Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

bob(from black rock) said:

Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

No it just means the person died of bodily failure due to disease of some kind.

Bubblecar said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

No it just means the person died of bodily failure due to disease of some kind.

So it rules out murder or human intervention.

Bubblecar said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

No it just means the person died of bodily failure due to disease of some kind.

Or old age.

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

No it just means the person died of bodily failure due to disease of some kind.

Or old age.

Death due to “old age” does actually mean bodily failure due to disease of some kind :)

Divine Angel said:

Bubblecar said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Does this mean that the person was found dead in bed, without obvious signs of physical violence, and no long standing disease?

No it just means the person died of bodily failure due to disease of some kind.

Or old age.

So old age just means detioriation of 2 or more vital organs/bodily functions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes

I’d argue that a malfunction of an organ isn’t necessarily caused by disease or external force.

Divine Angel said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes

I’d argue that a malfunction of an organ isn’t necessarily caused by disease or external force.

But as that page says:

Old age is not a scientifically recognized cause of death; there is always a more direct cause although it may be unknown in certain cases and could be one of a number of aging-associated diseases.

Yes. Just that it’s not necessarily by disease.

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes

I’d argue that a malfunction of an organ isn’t necessarily caused by disease or external force.

But as that page says:

Old age is not a scientifically recognized cause of death; there is always a more direct cause although it may be unknown in certain cases and could be one of a number of aging-associated diseases.

But it rules out murder, suicide, or accident?

Now there’s an internet name for you DA, Miss Adventure.

bob(from black rock) said:

But it rules out murder, suicide, or accident?

Yes.

Peak Warming Man said:

Now there’s an internet name for you DA, Miss Adventure.

Fitting as I am currently laid up after banging my knee on the corner of the coffee table.

there was maybe a time, before the legal and moral constructions (formalisms) re the subject, when infanticide, cannibalism and death by lion attack may have been viewed as death by natural causes

Divine Angel said:

Yes. Just that it’s not necessarily by disease.

Disease just means a disorder of structure or functioning of some kind, which would obviously apply to any kind of “natural” organ failure.

Is ‘Pissed off the wrong bloke’ a natural cause?

What about ‘Chuck Norris’?

http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/2070/

this seems to have been covered by this thread ages ago

transition said:

there was maybe a time, before the legal and moral constructions (formalisms) re the subject, when infanticide, cannibalism and death by lion attack may have been viewed as death by natural causes

Death by snakebite?

Bubblecar said:

Divine Angel said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_natural_causes

I’d argue that a malfunction of an organ isn’t necessarily caused by disease or external force.

But as that page says:

Old age is not a scientifically recognized cause of death; there is always a more direct cause although it may be unknown in certain cases and could be one of a number of aging-associated diseases.

My mother is 94, and has so many systems starting to fail – heartbeat, breathing trouble, stroke, anemia, gastrointestinal disease, starvation, diabetes, oedema, general weakness etc. that it’s unlikely that we’ll ever be able to pin her death down to a single cause.

Natural causes of death

Of the 147,098 deaths in Australia in 2012, 93% were due to natural causes. These are deaths that were not due to external causes such as accidents, injury and poisoning, or due to ill-defined causes.

In 2012, 81% of natural deaths had more than 1 cause and, on average, 3.2 diseases or conditions were recorded on the death certificate (Table S1).

Factors that may affect the number of causes of death recorded include the person’s age, the underlying cause of death, coding changes and variations in certification practices.

From http://www.aihw.gov.au/deaths/multiple-causes-of-death/

Low blood pressure is the most common cause.

roughbarked said:

transition said:

there was maybe a time, before the legal and moral constructions (formalisms) re the subject, when infanticide, cannibalism and death by lion attack may have been viewed as death by natural causes

Death by snakebite?

I suppose that taken literally all deaths would have natural causes, other than those due to vampires, ghosts, or direct intervention by God or Gods.

As in zero?

bob(from black rock) said:

As in zero?

How about shagged to death by Sophia Loren?