AN Eyre Peninsula innovator has developed a state of the art trapping system to help protect native animals from Australia’s growing feral cat population after receiving a $50,000 grant.
Ecological Horizons director Dr John Read created the trap after spending nearly 20 years of his life trying to control a growing feral cat population.
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Good, hope it works and he makes a quid.
Peak Warming Man said:
Good, hope it works and he makes a quid.
CrazyNeutrino said:
EP man develops cat only trapAN Eyre Peninsula innovator has developed a state of the art trapping system to help protect native animals from Australia’s growing feral cat population after receiving a $50,000 grant.
Ecological Horizons director Dr John Read created the trap after spending nearly 20 years of his life trying to control a growing feral cat population.
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Sounds very good, an ideal device for ridding cats from specific areas. Wish I had one.
PermeateFree said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
EP man develops cat only trapAN Eyre Peninsula innovator has developed a state of the art trapping system to help protect native animals from Australia’s growing feral cat population after receiving a $50,000 grant.
Ecological Horizons director Dr John Read created the trap after spending nearly 20 years of his life trying to control a growing feral cat population.
more…
Sounds very good, an ideal device for ridding cats from specific areas. Wish I had one.
Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I wouldsimply let them go.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
EP man develops cat only trapAN Eyre Peninsula innovator has developed a state of the art trapping system to help protect native animals from Australia’s growing feral cat population after receiving a $50,000 grant.
Ecological Horizons director Dr John Read created the trap after spending nearly 20 years of his life trying to control a growing feral cat population.
more…
Sounds very good, an ideal device for ridding cats from specific areas. Wish I had one.
Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I would simply let them go.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:Sounds very good, an ideal device for ridding cats from specific areas. Wish I had one.
Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I would simply let them go.
My possum trap works quite well for cats. I use fruit bait for possums & meat for cats. The only problem is with Lace Monitors who eat anything & when they realise they are trapped destroy the trap to get out.
A Komodo dragon couldn’t destroy my trap,
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I would simply let them go.
My possum trap works quite well for cats. I use fruit bait for possums & meat for cats. The only problem is with Lace Monitors who eat anything & when they realise they are trapped destroy the trap to get out.A Komodo dragon couldn’t destroy my trap,
why are you trapping possums?
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:My possum trap works quite well for cats. I use fruit bait for possums & meat for cats. The only problem is with Lace Monitors who eat anything & when they realise they are trapped destroy the trap to get out.
A Komodo dragon couldn’t destroy my trap,
I can’t have an industrial strength trap as I sometimes need to get it into the ceiling space to get the possums.
No possums here. Only cats and foxes.
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Because they piss on the ceiling and practice for the FA cup there too.
maybe they need more possum boxes in the surrounding trees
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Stew.
Arts said:
maybe they need more possum boxes in the surrounding trees
They need to possum proof the roof space. That is all it takes. If they can’t get in, they’ll go to someone else’s roof.
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Tamb said:
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Because they get in the ceiling & piddle everywhere.
I release them & repair the mouse wire where they have ripped it off to get in.
Why persist with the mouse wire? Use gal mesh and bolt it on.
sibeen said:
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Stew.
noms
Arts said:
maybe they need more possum boxes in the surrounding trees
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
Arts said:
why are you trapping possums?
Because they get in the ceiling & piddle everywhere.
I release them & repair the mouse wire where they have ripped it off to get in.Why persist with the mouse wire? Use gal mesh and bolt it on.
on this trap.. it’s very neat, however, what happens when scavengers eat the dead cat? will they also be affected?
Arts said:
on this trap.. it’s very neat, however, what happens when scavengers eat the dead cat? will they also be affected?
He does have an antidote but we’d have to ask him if it is passed on to scavengers.
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:Because they get in the ceiling & piddle everywhere.
I release them & repair the mouse wire where they have ripped it off to get in.Why persist with the mouse wire? Use gal mesh and bolt it on.
Yair, I was a bit slack nailing the wire in place. I’ve started repairing with self tappers now but with really hard top plates. ( Don’t know what kind of timber but it’s HARD ) I have to drill first.
Rainforest hardwood. Could be a one of a number of very durable hardwoods.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Why persist with the mouse wire? Use gal mesh and bolt it on.
Yair, I was a bit slack nailing the wire in place. I’ve started repairing with self tappers now but with really hard top plates. ( Don’t know what kind of timber but it’s HARD ) I have to drill first.Rainforest hardwood. Could be a one of a number of very durable hardwoods.
I have said in the past that on a large scale, physical trapping is not a viable option and that only something like introduction of feline disease could work.
This trap is somewhere in between and is an excellent idea.
Of greatest concern is mis-identification. It would be interesting to hear about the trap’s ID success rate. Since our natives are doomed if we choose to do nothing, a very small proportion of trapped natives would still be a success.
Do these traps kill the animals?
Speedy said:
I have said in the past that on a large scale, physical trapping is not a viable option and that only something like introduction of feline disease could work.This trap is somewhere in between and is an excellent idea.
Of greatest concern is mis-identification. It would be interesting to hear about the trap’s ID success rate. Since our natives are doomed if we choose to do nothing, a very small proportion of trapped natives would still be a success.
Perhaps a modified Feline AIDS
Cymek said:
Speedy said:
I have said in the past that on a large scale, physical trapping is not a viable option and that only something like introduction of feline disease could work.This trap is somewhere in between and is an excellent idea.
Of greatest concern is mis-identification. It would be interesting to hear about the trap’s ID success rate. Since our natives are doomed if we choose to do nothing, a very small proportion of trapped natives would still be a success.
Perhaps a modified Feline AIDS
dv said:
Do these traps kill the animals?
the article says that it sprays something on the cats and they go away and groom and then die from the poison .. effective, but my earlier question on what about the scavengers eating the dead cats still stands… unless someone is going around collecting the carcasses, the repercussions to scavenger animals and the soil conditions could be terrible… but I’m sure the good doctor has thought about all that.
Arts said:
dv said:
Do these traps kill the animals?
the article says that it sprays something on the cats and they go away and groom and then die from the poison .. effective, but my earlier question on what about the scavengers eating the dead cats still stands… unless someone is going around collecting the carcasses, the repercussions to scavenger animals and the soil conditions could be terrible… but I’m sure the good doctor has thought about all that.
Their was an interesting documentary on a few years ago about a couple of Aboriginal women who hunted down feral cats in the bush and ate them.
Robots
dv said:
Do these traps kill the animals?
Not until the cat grooms itself.
Srsly what Einstein brought cats to Australia?
flinders had trim.
dv said:
Srsly what Einstein brought cats to Australia?
Gavin Einstein (1760-1800) was the sailor in charge of the ship’s cat on HMS Sirius, the flagship of the First Fleet. He is famous for granting the cat its liberty upon reaching Sydney Cove.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Einstein
They would have got here anyway as soon as sailing ships started landing. Rabbits are another matter being a deliberate introduction but perfectly acceptable at the time.
Pity it wasn’t Arthur Schrodinger.
I suppose it was sheerest luck that felids had been kept on the other side of the Wallace line all this time.
We never got stoats, whereas NZ has a real problem with them.
Why haven’t ferrets become a feral problem in Australia?
Bubblecar said:
dv said:
Srsly what Einstein brought cats to Australia?
Gavin Einstein (1760-1800) was the sailor in charge of the ship’s cat on HMS Sirius, the flagship of the First Fleet. He is famous for granting the cat its liberty upon reaching Sydney Cove.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Einstein
Curve, give Bubbles his handle back!
sibeen said:
We never got stoats, whereas NZ has a real problem with them.Why haven’t ferrets become a feral problem in Australia?
A question I asked on SSSF, the answer as I recall was a rather unsatisfying because the female ferret without a mate dies when it ovulates or something. I thought it unsatisfying as if it was a single female ferret or group of ferrets they would die anyway.
AwesomeO said:
sibeen said:
We never got stoats, whereas NZ has a real problem with them.Why haven’t ferrets become a feral problem in Australia?
A question I asked on SSSF, the answer as I recall was a rather unsatisfying because the female ferret without a mate dies when it ovulates or something. I thought it unsatisfying as if it was a single female ferret or group of ferrets they would die anyway.
More predators in Australia than NZ. They have been released or escaped, but none have prospered.
i have heard it is climate and associated water, habitat, etc.
roughbarked said:
PermeateFree said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
EP man develops cat only trapAN Eyre Peninsula innovator has developed a state of the art trapping system to help protect native animals from Australia’s growing feral cat population after receiving a $50,000 grant.
Ecological Horizons director Dr John Read created the trap after spending nearly 20 years of his life trying to control a growing feral cat population.
more…
Sounds very good, an ideal device for ridding cats from specific areas. Wish I had one.
Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I wouldsimply let them go.
It is very easy to catch cats that are used to people or being around them, as most will readily enter a cage trap set with meat, but very few really feral ones will go near a cage or be interested in the meat, which is why cats are so difficult to control in the bush.
JudgeMental said:
i have heard it is climate and associated water, habitat, etc.
That might be the case in Qld., but in southern parts there is plenty of good habitat for them, however they have never colonised to any noticeable degree.
fig 4 gives an all australia look.
Cymek said:
Arts said:
dv said:
Do these traps kill the animals?
the article says that it sprays something on the cats and they go away and groom and then die from the poison .. effective, but my earlier question on what about the scavengers eating the dead cats still stands… unless someone is going around collecting the carcasses, the repercussions to scavenger animals and the soil conditions could be terrible… but I’m sure the good doctor has thought about all that.
Their was an interesting documentary on a few years ago about a couple of Aboriginal women who hunted down feral cats in the bush and ate them.
Hunting feral cats on foot or with a dog is much easier in the arid interior, as sandy soils clearly indicate their tracks, plus there is not the dense vegetation for them to hide.
JudgeMental said:
fig 4 gives an all australia look.
Which illustrates the lack of habitat in Queensland and the more compatible habitat in the southern States.
which is what i said with the link.
JudgeMental said:
which is what i said with the link.
I don’t think you did. You said the climate and lack of suitable habitat was the likely reason why ferrets have not colonised Australia, but Fig 4 clearly shows that suitable habitat DOES exist, yet still they have not become established.
on a widespread nature like cats and dogs.
JudgeMental said:
on a widespread nature like cats and dogs.
Not at all.
correct.
JudgeMental said:
correct.
Don’t like being wrong do you Boris.
if you actually follow what i originally quoted from you’ll understand. try it.
JudgeMental said:
if you actually follow what i originally quoted from you’ll understand. try it.
Can’t be bothered with your lack of logic Boris, only to say your position has changed 180 degrees. I suppose the only gratification is that you now agree that ferrets are not running wild in Australia and that suitable habitat is not the reason for this situation.
if you say so.
anyway, i hope that answers your question sibeen. basically a lack of suitable habitat.
JudgeMental said:
anyway, i hope that answers your question sibeen. basically a lack of suitable habitat.
It is not a lack of suitable habitat as plenty exists in all southern States, but do carry on with your misinformation.
roughbarked said:
Tamb said:
roughbarked said:Sounds good indeed but I think I’ll stick to my $5 trap for a while yet. It only catches cats and it only once caught a neighbours terrier. I don’t have any other mammals that may wander into it and if they did, I would simply let them go.
My possum trap works quite well for cats. I use fruit bait for possums & meat for cats. The only problem is with Lace Monitors who eat anything & when they realise they are trapped destroy the trap to get out.A Komodo dragon couldn’t destroy my trap,
Photo please, if possible for both. I’d love to see it.
JudgeMental said:
anyway, i hope that answers your question sibeen. basically a lack of suitable habitat.
It’s sort of funny that the one state or territory where they could never be a menace is the only one to ban them.
Ahh, politicians :)
Peak Warming Man said:
Capt’n do you know the max penalty for keeping a Victorian?
Peak Warming Man said:
Capt’n do you know the max penalty for keeping a Victorian?
Slightly off topic. According to the nearest nursing home, the max penalty for keeping a Victorian is $350,000 + $63/day. Much more than for rabbits.
dv said:
Robots
dv said:
Robots
you put up towers 100m high
on the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
party_pants said:
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
you could get 4 sets of AFL goal posts for that… gaffe tape them end to end, she’ll be right…
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
No pet stores can sell cats (or puppies) only registered breeders who can only sell desexed cats , no ads, free to a good home. Every shire and council funded for a cat trapper, all cats destroyed, those cars that are microchipped because they have been purchased legitimately cop the owners a fine for having the cat trapped on public land. Anyone else is allowed to trap and surrender problem cats on their property.
Meanwhile research a disease than can kill or render sterile un vaccinated cats.
bparty_pants said:
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
but you can shoot more than cats
cane toads
foxes
feral dogs
rabbits
pigs
Part of it is social, when people visit and find out that you allow your cat to run free and is not confined should turn up their noses, make it socially unacceptable. As it should be.
No one should have to tolerate your frigging pets on your own property.
wookiemeister said:
bparty_pants said:
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
nobut you can shoot more than cats
cane toads
foxes
feral dogs
rabbits
pigs
>pigs
but what do you do with the motorcycle?
stumpy_seahorse said:
party_pants said:
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
you could get 4 sets of AFL goal posts for that… gaffe tape them end to end, she’ll be right…
Fine with IR-cameras on top of a goal post – say 5-15m high. Hunter with iPad (or similar, approved) can scan the TV pictures to home in on area where they are, then leave it to humans with ordinary lead bullets to stalk and shoot them.
the gov creates a company that makes the shells, cheaper
a cat might attract a short burst of machine gun fire
you might create a shell that bursts before striking so it’s a sure thing to kill the cat
wookiemeister said:
bparty_pants said:
wookiemeister said:
you put up towers 100m highon the tower are cameras that watch the landscape
a heat signature is zoomed in on and a human operator identifies
a machine gun on the tower with a special shell not made from lead is fired
no more cat
you create fire lanes that the towers look down
The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
nobut you can shoot more than cats
cane toads
foxes
feral dogs
rabbits
pigs
In how big a radius? And considering ridges and dead ground how many towers per 100 acres? How much habitat destroyed to construct firelanes?
Cats should only be sold in plain packaging.
then leave it to humans with ordinary lead bullets to stalk and shoot them.
with or without air support?
party_pants said:
Cats should only be sold in plain packaging.
no, with warnings and pictures…
“cats will harm your unborn baby”
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
bparty_pants said:The $50,000 figure quoted in the OP will not get you even one tower half that high.
nobut you can shoot more than cats
cane toads
foxes
feral dogs
rabbits
pigs
In how big a radius? And considering ridges and dead ground how many towers per 100 acres? How much habitat destroyed to construct firelanes?
if you were hard core you could do away with the towers and have a drone that sees them and calls in indirect fire on a cat or fox etc
a drone could watch very large areas
the machine gun could be set up on a truck
or the drone could call in a special drone that’s armed
battery powered recharges when it lands back on truck
during an invasion the dial could be clicked over to men to harass an invading army day and night
wookiemeister said:
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
b
nobut you can shoot more than cats
cane toads
foxes
feral dogs
rabbits
pigs
In how big a radius? And considering ridges and dead ground how many towers per 100 acres? How much habitat destroyed to construct firelanes?
it’s to create a defensive line to stop anymore feral animals crossingif you were hard core you could do away with the towers and have a drone that sees them and calls in indirect fire on a cat or fox etc
Well just build a fence then. Why do you always go expensive and silly?
JudgeMental said:
then leave it to humans with ordinary lead bullets to stalk and shoot them.with or without air support?
Well they’re only mopping up the ones the drones cat get to…
First line of attack in the War on Cats is to have lots of drones flying about. When they find a cat they flit down and grasp their special grasping grasp around the cat’s head. Then they fire rockets to lift them 300m in the air, when rocket cuts out the special grasping grasp ungrasps the cat’s head via a special ungrasping override mechanism and it falls 300m to the ground and (on the 10th attempt) fails to land on it’s feet and is killed.
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
i think we’re all just missing the point here…
Nuke them from orbit…
maybe you put the drones in one spot and they work outwards
wookiemeister said:
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
Ooooooorrrrr, you could build a fence, and use dogs, hunters, traps and baits over a period of a year to clear it of cats at a fraction of the cost of developing and building cat killing drones and erecting guard towers. At the end you have a fence and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained.
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
Ooooooorrrrr, you could build a fence, and use dogs, hunters, traps and baits over a period of a year to clear it of cats at a fraction of the cost of developing and building cat killing drones and erecting guard towers. At the end you have a fence and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained.
Needs some special kind of autonomous fence-laying robot – or it’s just not sexy enough.
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
Ooooooorrrrr, you could build a fence, and use dogs, hunters, traps and baits over a period of a year to clear it of cats at a fraction of the cost of developing and building cat killing drones and erecting guard towers. At the end you have a fence and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained.
*and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained. *
bugger that… introduce a ‘fence checking and mending’ badge into the scouts and girl guides… let the child labour do the work for you…
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
Ooooooorrrrr, you could build a fence, and use dogs, hunters, traps and baits over a period of a year to clear it of cats at a fraction of the cost of developing and building cat killing drones and erecting guard towers. At the end you have a fence and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained.
Needs some special kind of autonomous fence-laying robot – or it’s just not sexy enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQntdqJZnSY
use the unemployed as a living fence.
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
you could have thousands of these armed drones sent into to clear an area
Ooooooorrrrr, you could build a fence, and use dogs, hunters, traps and baits over a period of a year to clear it of cats at a fraction of the cost of developing and building cat killing drones and erecting guard towers. At the end you have a fence and once a week you drive around to make sure it’s integrity is maintained.
Needs some special kind of autonomous fence-laying robot – or it’s just not sexy enough.
And a fence checking drone, whose wire manipulating skills can be used to strangle enemy soldiers.
JudgeMental said:
use the unemployed as a living fence.
“fence for the dole”
JudgeMental said:
use the unemployed as a living fence.
We could employ the unemployed to build the fences – some kind of special evironment corps.
JudgeMental said:
use the unemployed as a living fence.
I wouldn’t mind bush rejuvenation and feral killing as work for the dole schemes.
Fuck me – we’ve all stumbled upon some kind of consensus.
AwesomeO said:
JudgeMental said:
use the unemployed as a living fence.
I wouldn’t mind bush rejuvenation and feral killing as work for the dole schemes.
party_pants said:
Fuck me – we’ve all stumbled upon some kind of consensus.
In which case I retract.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
Fuck me – we’ve all stumbled upon some kind of consensus.
In which case I retract.
You non-consensual bastard!!
shakes fist
unless the cat gets sprayed by the drone instead of a drone
maybe you have a honey pot operation using female cats to lure in male cats
they get nailed as they approach the females
you have thousands of drones swarming over an area for weeks
hunting ceaselessly day and night
wookiemeister said:
AwesomeO said:
JudgeMental said:
use the unemployed as a living fence.
I wouldn’t mind bush rejuvenation and feral killing as work for the dole schemes.
use violent criminals
Not my first choice, I would ask for volunteers amongst the long term who were willing to do a years work, and prepared to work from camps away from home. All sorts of vocational training offered.
you could send them to Africa to wipe out poachers
they walk into a trap
hundreds of armed drones all around them as the slowly but surely walk into the trap
no one gets out alive – though you could always let one go to re tell the horrible story
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
AwesomeO said:I wouldn’t mind bush rejuvenation and feral killing as work for the dole schemes.
use violent criminalsNot my first choice, I would ask for volunteers amongst the long term who were willing to do a years work, and prepared to work from camps away from home. All sorts of vocational training offered.
We could even offer it as a guaranteed minimum wage job, rather than the dole. For anyone that wants work and can put up with the travel. End result, as you say, is lots of vocational training.
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:
AwesomeO said:I wouldn’t mind bush rejuvenation and feral killing as work for the dole schemes.
use violent criminalsNot my first choice, I would ask for volunteers amongst the long term who were willing to do a years work, and prepared to work from camps away from home. All sorts of vocational training offered.
you have thousands of environmental freebie types behind the joystick
they would be guaranteed to make the kill on feral animals
gone
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:
wookiemeister said:use violent criminals
Not my first choice, I would ask for volunteers amongst the long term who were willing to do a years work, and prepared to work from camps away from home. All sorts of vocational training offered.
We could even offer it as a guaranteed minimum wage job, rather than the dole. For anyone that wants work and can put up with the travel. End result, as you say, is lots of vocational training.
Yes, above the dole otherwise no incentive, benefits of being away from home are breaking up bad influences. In one remote working camp there would be vocational training in a real application for admin (payroll and attendance, ties into logistics and communications and time tabling), logistics, stores and resupply, transport and driving, mechanical support, catering, camp support, electrical, water management and waste disposal.
All the while clearing acres of blackberries or whatever which is again, a defined objective and involves training in meeting the objective.
AwesomeO said:
party_pants said:
AwesomeO said:Not my first choice, I would ask for volunteers amongst the long term who were willing to do a years work, and prepared to work from camps away from home. All sorts of vocational training offered.
We could even offer it as a guaranteed minimum wage job, rather than the dole. For anyone that wants work and can put up with the travel. End result, as you say, is lots of vocational training.
Yes, above the dole otherwise no incentive, benefits of being away from home are breaking up bad influences. In one remote working camp there would be vocational training in a real application for admin (payroll and attendance, ties into logistics and communications and time tabling), logistics, stores and resupply, transport and driving, mechanical support, catering, camp support, electrical, water management and waste disposal.
All the while clearing acres of blackberries or whatever which is again, a defined objective and involves training in meeting the objective.
I’ll vote for that.
years ago i did a PEP, can’t remember what it stands for, got $333 a fortnight which was about $80 more than the dole.
party_pants said:
Fuck me –
Um, no.
wookiemeister said:
you have thousands of drones swarming over an area for weekshunting ceaselessly day and night
They’ll knock each other out of the sky.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
you have thousands of drones swarming over an area for weekshunting ceaselessly day and night
They’ll knock each other out of the sky.
Nahh, they got some pretty impressive swarming technology now and it is still early days. Wookies problem is he is running out of money…..and sky.
AwesomeO said:
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
you have thousands of drones swarming over an area for weekshunting ceaselessly day and night
They’ll knock each other out of the sky.
Nahh, they got some pretty impressive swarming technology now and it is still early days. Wookies problem is he is running out of money…..and sky.
Perhaps Wookieworld has a bigger sky and wookienomics ?