AKA Mother of Thousands/Devils Backbone/Alligator Plant/Mexican Hat Plant

A mate gave me a plantlet. Every part of it is poisonous.

Should I -

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

Ian said:

AKA Mother of Thousands/Devils Backbone/Alligator Plant/Mexican Hat Plant

A mate gave me a plantlet. Every part of it is poisonous.

Should I -

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

its a weed, if its eaten by animals it will probably make them sick

Is there any danger of pets or small children coming into contact with it?

Ian said:

AKA Mother of Thousands/Devils Backbone/Alligator Plant/Mexican Hat Plant

A mate gave me a plantlet. Every part of it is poisonous.

Should I -

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

Many plants are very poisonous, the most notable Australian group being Gastropods, from which 1080 poison is produced. So as long as you don’t eat it, or handle it then sticking your fingers in your mouth, you should be alright.

Probly shouldn’t stick it in the garden..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JMkzmNRpm58

Bubblecar said:

Is there any danger of pets or small children coming into contact with it?

Not much.

destroy

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

Weed if let go wild..

Potted should be ok.

How is anti cancer?

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Html/Bryophyllum_daigremontianum.htm

Ian said:

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

Weed if let go wild..

Potted should be ok.

How is anti cancer?

Anything that will kill you, will also kill the cancer. Simple.

Ian said:

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

Weed if let go wild..

Potted should be ok.

How is anti cancer?

go googling – I just saw it being linked that way

unless you have some real need for it, its no more than cultivating a noxious weed

Australia has become covered in weeds from elsewhere – the national parks have been taken over in some places by weeds

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Html/Bryophyllum_daigremontianum.htm

Mmmm.. minor environmental weed in the wild

A weed is any plant growing where it is not wanted. eg Pennisetum alopecuroide is a native grass that is nice in the bush is nice. Pennisetum alopecuroide in your back yard is a weed. Barley in a barley field is nice. Barley in a wheat field is a weed.

“Weed” is not a botanical distinction, just a term useful in the area of human management of plants.

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

blinks

It might be better looking for natural remedies, as weeds are literally everywhere and are of many kinds, some very similar to native species. However, some of those billions might be better spent in finding ways to control our feral pests, many which spread the weeds and others that kill off our wildlife.

chinese apple trees are a weed

lantana is a weed

blackberry bushes are a weed

in Britain stinging nettles are a weed, they are very painful to be touched

I suggest before you go growing this thing – touch it first and then make your mind up

Keep it, keep it safe and keep us informed of its progress.

Ian said:

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

they say its some anti cancer plant

but its a weed

http://keyserver.lucidcentral.org/weeds/data/03030800-0b07-490a-8d04-0605030c0f01/media/Html/Bryophyllum_daigremontianum.htm

Mmmm.. minor environmental weed in the wild

Yes my impression too. I have seen it around Lightning Ridge where it is not in large numbers. Although having it in a garden setting with better growing conditions, it could create a problem with its method of vegetative reproduction.

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

blinks

It might be better looking for natural remedies, as weeds are literally everywhere and are of many kinds, some very similar to native species. However, some of those billions might be better spent in finding ways to control our feral pests, many which spread the weeds and others that kill off our wildlife.

no problem – a few billion would be thrown at eradicating feral animals such as foxes, cat, dogs, cane toads, pigs etc – you could somehow neuter the animals and allow nature take its course as cats, dogs,pigs and foxes secure territories without being able to reproduce

the other problem are rabbits – without other predators they could explode

horses and camels I’m not sure – it seems malicious to harm them

there needs to be a harmless way to affect the breeding cycle of feral animals

>I suggest before you go growing this thing – touch it first and then make your mind up

I have handled it a few times without ill effect.

I’m not keen on weeds at all.. Have my own personal list of 279 weeds that DO NOT LIKE.. I spend hours and hours dedicated to eliminating/controlling them.. mutter mutter fkn Moth Vine!

Burn it

CrazyNeutrino said:

Burn it

In a bong

why not grow some aloe vera instead

I might cultivate myself when I get back to the house

just imagine how conditioned your skin would become as you moisturise every part of you body with it

wookiemeister said:

PermeateFree said:

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

blinks

It might be better looking for natural remedies, as weeds are literally everywhere and are of many kinds, some very similar to native species. However, some of those billions might be better spent in finding ways to control our feral pests, many which spread the weeds and others that kill off our wildlife.

no problem – a few billion would be thrown at eradicating feral animals such as foxes, cat, dogs, cane toads, pigs etc – you could somehow neuter the animals and allow nature take its course as cats, dogs,pigs and foxes secure territories without being able to reproduce

the other problem are rabbits – without other predators they could explode

horses and camels I’m not sure – it seems malicious to harm them

there needs to be a harmless way to affect the breeding cycle of feral animals

Ummmmm.

One of the reasons foxes and cats were brought to Australia was to control rabbits. Unfortunately they were not very good and we had rabbit plagues until they introduced myxomatosis and later calicivirus.

Horses and Camels are very destructive, as they are large animals, as are their needs. The trampling from horses is particularly bad.

>The trampling from horses is particularly bad.

Ooh.. that can hurt

Ian said:

>The trampling from horses is particularly bad.

Ooh.. that can hurt

My experience with wild horses is in herbfields and peatbogs of semi-Alpine regions in NE Victoria, plus equally sensitive areas around salt/gypsum lakes in WA. They can make a real mess.

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

>The trampling from horses is particularly bad.

Ooh.. that can hurt

My experience with wild horses is in herbfields and peatbogs of semi-Alpine regions in NE Victoria, plus equally sensitive areas around salt/gypsum lakes in WA. They can make a real mess.

peatbogs = sphagnum bogs

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

Most weeds are good for composting

Ian said:

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

I would get rid of it, but you’ve already made up your mind. Why don’t you tell us what you’re going to do?

Ian said:

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

I would get rid of it, but you’ve already made up your mind. Why don’t you tell us what you’re going to do?

Speedy said:

Ian said:

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

I would get rid of it, but you’ve already made up your mind. Why don’t you tell us what you’re going to do?

Yes. I’ve been asking myself that..

Bloody amazing looking specimen.. thought it might be of interest..

Speedy said:

Ian said:

1. Stick in pot and watch it do its thing OR

2. Terminate it with extreme predudice?

I would get rid of it, but you’ve already made up your mind. Why don’t you tell us what you’re going to do?

Why not give it away or sell it in a garage sale or just put it on the sidewalk with a poisonous sign and a free sign

My mate’s plant is much biggerer and weirderer than this.

Ian said:

My mate’s plant is much biggerer and weirderer than this.

I wonder what RB will say?

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

Most weeds are good for composting

and spreading themselves far and wide through the compost

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

if I had my way in government I’d throw a few billion dollars building machines to eradicate weeds from the country

Most weeds are good for composting

and spreading themselves far and wide through the compost

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Most weeds are good for composting

and spreading themselves far and wide through the compost

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

and spreading themselves far and wide through the compost

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

You get triffids.

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

You get triffids.

only people in subs would be safe

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

and spreading themselves far and wide through the compost

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

Commercial manure and compost is meant to be weed free, I suppose you’d need to put it to the test

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

You get triffids.

Triffids which take over your body

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Not if the seeds are killed from the heat generated during composting

if that happened im sure it would be fine, but what if it doesn’t?

Commercial manure and compost is meant to be weed free, I suppose you’d need to put it to the test

it would be better not to grow it and burn any compost it makes, that makes sure its dead

I’ve been gradually eradicating some feral Mother of Millions for years here (chemically and manually) that the previous owner planted. It is a declared noxious weed in NSW but not that difficult to control.

A single Kalanchoe should be no worries.

Gastropods, from which 1080 poison is produced.

close. Gastrolobium.

ChrispenEvan said:

Gastropods, from which 1080 poison is produced.

close. Gastrolobium.

Plants are gastropods too!

Plants are gastropods too!

only the ones with shells.

ChrispenEvan said:

Gastropods, from which 1080 poison is produced.

close. Gastrolobium.

Yes silly me.

Ian said:

I’ve been gradually eradicating some feral Mother of Millions for years here (chemically and manually) that the previous owner planted. It is a declared noxious weed in NSW but not that difficult to control.

A single Kalanchoe should be no worries.

Used to have a “mother of millions” in NSW but it was no trouble at all in a pot. Last time I checked it was only a significant problem in Qld. A lot of weeds are only a serious risk in quite localised parts of Australia and harmless outside that range.

On rare occasions I have been tempted to cultivate a toxic plant and to try to chemically extract poisons from it for identification. Many plants that are considered poisonous are fairly safe – saponins are found in hundreds of species and although toxic if eaten raw they can be made harmless by correct processing. I’ve eaten oleander with no ill effects. I often eat lantana berries with no ill-effects. Both are considered toxic. Plants I don’t eat include castor oil seeds (ricin poison) and I avoid eating plants raw that contain alkaloids.

The book “poisonous plants of australia” (1974) is a good read.

Ian said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Burn it

In a bong

There’s better weed for that.

mollwollfumble said:

Ian said:

I’ve been gradually eradicating some feral Mother of Millions for years here (chemically and manually) that the previous owner planted. It is a declared noxious weed in NSW but not that difficult to control.

A single Kalanchoe should be no worries.

Used to have a “mother of millions” in NSW but it was no trouble at all in a pot. Last time I checked it was only a significant problem in Qld. A lot of weeds are only a serious risk in quite localised parts of Australia and harmless outside that range.

On rare occasions I have been tempted to cultivate a toxic plant and to try to chemically extract poisons from it for identification. Many plants that are considered poisonous are fairly safe – saponins are found in hundreds of species and although toxic if eaten raw they can be made harmless by correct processing. I’ve eaten oleander with no ill effects. I often eat lantana berries with no ill-effects. Both are considered toxic. Plants I don’t eat include castor oil seeds (ricin poison) and I avoid eating plants raw that contain alkaloids.

The book “poisonous plants of australia” (1974) is a good read.

I am at a loss as to why you’d think oleander could be palatable enough to bother.

Daigremontianin is a bufadienolide. Bufadienolides are steroids and cardiac glycoside aglycones (meaning that they bind with carbohydrates to form cardiac glycosides) that are similar to cardenolides, differing only in the structure of the C-17 substituent on the D ring. This chemical has been found to be toxic in experiments on mice. It is one of five bufadienolides that have been isolated from Kalanchoe daigremontiana.

In traditional medicine Kalanchoe species are used to treat several ailments, e.g. infections, rheumatism and inflammation. Kalanchoe sp. extracts have immonosuppressive effects. Two of the five Kalanchoe daigremontiana glycosides – daigremontianin and bersaldegenin 1,3,5-orthoacetate have shown to have sedative effect and with an increase in the dose an increasing effect on the central nervous system besides having strong positive inotropic effect associated with cardiac glycosides.

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Interesting.

If you’re interested molly I can send you some Kalanchoe to play with.

Also, I have about 10 acres of Lantana that you’re more than welcome to come and munch on :)

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

Ian said:

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

ok, I have never seen one before, yes it is kissable, but is it safe to kiss?

Ian said:

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

There are a number of plants noted for their sexuality.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Ian said:

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

ok, I have never seen one before, yes it is kissable, but is it safe to kiss?

You are being asked, would you like to try. :)

CrazyNeutrino said:

Ian said:

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

!https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/b7/df/0cb7dfacfc5b97b353e9bada822f9ebd.jpg

ok, I have never seen one before, yes it is kissable, but is it safe to kiss?

Well.. It’s loaded with DMT.. so be my guest… but hey, it’s your own trip…

Ian said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Ian said:

Skipping to the next page, I stumbled upon The Most Kissable Plant – Psychotria Elata (Order – Gentianales)

!https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/0c/b7/df/0cb7dfacfc5b97b353e9bada822f9ebd.jpg

ok, I have never seen one before, yes it is kissable, but is it safe to kiss?

Well.. It’s loaded with DMT.. so be my guest… but hey, it’s your own trip…

hmmm

DMT what does that do?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Ian said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

ok, I have never seen one before, yes it is kissable, but is it safe to kiss?

Well.. It’s loaded with DMT.. so be my guest… but hey, it’s your own trip…

hmmm

DMT what does that do?

If you don’t know. It is probably better if you don’t test it.

I mean to say Don’tMindTerminology,
Unless it means forgetting it.