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Martial arts fighter Shaun McNeil found not guilty of one-punch murder of teenager Daniel Christie on New Year’s Eve

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wookiemeister said:

Martial arts fighter Shaun McNeil found not guilty of one-punch murder of teenager Daniel Christie on New Year’s Eve

I have to say, after reporting a road rage incident to my local police (and following up three times since) back in February, to discover they have taken no action at all, I am slightly regretful I didn’t just punch the idiot senseless at the time. I don’t agree with Capital punishment, but I could have made an exception in his case..

its going to get problematic if violent dangerous people aren’t taken out of society

it wouldn’t be a bad idea if the family of the victim just whacked the fellah in the street when he gets out

as long it can be proven that you didn’t premeditate the killing its ok – you can get a slap on the wrist – you might even get away without a fine

Rule 303 said:

wookiemeister said:

Martial arts fighter Shaun McNeil found not guilty of one-punch murder of teenager Daniel Christie on New Year’s Eve

I have to say, after reporting a road rage incident to my local police (and following up three times since) back in February, to discover they have taken no action at all, I am slightly regretful I didn’t just punch the idiot senseless at the time. I don’t agree with Capital punishment, but I could have made an exception in his case..

If you are in the position to give someone breaking into you home a hiding take it, its the only justice you’ll get

Can scientists spot a pedophile? Study claims they are more likely to have physical deformities and be left-handed

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this is starting to sound a little like phrenology

Cymek said:

Rule 303 said:

wookiemeister said:

Martial arts fighter Shaun McNeil found not guilty of one-punch murder of teenager Daniel Christie on New Year’s Eve

I have to say, after reporting a road rage incident to my local police (and following up three times since) back in February, to discover they have taken no action at all, I am slightly regretful I didn’t just punch the idiot senseless at the time. I don’t agree with Capital punishment, but I could have made an exception in his case..

If you are in the position to give someone breaking into you home a hiding take it, its the only justice you’ll get

I believe so

just wrap them off at the local police station wrapped up in a carpet

wookiemeister said:

Can scientists spot a pedophile? Study claims they are more likely to have physical deformities and be left-handed

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this is starting to sound a little like phrenology

At the courts I can often pick them out before I read their paperwork, some of them have weird mannerisms, almost deliberate like they are wary people might be watching them.

Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

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doesn’t actually mean the complete opposite? you are more likely to be right handed not left handed?

wookiemeister said:

doesn’t actually mean the complete opposite? you are more likely to be right handed not left handed?

I read it the other way – You are more likely than general public to be left handed, but not more likely to be left handed than right.

A general public person is about 10% likely to be left handed, so if this type of person is 35% likely, they’re more likely than that, but not >50%, which would be more likely than not.

Rule 303 said:

wookiemeister said:

doesn’t actually mean the complete opposite? you are more likely to be right handed not left handed?

I read it the other way – You are more likely than general public to be left handed, but not more likely to be left handed than right.

A general public person is about 10% likely to be left handed, so if this type of person is 35% likely, they’re more likely than that, but not >50%, which would be more likely than not.

I reckon there will be a number of men who already feel ill at ease because of their stature and minor deformities, are going to feel a great deal worse after reading this questionable research.

wookiemeister said:

Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

Which bits

wookiemeister said:

Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

Which bits

how come he was found not guilty

did he hand some cash to the judge

haven’t other people been found guilty of one punch deaths and sent to jail

we need some consistency with outcomes of murder trials

wookiemeister said:

Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

Which bits of a paedophile go towards the 30-35 per cent. Is it ,like two legs and an arm? Are most of them right-handed anyway, because the other 65 – 70% says ‘no, use the right hand?’.

captain_spalding said:

wookiemeister said:

Interestingly, like the latest study, Dr Cantor discovered that 30 to 35 per cent of paedophiles are left-handed.

Which bits of a paedophile go towards the 30-35 per cent. Is it ,like two legs and an arm? Are most of them right-handed anyway, because the other 65 – 70% says ‘no, use the right hand?’.

35 percent is the bit that is missing

their brain

Cymek said:

wookiemeister said:

Can scientists spot a pedophile? Study claims they are more likely to have physical deformities and be left-handed

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this is starting to sound a little like phrenology

At the courts I can often pick them out before I read their paperwork, some of them have weird mannerisms, almost deliberate like they are wary people might be watching them.

the few times I have ever met suspected pedos they do have a strange manner about them

one character was from new Zealand (supposedly some kind of teacher – though he didn’t elaborate) , he turned up at the moshav I worked at in Palestine – after a short time he casually started a conversation – which I thought strange because he didn’t normally start conversations, we were also alone.

he was talking about the community and about the kids – my thoughts did initially start ringing a small bell in my head but they subsided a little, then he makes the comment “the Israelis are very protective about their kids aren’t they?” I thought this a bit of a strange thing to say, then he goes on a bit about the kids – I replied cautiously – “well I suppose all parents are protective of their children” – thinking WTF are you going on about?

the route to the volunteers house where I was staying was linked to the house had a single path that led through the houses of the Israelis and presumably also their children.

then he quickly follows up with the statement “but I always stick to the path, I always stay to the path”

I must have been giving him a bit of a hard stare because he shut up

“oh right – right” I said

a few days later I happened to be in the kitchen with the two south Africans who were staying there. we were talking about this and that – they told me about getting into strife with the Palestinians when they were in the fields – I told them in no uncertain terms to be very careful because they would more than likely turn up with knives the following day – which they laughed off (they were indeed threatened with knives the following day). I then delicately asked them “so have you ever spoken to that new Zealand fellow?”

without missing a beat one them says “we’ve had that conversation with him”

“was he talking about kids” I asked

yes

hmmmm

he was talking about staying to the path – does that strike you as being a bit odd

he had this weird conversation with us when he first arrived

anyway after more mentions they didn’t want to get too involved with this subject – cant blame them

the bloke was sharing the room with me – thankfully it was a big room – he rarely spoke to me after that unless I asked him what he normally did

many of the people you find in Palestine as backpackers in moshavs are running from the law in some capacity

later on had in with some private school boy and some nasty bit of work from new Zealand, after cornering me in the kitchen they tried it on and were in half minds to try and rape me in my bedroom where I was eating – unlucky for them – when I realised who the fuck I was sharing a room with I had hidden a nice handy club hammer near my bed

when they kicked the door in yelling and screaming I silently eye balled them whilst slowly slipping my hand down to the club hammer handle

I had already spent some time doing agricultural work and was fairly beefy – I’m amazed they even tried it on, I’d have caved the kiwis head in as he was the more powerful of the two – the kiwis (always white) i’ve met in these situations are very nasty pieces of work – vicious you’d have to work quickly without hesitation because you wouldn’t get a second chance – the private school boy was mouthy – I’d have dealt with him second

after the stand off of me silently watching them silently in my own room as they went off their rocks at me I told the kiwi chick who lived there – also some kind of sexual deviant – never to bring them around again or there would be trouble. I told the south Africans about the encounter – they told me they didn’t like them and hadn’t seen them much – the south Africans were out at the time

in my past I have found very dangerous people do have some traits about them

they normally target younger people because older people recognise the warning signs and will be two steps ahead

PermeateFree said:

Rule 303 said:

wookiemeister said:

doesn’t actually mean the complete opposite? you are more likely to be right handed not left handed?

I read it the other way – You are more likely than general public to be left handed, but not more likely to be left handed than right.

A general public person is about 10% likely to be left handed, so if this type of person is 35% likely, they’re more likely than that, but not >50%, which would be more likely than not.

I reckon there will be a number of men who already feel ill at ease because of their stature and minor deformities, are going to feel a great deal worse after reading this questionable research.

its sounds like bullshit – even though I don’t fit any of those characteristics

>Previous research has found paedophiles tend to be between 10 and 15 IQ points lower than average. They are also typically 2.3cm shorter in height than a typical male.

Wonder why they chose to illustrate that story with Jimmy Savile, who was of average height and a Mensa member.

CrazyNeutrino said:

how come he was found not guilty

did he hand some cash to the judge

haven’t other people been found guilty of one punch deaths and sent to jail

we need some consistency with outcomes of murder trials

its why mandatory sentences are being created – the judges are no longer to pass sentence

let them deal with speeding fines – they are the only ones they can be trusted with

Bubblecar said:

>Previous research has found paedophiles tend to be between 10 and 15 IQ points lower than average. They are also typically 2.3cm shorter in height than a typical male.

Wonder why they chose to illustrate that story with Jimmy Savile, who was of average height and a Mensa member.

the whole article sounds suspect from start to finish

Bubblecar said:

>Previous research has found paedophiles tend to be between 10 and 15 IQ points lower than average. They are also typically 2.3cm shorter in height than a typical male.

Wonder why they chose to illustrate that story with Jimmy Savile, who was of average height and a Mensa member.

Can’t get them all right. :)

wookiemeister said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

how come he was found not guilty

did he hand some cash to the judge

haven’t other people been found guilty of one punch deaths and sent to jail

we need some consistency with outcomes of murder trials

its why mandatory sentences are being created – the judges are no longer to pass sentence

let them deal with speeding fines – they are the only ones they can be trusted with

Mandatory sentences create injustices and headlines like 18 year old sentenced to 10 years in prison for shoplifting can of coke.

Bubblecar said:

>Previous research has found paedophiles tend to be between 10 and 15 IQ points lower than average. They are also typically 2.3cm shorter in height than a typical male.

Wonder why they chose to illustrate that story with Jimmy Savile, who was of average height and a Mensa member.

I wonder if other Mensa members knew of his behavior?

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

how come he was found not guilty

did he hand some cash to the judge

haven’t other people been found guilty of one punch deaths and sent to jail

we need some consistency with outcomes of murder trials

its why mandatory sentences are being created – the judges are no longer to pass sentence

let them deal with speeding fines – they are the only ones they can be trusted with

Mandatory sentences create injustices and headlines like 18 year old sentenced to 10 years in prison for shoplifting can of coke.

if you hit someone in the face deliberately after also attacking other people that night – expect at least ten years prison no parole

how many other people has he injured?

how many people will he go on to kill when they let him out

ive met these sorts of characters before – they never change – they’ve got a screw lose – put them in gaol. years ago theyd bang people up in mental institutions for the criminally insane – then Margaret thatcher let them all out because she said we couldn’t afford to keep them in gaol.

wookiemeister said:

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

its why mandatory sentences are being created – the judges are no longer to pass sentence

let them deal with speeding fines – they are the only ones they can be trusted with

Mandatory sentences create injustices and headlines like 18 year old sentenced to 10 years in prison for shoplifting can of coke.

if you hit someone in the face deliberately after also attacking other people that night – expect at least ten years prison no parole

how many other people has he injured?

how many people will he go on to kill when they let him out

ive met these sorts of characters before – they never change – they’ve got a screw lose – put them in gaol. years ago theyd bang people up in mental institutions for the criminally insane – then Margaret thatcher let them all out because she said we couldn’t afford to keep them in gaol.

All well and good, but justice is not served by removing judges discretion. No set of circumstances is the same.

wookiemeister said:

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

its why mandatory sentences are being created – the judges are no longer to pass sentence

let them deal with speeding fines – they are the only ones they can be trusted with

Mandatory sentences create injustices and headlines like 18 year old sentenced to 10 years in prison for shoplifting can of coke.

if you hit someone in the face deliberately after also attacking other people that night – expect at least ten years prison no parole

how many other people has he injured?

how many people will he go on to kill when they let him out

ive met these sorts of characters before – they never change – they’ve got a screw lose – put them in gaol. years ago theyd bang people up in mental institutions for the criminally insane – then Margaret thatcher let them all out because she said we couldn’t afford to keep them in gaol.

this person killed someone starting off in life who was also making gestures that he didn’t want a fight

he was an easy target

me

I’d keep him gaol for life – but that’s just me

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

AwesomeO said:

Mandatory sentences create injustices and headlines like 18 year old sentenced to 10 years in prison for shoplifting can of coke.

if you hit someone in the face deliberately after also attacking other people that night – expect at least ten years prison no parole

how many other people has he injured?

how many people will he go on to kill when they let him out

ive met these sorts of characters before – they never change – they’ve got a screw lose – put them in gaol. years ago theyd bang people up in mental institutions for the criminally insane – then Margaret thatcher let them all out because she said we couldn’t afford to keep them in gaol.

All well and good, but justice is not served by removing judges discretion. No set of circumstances is the same.

years ago I’d have agreed with you

that fact is many lunatics are getting out time after time and killing people. maiming people. getting banged up for killing someone is an occupational hazard

wookiemeister said:

AwesomeO said:

wookiemeister said:

if you hit someone in the face deliberately after also attacking other people that night – expect at least ten years prison no parole

how many other people has he injured?

how many people will he go on to kill when they let him out

ive met these sorts of characters before – they never change – they’ve got a screw lose – put them in gaol. years ago theyd bang people up in mental institutions for the criminally insane – then Margaret thatcher let them all out because she said we couldn’t afford to keep them in gaol.

All well and good, but justice is not served by removing judges discretion. No set of circumstances is the same.

years ago I’d have agreed with you

that fact is many lunatics are getting out time after time and killing people. maiming people. getting banged up for killing someone is an occupational hazard

I am no sentencing softcock, I just don’t agree with mandatory sentencing. I agree many sentences appear on the face of it to be overly lenient and parole too easily granted or inappropriately administered.

most people who pronounce on sentencing don’t bother to read the court transcripts so have no idea what they are talking about. they also know little of how the judicial system works.

ChrispenEvan said:

most people who pronounce on sentencing don’t bother to read the court transcripts so have no idea what they are talking about. they also know little of how the judicial system works.

+1

ChrispenEvan said:

most people who pronounce on sentencing don’t bother to read the court transcripts so have no idea what they are talking about. they also know little of how the judicial system works.

That doesn’t apply in Wookieworld.

90 killed in single-punch assaults since 2000

‘‘One-punch’‘ assaults have cost 90 Australian lives since 2000, most in booze-fuelled bashings, a study has found.

Each victim was killed by a single blow to the head or when they fell unconscious, striking their skull against the ground.

Jennifer Pilgrim, a researcher at Monash University’s department of forensic medicine, said alcohol was involved in almost three-quarters of deaths recorded between 2000 and last year.
Killed: Thomas Kelly.

Dr Pilgrim said the majority of victims were knocked unconscious when they were at a licensed venue, outside the venue or on their way home.

more…

Witty Rejoinder said:

ChrispenEvan said:

most people who pronounce on sentencing don’t bother to read the court transcripts so have no idea what they are talking about. they also know little of how the judicial system works.

That doesn’t apply in Wookieworld.

it was murder

once you’ve redefined it you then walk the sentence backwards

its baby steps

search for one punch deaths convictions in Australia

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+punch+deaths+convictions+in+australia

CrazyNeutrino said:

search for one punch deaths convictions in Australia

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+punch+deaths+convictions+in+australia

didn’t see any sentences

of the court doesn’t want mandatory sentencing – they cant make any more money out of the person who does this on a regular basis

A WELL-CONNECTED law clerk has escaped punishment after a cowardly king-hit in a pub which a lenient magistrate has said was not “gratuitous violence”, sparking concern at the highest levels of government and outrage among anti-violence campaigners.

In letting Virgil Macquarie Power, 29, off without a conviction, Magistrate Bernadette Callaghan also scoffed at campaigns against coward punches being prioritised over domestic violence, which she said was more common.

Ms Callaghan concluded Power’s single violent punch, which caused almost $24,000 damage to his victim’s face, was not an example of “gratuitous violence”.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/coward-punch-offender-gets-off-with-slap-on-the-wrist-and-magistrate-takes-swipe-at-one-punch-campaigns/story-fnihsrf2-1226859631804

the devil looks after his own

wookiemeister said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

search for one punch deaths convictions in Australia

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+punch+deaths+convictions+in+australia

third link in the list

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-02/man-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-jail-for-fatal-punch/5785190

didn’t see any sentences

of the court doesn’t want mandatory sentencing – they cant make any more money out of the person who does this on a regular basis

when you allowing people to attack strangers in public and get away with it – disfiguring their face – society has officially collapsed

CrazyNeutrino said:

wookiemeister said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

search for one punch deaths convictions in Australia

https://www.google.com/search?q=one+punch+deaths+convictions+in+australia

third link in the list

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-02/man-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-jail-for-fatal-punch/5785190

didn’t see any sentences

of the court doesn’t want mandatory sentencing – they cant make any more money out of the person who does this on a regular basis

I messed up the editing

Victorian man jailed over ‘unprovoked’ one-punch death of David Cassai

wookiemeister said:

when you allowing people to attack strangers in public and get away with it – disfiguring their face – society has officially collapsed

It has? Was there a memo?

Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

when you allowing people to attack strangers in public and get away with it – disfiguring their face – society has officially collapsed

It has? Was there a memo?

you don’t get memos I’m afraid

CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

wookiemeister said:

didn’t see any sentences

of the court doesn’t want mandatory sentencing – they cant make any more money out of the person who does this on a regular basis

I messed up the editing

Victorian man jailed over ‘unprovoked’ one-punch death of David Cassai

with good behaviour he’ll be put sooner I bet

Governments should consider venues and clubs where a lot of one punches happen and address part of the issue by staging one punch awareness around those venues and clubs

CrazyNeutrino said:

Governments should consider venues and clubs where a lot of one punches happen and address part of the issue by staging one punch awareness around those venues and clubs

People need to know about Coup and Contrecoup injuries in general, because they carry very high risk of head, spine, and internal abdominal injuries, can easily be fatal, and very often don’t show obvious signs.

Looks at the mechanism, people, the MECHANISM.

*waves hands imploringly *

I read that as counting coup, what the native Americans got up to.

>I have to say, after reporting a road rage incident to my local police (and following up three times since) back in February, to discover they have taken no action at all, I am slightly regretful I didn’t just punch the idiot senseless at the time….”

just a tiny step further and you could see a road rage event through, then report yourself

shit stirrin’ ya ;)

mine is broader than the road, in fact never on the road, more a ‘life rage’, like right now i’ve got whipper snipper rage. Yesterday it was mower rage. Tomorrow it’s going to be glyphosate rage.

transition said:

>I have to say, after reporting a road rage incident to my local police (and following up three times since) back in February, to discover they have taken no action at all, I am slightly regretful I didn’t just punch the idiot senseless at the time….”

just a tiny step further and you could see a road rage event through, then report yourself

shit stirrin’ ya ;)

mine is broader than the road, in fact never on the road, more a ‘life rage’, like right now i’ve got whipper snipper rage. Yesterday it was mower rage. Tomorrow it’s going to be glyphosate rage.

One day way back in the past I did have a camera in hand when one bloke ran up the arse of a car that gave way to traffic. He got out and dragged the bloke who stopped out of his car and started punching him up. I’ve got the photos somewhere in a box. There was another day in Ashfield, Sydney where the same happened and the guy behind got out and grabbed a tyre lever from his boot and then proceeded to chop up the car of his opponent, who was merely obeying traffic signs. Before he smashed the drivers side window I yelled out, “I’ve called the police!” which caused the assailant to rapidly depart the scene.

Is it fair to have a justice system that gives 9 years jail for murder for a one punch hit and manslaughter charge for another one punch hit?

There is no consistency.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Is it fair to have a justice system that gives 9 years jail for murder for a one punch hit and manslaughter charge for another one punch hit?

There is no consistency.

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

Witty Rejoinder said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Is it fair to have a justice system that gives 9 years jail for murder for a one punch hit and manslaughter charge for another one punch hit?

There is no consistency.

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Witty Rejoinder said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Is it fair to have a justice system that gives 9 years jail for murder for a one punch hit and manslaughter charge for another one punch hit?

There is no consistency.

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

True

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Is it fair to have a justice system that gives 9 years jail for murder for a one punch hit and manslaughter charge for another one punch hit?

There is no consistency.

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

Does that process happen?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

Does that process happen?

Not that I am aware of

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

One act of violence might be part of a pattern of bad behaviour while another might be a totally out of character one off event.

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

To be fair, I’m not convinced that the judiciary is adequately transparent. But otherwise, the poor guy is presented with facts that a judgement has to be called upon.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

All that is in the judge’s quarter.

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

To be fair, I’m not convinced that the judiciary is adequately transparent. But otherwise, the poor guy is presented with facts that a judgement has to be called upon.

Trials cannot go on forever unremitted. The evidence has to be forthcoming, optherwise beaurocracy moves on with the stroke of a pen.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

To be fair, I’m not convinced that the judiciary is adequately transparent. But otherwise, the poor guy is presented with facts that a judgement has to be called upon.

Trials cannot go on forever unremitted. The evidence has to be forthcoming, optherwise beaurocracy moves on with the stroke of a pen.

The root of the problem is the police. They really should not act until they have conclusive evidence.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

To be fair, I’m not convinced that the judiciary is adequately transparent. But otherwise, the poor guy is presented with facts that a judgement has to be called upon.

Trials cannot go on forever unremitted. The evidence has to be forthcoming, optherwise beaurocracy moves on with the stroke of a pen.

The root of the problem is the police. They really should not act until they have conclusive evidence.

If you dug away at this,

Could you ever prove that the tree is a sapling in a termites nest or a bit of the ancient tree that has survived while the termites demolished anything that was dead long enough?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

To be fair, I’m not convinced that the judiciary is adequately transparent. But otherwise, the poor guy is presented with facts that a judgement has to be called upon.

Trials cannot go on forever unremitted. The evidence has to be forthcoming, optherwise beaurocracy moves on with the stroke of a pen.

The root of the problem is the police. They really should not act until they have conclusive evidence.

I suppose I am biased or jaded as I work closely with the courts and it seems that often people are given the benefit of the doubt against the safety of the community. Regardless of ones enthnicity their are a number of not very nice violent people who need to be removed from society as they will be aggressive against anyone as they have a chip on their shoulder

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Trials cannot go on forever unremitted. The evidence has to be forthcoming, optherwise beaurocracy moves on with the stroke of a pen.

The root of the problem is the police. They really should not act until they have conclusive evidence.

I suppose I am biased or jaded as I work closely with the courts and it seems that often people are given the benefit of the doubt against the safety of the community. Regardless of ones enthnicity their are a number of not very nice violent people who need to be removed from society as they will be aggressive against anyone as they have a chip on their shoulder

As to one’s ethnicity, I don’t believe this point is relative given the known history of how such people havebeen treated in our detention systems.

As to their violence, there are rehabilitation programs. If that doesn’t work, then no release.

>….have a chip on their shoulder..

yes, be gone the days of the respectable modest one on both.

Cymek said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

Do you think that if a judge or magistrate releases an offender against the advice of police or the DPP and they are a known risk and they go out and kill someone that judge/magistrates fitness to hold their job is reviewed.

Does that process happen?

Not that I am aware of

management can never be wrong

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

fair.

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

Does that amount to proof beyond reasonable doubt?

Even if he should have known, it’s still manslaughter rather than murder unless it can be proved it was his intention to kill.

eCymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

it was all just an unfortunate series of coincidences

I’m sure he’s very remorseful

wookiemeister said:

eCymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

it was all just an unfortunate series of coincidences

I’m sure he’s very remorseful

Are you?

I think it’s quite possible that he intended to kill the victim. It’s just impossible to prove it.

Still, your probably right. Anyone who punches anyone should be convicted of murder in case they had intended to kill them.

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

one would think that

they know how to kill someone

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Forgive me for returning to the original topic of this thread.

The guy was found guilty of manslaughter.

Since it would be impossible to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he intended to kill (unless he said that was his intention), a verdict of guilty of manslaughter seems perfectly reasonable.

How even wookie can interpret this as a signal that people are free to do whatever they want is beyond me.

Perhaps as he is a MMA figher he would have been aware his ability to kill someone is much higher than your average person due to his strength and fighting skills

one would think that

they know how to kill someone

was he under the influence of alcohol?

CrazyNeutrino said:

was he under the influence of alcohol?

They usually are.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/tony-abbott-launches-another-attack-against-wind-farms/6541952

why doesn’t Tony and Joe attack coal powered power stations

they are ugly as well

wrong thread

CrazyNeutrino said:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-12/tony-abbott-launches-another-attack-against-wind-farms/6541952

why doesn’t Tony and Joe attack coal powered power stations

they are ugly as well

I think they actually look quite cool (ha ha) and aren’t ugly at all

cymek said:

I think they actually look quite cool (ha ha) and aren’t ugly at all

Cooling towers are pretty cool looking.