprised by this?

No, Im not surprised we need a new vaccine.

CrazyNeutrino said:

dv said:

Seriously, anyone surprised by this?

No, Im not surprised we need a new vaccine.

Conservatism is horrifying when you see it, its hoped the vaccine will make these people better.

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

dv said:

Seriously, anyone surprised by this?

No, Im not surprised we need a new vaccine.

Conservatism is horrifying when you see it, its hoped the vaccine will make these people better.

We already have one; it’s called a gun!

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

No, Im not surprised we need a new vaccine.

Conservatism is horrifying when you see it, its hoped the vaccine will make these people better.

We already have one; it’s called a gun!

so thats why so many people have one

dv said:

Seriously, anyone surprised by this?

The apparent strength of the relationship is a little surprising to me, yeah.