Need to replace a roller on the bottom of a sliding glass door.

Difficulty: getting the door out of its track.

No matter what i do, i can’t get it to lift inwards out of the track. Tried ‘lowering’ the rollers using the adjustment screws etc., but it seems that the door frame simply won’t clear the high lip on the inside of the track – needs about 1mm – 2 mm more ‘lift’. Tried pry bar, screwdrivers, timber wedges, everything i can think of. Short of bending something severely, i can’t see how it can be done.

Only other way seems to be to remove the sliding screen door, remove the fixed glass panel, and then the sliding glass door should easily go outwards.

Before hunting for pentagonal security screw bits and attacking the door assembly, does anyone have any ideas, please?

The door/track/frame clearance is usually adequate(just) to get the door out. As the door has been inserted originally there are maybe a couple of things which have changed. Muck build up in the roller mechanism which stops you raising the roller fully. Muck build up in the upper track stopping you lifting the door fully. Frame distorted so try sliding the door to the other end of its travel.
Good luck.

captain_spalding said:

Need to replace a roller on the bottom of a sliding glass door.

Difficulty: getting the door out of its track.

No matter what i do, i can’t get it to lift inwards out of the track. Tried ‘lowering’ the rollers using the adjustment screws etc., but it seems that the door frame simply won’t clear the high lip on the inside of the track – needs about 1mm – 2 mm more ‘lift’. Tried pry bar, screwdrivers, timber wedges, everything i can think of. Short of bending something severely, i can’t see how it can be done.

Only other way seems to be to remove the sliding screen door, remove the fixed glass panel, and then the sliding glass door should easily go outwards.

Before hunting for pentagonal security screw bits and attacking the door assembly, does anyone have any ideas, please?

Normally, the door will lift upwards then you swing the bottom towards you over the bottom runner lip. Sometimes a stop has been put in so that a would be thief couldn’t lift this over the shoddy locks such dors used to have. This could be a self tapper screwed in by a former inhabitant.

nuke it from orbit.

ChrispenEvan said:

nuke it from orbit.

Or use nanothermite.

Actually the anti thief thing is quite possible.

thanks for the ideas, everyone.

There was a couple of big pan head screws through the top part of the frame, obviously to prevent lifting of the door, as roughie, suggested. They came out very early on in the effort.

It’s not the wheel units that prevent the door coming out – it’s the actual metal door frame. The wheel units are a secondary issue, as getting the frame over the track lip is the first hurdle.

Pentagonal driver bits are hard to get. I understand that the CrimSafe screen people use them, and they seem to be almost unique to that firm.

Dunno how i’m going to to this. It’s irksome. because the replacement of the wheel unit is probably a piece of cake, but it’s getting at it that’s the problem. Don’t much want to pay a specialist’s labour rates for something that isn’t really all that difficult.

We just tried ours, it’s not on rollers as such, it’s just on runners. It’s very heavy, heavier than you might think. Are you lifting it right to the top? And the door has to behalf open, not shut.

Tamb said:

The door/track/frame clearance is usually adequate(just) to get the door out. As the door has been inserted originally there are maybe a couple of things which have changed. Muck build up in the roller mechanism which stops you raising the roller fully. Muck build up in the upper track stopping you lifting the door fully. Frame distorted so try sliding the door to the other end of its travel.
Good luck.

My guess is that the track has distorted. How could you check for that?

Speedy said:

Tamb said:

The door/track/frame clearance is usually adequate(just) to get the door out. As the door has been inserted originally there are maybe a couple of things which have changed. Muck build up in the roller mechanism which stops you raising the roller fully. Muck build up in the upper track stopping you lifting the door fully. Frame distorted so try sliding the door to the other end of its travel.
Good luck.

My guess is that the track has distorted. How could you check for that?

Maybe need to check where the top screws were taken out and see if there is a burr inside the frame.

At the bottom of the door, you have the guides that stop the door slipping off the track. It is possible that these have fallen or been reset so they are now too low, thereby stopping you lifting off the door. You need to loosen the screws at the door base to re-adjust in order to remove the door.

Also at the top of the door, the rollers maybe too low and need adjusting up, so again the screws need to be loosened for adjustment.

PermeateFree said:

At the bottom of the door, you have the guides that stop the door slipping off the track. It is possible that these have fallen or been reset so they are now too low, thereby stopping you lifting off the door. You need to loosen the screws at the door base to re-adjust in order to remove the door.

Also at the top of the door, the rollers maybe too low and need adjusting up, so again the screws need to be loosened for adjustment.

Don’t get too fussed if there is no adjustment at the top of the door. Quite often there is only a fixed slider not a roller.

PermeateFree said:

At the bottom of the door, you have the guides that stop the door slipping off the track. It is possible that these have fallen or been reset so they are now too low, thereby stopping you lifting off the door. You need to loosen the screws at the door base to re-adjust in order to remove the door.

Also at the top of the door, the rollers maybe too low and need adjusting up, so again the screws need to be loosened for adjustment.

Should read:
Also at the top of the door, the rollers maybe too high and need adjusting down, so again the screws need to be loosened for adjustment.

Thanks again for all of the ideas.

I’ve tried them all. There’s no rollers or anything else at the top of the door. It’s just the metal frame up there.

And it’s the frame that’s the problem. Nothing i do seems to be able to raise the door panel high enough for that frame edge to clear what really is a very high lip on the track channel.

However, Spalding Jr should be here soon, so i may conscript him into efforts tomorrow, and see if two of us can’t finagle it somehow.

captain_spalding said:

Thanks again for all of the ideas.

I’ve tried them all. There’s no rollers or anything else at the top of the door. It’s just the metal frame up there.

And it’s the frame that’s the problem. Nothing i do seems to be able to raise the door panel high enough for that frame edge to clear what really is a very high lip on the track channel.

However, Spalding Jr should be here soon, so i may conscript him into efforts tomorrow, and see if two of us can’t finagle it somehow.

From my similar experience, it was the small forked guides that had dropped, which normally keeps the door on the bottom track. They are quite small and situated at the base of the door (should be a couple of small screws there). If you loosen the screws and with another screwdriver lift the guide and then retighten the screws, it should give you more clearance to remove the door.

House brick?

Jiggle it around until it comes off

CrazyNeutrino said:

Jiggle it around until it comes off

Has he tried sliding it back and forth?

yes

pull the door open till its half way open

take a grip of the door at and lift it straight up

you should be able to have enough gap to slide the bottom of the door over the wall of the slide

I spy some holes which look as if they might allow access to a screw which probably adjusts the wheel up or down

if you cant clear the bottom try fiddling with that screw?

edit

screws theres a wheel at each end

it’s like people don’t even read the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXC79HeKVRs

How To Remove Sliding Patio Doors

it sounds as if you haven’t lowered the door enough

do you know for sure that when you adjust the door down that its actually lowering the door down?

as someone said check the top of the door

have you tried a different part of the door to try and take the door out? some evil genius might have decided there was only spot you can take the door off the track

Thank you all, but yes, i’m sure that all that can possibly be done to minimise door height etc. has been done.

Having checked all of the suggested actions, it appears to me that it really has nothing to do with wheel units, sliders, height adjustments , preventing screws, or similar. As far as i can see, the actual frame of the door around the glass is simply too large to exit the internal aperture of the door frame. It’s the rigid, invariable frame of the door itself that’s the problem.

I appreciate everyone exercising their grey cells over this, but, we’ll see if two sets of hands can tomorrow accomplish what one set couldn’t today.

I’ll update with the outcome.

Thanks again.

The ceiling area above a large sliding door at my mother’s place has sunken over time. It is so bad that the door is now difficult to open and close. When I’m there, I’m always expecting the glass to shatter. I wonder whether it’s possible for their door to be removed or whether they’d have the same problem as you’re experiencing now.

Speedy said:

The ceiling area above a large sliding door at my mother’s place has sunken over time. It is so bad that the door is now difficult to open and close. When I’m there, I’m always expecting the glass to shatter. I wonder whether it’s possible for their door to be removed or whether they’d have the same problem as you’re experiencing now.

measure the height across the gap for the door, I wonder if you’d see buckling and a pinch point?

wookiemeister said:

Speedy said:

The ceiling area above a large sliding door at my mother’s place has sunken over time. It is so bad that the door is now difficult to open and close. When I’m there, I’m always expecting the glass to shatter. I wonder whether it’s possible for their door to be removed or whether they’d have the same problem as you’re experiencing now.

measure the height across the gap for the door, I wonder if you’d see buckling and a pinch point?

There may still be a sweet spot if it is bent.
I’d be wanting to know what is above the door. Is it bricks? Is there a steel supporting bar across the top? Is it timber?

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

Speedy said:

The ceiling area above a large sliding door at my mother’s place has sunken over time. It is so bad that the door is now difficult to open and close. When I’m there, I’m always expecting the glass to shatter. I wonder whether it’s possible for their door to be removed or whether they’d have the same problem as you’re experiencing now.

measure the height across the gap for the door, I wonder if you’d see buckling and a pinch point?

There may still be a sweet spot if it is bent.
I’d be wanting to know what is above the door. Is it bricks? Is there a steel supporting bar across the top? Is it timber?

Dunno. Brick veneer house. After mum won lotto in about 1987, she splurged and got a new kitchen and this damn door. The rest went on the pokies :/

you could always find a bit of wood that’s slightly too long to fit into the door frame slide where the door sits and hammer it in to hopefully hold the gap wide enough for you to remove the door

I had a sliding glass door in Canberra, I put a bit of dowl in the tracks. Otherwise it was a piece of piss to break in, you could move the door back with your fingers and slip in something thin and flip the catch up.

Speedy said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

measure the height across the gap for the door, I wonder if you’d see buckling and a pinch point?

There may still be a sweet spot if it is bent.
I’d be wanting to know what is above the door. Is it bricks? Is there a steel supporting bar across the top? Is it timber?

Dunno. Brick veneer house. After mum won lotto in about 1987, she splurged and got a new kitchen and this damn door. The rest went on the pokies :/

In a brick veneer house, if there are bricks above the door the building requirement is a steel supporting bar. If it isn’t there then the job was done without proper approval. The shire council would condemn it.

wookiemeister said:

you could always find a bit of wood that’s slightly too long to fit into the door frame slide where the door sits and hammer it in to hopefully hold the gap wide enough for you to remove the door

Yes, that’s what I was thinking.

We’ll need to wait and see how CS goes tomorrow. My guess is that they’ll “shave” the frame by that 1mm ;)

AwesomeO said:

I had a sliding glass door in Canberra, I put a bit of dowl in the tracks. Otherwise it was a piece of piss to break in, you could move the door back with your fingers and slip in something thin and flip the catch up.

Yes. Dowel will porevent any sliding door or window from being lifted and slid. However, a suction cup and remove the plastic beading and the glass comes out unbroken. Enter, steal, put the glass back. Even the cops have difficulty figuring it out.

i hate dumb cops!

roughbarked said:

In a brick veneer house, if there are bricks above the door the building requirement is a steel supporting bar. If it isn’t there then the job was done without proper approval. The shire council would condemn it.

It was all done by a place that specialises in sliding doors, but there’s no way mum would remember who it was. The only times mum’s dealt with her Council since 1970 is to pay her rates. I am guessing she doesn’t care what they think about her door.

there’ll be a lintel as it would be damned hard to keep the bricks in place.

ChrispenEvan said:

i hate dumb cops!

I hate OCD thieves!

though i’ll admit i haven’t seen, or felt, a dumb cop since i left melbourne 30 odd years ago. i wonder if they are still used.

ChrispenEvan said:

there’ll be a lintel as it would be damned hard to keep the bricks in place.

Exactly but the lintel should be steel or a bloody big bit of obvious wood.

ChrispenEvan said:

though i’ll admit i haven’t seen, or felt, a dumb cop since i left melbourne 30 odd years ago. i wonder if they are still used.

The use of “silent cops” has been phased out in Australia, due to changes in the recommended method of performing turns (the introduction of the diamond turn at signalised intersections), and the hazard they posed to motorcyclists and pedestrians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_cop

only ever knew them as dumb cops. but they were a strange idea.

AwesomeO said:

I had a sliding glass door in Canberra, I put a bit of dowl in the tracks. Otherwise it was a piece of piss to break in, you could move the door back with your fingers and slip in something thin and flip the catch up.

probably the best way to do it unless you’ve got screens to stop them coming through the windows

if you want hardcore security you need internal metal shutters that have no means to jemmy off or any screws to access

Might be a silly question but, what is a dumb cop?

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

I had a sliding glass door in Canberra, I put a bit of dowl in the tracks. Otherwise it was a piece of piss to break in, you could move the door back with your fingers and slip in something thin and flip the catch up.

Yes. Dowel will porevent any sliding door or window from being lifted and slid. However, a suction cup and remove the plastic beading and the glass comes out unbroken. Enter, steal, put the glass back. Even the cops have difficulty figuring it out.

nice

didn’t think of that one, will consider that if I have to break in somewhere – ive done jobs in the past where ive had to break into places to get the jon done and get out (as long as you do no damage)

Speedy said:

ChrispenEvan said:

though i’ll admit i haven’t seen, or felt, a dumb cop since i left melbourne 30 odd years ago. i wonder if they are still used.

The use of “silent cops” has been phased out in Australia, due to changes in the recommended method of performing turns (the introduction of the diamond turn at signalised intersections), and the hazard they posed to motorcyclists and pedestrians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_cop

that’s a shame – ive used these dispense justice

I took some hoon person over one once, must have completely shattered the suspension / wheel/ whatever that’s expensive. he had been tailgating me for about 2 minutes on a three lane highway for kicks. I guess I fucked him up, bet he never did it again. didn’t know where he had gone until I saw his headlights come down in my view.

furious said:

Might be a silly question but, what is a dumb cop?

ChrispenEvan said:

though i’ll admit i haven’t seen, or felt, a dumb cop since i left melbourne 30 odd years ago. i wonder if they are still used.

They are, in some instances.

a device in the road to make you not cut corners in turns.

I was at a hospital once and needed to bypass a set of sliding doors with some hidden access button

with no one around I suddenly spied a motion detector on the other side of the door – you could leave but not enter (reverse of the hotel California)

I suddenly realised I could activate the motion detector on the other side I could open the door

grabbing a bit of paper/ magazine I slid it through the crack up to the motion detector and hey presto the doors opened – I had cracked the code and was on to the next level of the game

(any kind of service work is time conscious – security measures and the like are to be considered troublesome and should be bypassed immediately)

I do not think that I have ever encountered one of those…

Speedy said:

furious said:

Might be a silly question but, what is a dumb cop?

imagine a car wheel hitting that at 60 – it can meter out justice quickly

wookiemeister said:

imagine a car wheel hitting that at 60 – it can meter out justice quickly

These were still around when I was a crazy P-plater. Thankfully the car I drove was not mine.

ChrispenEvan said:

only ever knew them as dumb cops. but they were a strange idea.

Remember, they were there to replace an actual cop pretending to be a post with moving arms.

the ones in melb made your car bump similar to a speed hump. didn’t damage your car, but were annoying.

furious said:

Might be a silly question but, what is a dumb cop?

A silent cop, also referred to as a “sleeping policeman” or a “traffic dome”, is a traffic management device formerly widely used in Australia. It consisted of a metal or concrete dome, about 400 mm (16 in) wide and about 125 mm (5 in) tall, embedded in the road surface. They were usually painted yellow and often decorated with retro-reflective glass beads or “cats eyes”. The name has its origins from the Northern Beaches area of Sydney and was derived from the early days of motoring when policemen would be deployed at busy street corners to direct traffic, before traffic signals became widespread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_cop

i know what they were for.

ChrispenEvan said:

i know what they were for.

Well I’m only just catching up on the thread, ;)
There is still at least one silent cop in the town that had the reputation of the only city in Australia without stop lights until relatively recently.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

i know what they were for.

Well I’m only just catching up on the thread, ;)
There is still at least one silent cop in the town that had the reputation of the only city in Australia without stop lights until relatively recently.

bowen has no traffic lights in its central area

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

i know what they were for.

Well I’m only just catching up on the thread, ;)
There is still at least one silent cop in the town that had the reputation of the only city in Australia without stop lights until relatively recently.

bowen has no traffic lights in its central area

but anywhere?

anyway, prior to three sets of lights being installed. All outtside the central area, we were also the city of roundabouts.

What all this has to do with sliding door removal is a bit of a boggle, since sliding doors have to come apart or there is something wrong.

bowen was going to be the capital city of the north

all the roads around the CBD area are huge, the only problem was no on moved there and the capital city thing faded away

sometimes of a night down the streets 9with no street lights) you’ll hear this ghostbusters type siren on a vehicle moving by – that’s the morgue van

if you leave your bin lid with a sliver of a gap of an inch – no bin collection for you

if you haven’t been at your rental house for two weeks and haven’t mowed the grass the neighbours will ring the real estate and dob you in to try and get you in strife

nice people

https://www.facebook.com/Diario24Horas/videos/922855507759511/?pnref=story

if you go down to the woods today ……..

wookiemeister said:

bowen was going to be the capital city of the north

all the roads around the CBD area are huge, the only problem was no on moved there and the capital city thing faded away

sometimes of a night down the streets 9with no street lights) you’ll hear this ghostbusters type siren on a vehicle moving by – that’s the morgue van

if you leave your bin lid with a sliver of a gap of an inch – no bin collection for you

if you haven’t been at your rental house for two weeks and haven’t mowed the grass the neighbours will ring the real estate and dob you in to try and get you in strife

nice people

I was last in Bowen in 1970. It was a tomb in the middle of the day.

wookiemeister said:

if you go down to the woods today ……..

Be careful with whom you play.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

bowen was going to be the capital city of the north

all the roads around the CBD area are huge, the only problem was no on moved there and the capital city thing faded away

sometimes of a night down the streets 9with no street lights) you’ll hear this ghostbusters type siren on a vehicle moving by – that’s the morgue van

if you leave your bin lid with a sliver of a gap of an inch – no bin collection for you

if you haven’t been at your rental house for two weeks and haven’t mowed the grass the neighbours will ring the real estate and dob you in to try and get you in strife

nice people

I was last in Bowen in 1970. It was a tomb in the middle of the day.

it hasn’t changed much

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

bowen was going to be the capital city of the north

all the roads around the CBD area are huge, the only problem was no on moved there and the capital city thing faded away

sometimes of a night down the streets 9with no street lights) you’ll hear this ghostbusters type siren on a vehicle moving by – that’s the morgue van

if you leave your bin lid with a sliver of a gap of an inch – no bin collection for you

if you haven’t been at your rental house for two weeks and haven’t mowed the grass the neighbours will ring the real estate and dob you in to try and get you in strife

nice people

I was last in Bowen in 1970. It was a tomb in the middle of the day.

it hasn’t changed much

Not surprised. It is the place where mangoes.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

I was last in Bowen in 1970. It was a tomb in the middle of the day.

it hasn’t changed much

Not surprised. It is the place where mangoes.

every few years in bowen someone creeps in and poisons vast fields of tomatoes, it might have happened again but ive not recalled seeing it in the paper – maybe they figure by printing the news it gives someone gratification that its being publicised.

agriculture is fairly susceptible to the sneak attack like this

one morning there was this junkie looking woman trying to stop my car presumably needing money from me

bowen is a strange place

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

it hasn’t changed much

Not surprised. It is the place where mangoes.

every few years in bowen someone creeps in and poisons vast fields of tomatoes, it might have happened again but ive not recalled seeing it in the paper – maybe they figure by printing the news it gives someone gratification that its being publicised.

agriculture is fairly susceptible to the sneak attack like this

one morning there was this junkie looking woman trying to stop my car presumably needing money from me

bowen is a strange place

They don’t creep in. They live there.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Not surprised. It is the place where mangoes.

every few years in bowen someone creeps in and poisons vast fields of tomatoes, it might have happened again but ive not recalled seeing it in the paper – maybe they figure by printing the news it gives someone gratification that its being publicised.

agriculture is fairly susceptible to the sneak attack like this

one morning there was this junkie looking woman trying to stop my car presumably needing money from me

bowen is a strange place

They don’t creep in. They live there.

in that case I really don’t know – its a 50/50 thing, it could be a local but if it is they are playing their hand under a good disguise

it could be someone that used to live there and is revisiting the place

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

every few years in bowen someone creeps in and poisons vast fields of tomatoes, it might have happened again but ive not recalled seeing it in the paper – maybe they figure by printing the news it gives someone gratification that its being publicised.

agriculture is fairly susceptible to the sneak attack like this

one morning there was this junkie looking woman trying to stop my car presumably needing money from me

bowen is a strange place

They don’t creep in. They live there.

in that case I really don’t know – its a 50/50 thing, it could be a local but if it is they are playing their hand under a good disguise

it could be someone that used to live there and is revisiting the place

It could also be some dick who fucked up and will never admit it.

I’m no prophet.

However, I do know about tomatoes and the vested interests.

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

They don’t creep in. They live there.

in that case I really don’t know – its a 50/50 thing, it could be a local but if it is they are playing their hand under a good disguise

it could be someone that used to live there and is revisiting the place

It could also be some dick who fucked up and will never admit it.

I’m no prophet.

However, I do know about tomatoes and the vested interests.

to my knowledge its someone putting chlorine in the fertiliser tanks

anyway im off for the night

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

in that case I really don’t know – its a 50/50 thing, it could be a local but if it is they are playing their hand under a good disguise

it could be someone that used to live there and is revisiting the place

It could also be some dick who fucked up and will never admit it.

I’m no prophet.

However, I do know about tomatoes and the vested interests.

to my knowledge its someone putting chlorine in the fertiliser tanks

anyway im off for the night

Depends where they are getting their water from.

Done in late 80’s ?
The nylon wheels have probably had the sword by now.
Not many doors that era had spring loaded wheels.
Bowed lintel is extremely unlikely. Some Brick veneers will tilt outside of bottom track up though as bearers and joists shrink but bricks don’t and the door goes across the cavity.
Some of the older doors had a stile extrusion that also came out at 90°forming a handle.This part of the stile was cut off to run underneath the top track , it also had a small notch in it to allow you to lift it higher.
Those ones you need to pull towards exterior , then lift up .
The extra 2 to 3 mm makes all the difference .
Most doors wont go up enough closed or close to closed. Try half way .
Pics would hhelp.

Brett

if your looking for a cheap set of pentagram bits, head into supercheap and look at their torx bit range, you should find what you are looking for

Thanks, Thomo, stumpy.

Hopefully, it won’t come to the point where we have to dismantle everything from the outside, but i’ll keep it in mind.

captain_spalding said:

Thanks, Thomo, stumpy.

Hopefully, it won’t come to the point where we have to dismantle everything from the outside, but i’ll keep it in mind.

not sure if it applies to your loc but also give it a go early in the morning or on a cooler day? the frame might swell and contract due to temperature

You shouldn’t have to.
Is there a hole 10-12mm hole about an inch up from the bottom of the stile?
That’s where you wind the rollers up and down with a screwdriver . A P2 usually.
On the older doors you have to be Hercules to turn them. lifting the door a bit to take the weight off the rollers and WD40 or even better Inox helps.
Probably checked or suggested but Im a lazy reader
Brett

stumpy_seahorse said:

captain_spalding said:

Thanks, Thomo, stumpy.

Hopefully, it won’t come to the point where we have to dismantle everything from the outside, but i’ll keep it in mind.

not sure if it applies to your loc but also give it a go early in the morning or on a cooler day? the frame might swell and contract due to temperature

Not a chance

stumpy_seahorse said:

captain_spalding said:

Thanks, Thomo, stumpy.

Hopefully, it won’t come to the point where we have to dismantle everything from the outside, but i’ll keep it in mind.

not sure if it applies to your loc but also give it a go early in the morning or on a cooler day? the frame might swell and contract due to temperature

Well, it’s not all that warm here in Toowoomba right now. :)

Those penta screw bits really are hard to find. I’ve got a set of security bits, same as the Toledo Multi Bit Set 33 Pc. – 301096 set on Supercheap’s web pages, and it does for most things, but not pentas. Even their big $58.40 set doesn’t appear to have them.

If push comes to shove, i may just have to get busy on the grinder, and make my own.

captain_spalding said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

captain_spalding said:

Thanks, Thomo, stumpy.

Hopefully, it won’t come to the point where we have to dismantle everything from the outside, but i’ll keep it in mind.

not sure if it applies to your loc but also give it a go early in the morning or on a cooler day? the frame might swell and contract due to temperature

Well, it’s not all that warm here in Toowoomba right now. :)

Those penta screw bits really are hard to find. I’ve got a set of security bits, same as the Toledo Multi Bit Set 33 Pc. – 301096 set on Supercheap’s web pages, and it does for most things, but not pentas. Even their big $58.40 set doesn’t appear to have them.

If push comes to shove, i may just have to get busy on the grinder, and make my own.

i’ve got a Meco set that’s about 22 years old. got them from Autopro

Did you watch Wookies video, Capt’n

Haven’t spotted that video link yet. I’ll check for it, ta.

wookiemeister said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXC79HeKVRs

How To Remove Sliding Patio Doors

Here it is Capt’n.

I thought it good.

have you tried turning it off and back on again?

I did a job like this last year.. wasn’t much clearance to get door out.

Sounds like the house has moved.