Date: 12/06/2015 20:34:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 735947
Subject: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Carrying liquids up a hill usually involves a pump, or a lot of buckets. But now it seems water can do some of the heavy lifting itself.

Kesong Liu of Beihang University in Beijing, China, and his colleagues have developed a way to lift water with no need for an external source of energy. Although the technique only works over short distances at the moment, it could be useful for microfluidic lab-on-a-chip devices that shift small amounts of water around to analyse diseases.

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Date: 12/06/2015 22:46:09
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 736026
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

CrazyNeutrino said:


Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Carrying liquids up a hill usually involves a pump, or a lot of buckets. But now it seems water can do some of the heavy lifting itself.

Kesong Liu of Beihang University in Beijing, China, and his colleagues have developed a way to lift water with no need for an external source of energy. Although the technique only works over short distances at the moment, it could be useful for microfluidic lab-on-a-chip devices that shift small amounts of water around to analyse diseases.

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Haven’t looked at it properly, but I’m sceptical.

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Date: 13/06/2015 00:01:51
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 736034
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

> Haven’t looked at it properly, but I’m sceptical.

I’m not even going to bother reading it, until someone tells me to.

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Date: 13/06/2015 00:04:13
From: sibeen
ID: 736035
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Molly, I suggest you have a look at this.

:)

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Date: 13/06/2015 05:37:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 736044
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

They discovered rising damp?

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Date: 13/06/2015 08:01:18
From: Tamb
ID: 736066
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

roughbarked said:


They discovered rising damp?

Capillary action?

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Date: 13/06/2015 08:18:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 736074
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Tamb said:


roughbarked said:

They discovered rising damp?

Capillary action?

An easy way to water plants more efficiently.

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Date: 13/06/2015 09:23:45
From: Teleost
ID: 736076
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

It’s plausible but it comes a little too close to perpetual motion to make me feel comfortable.

Abstract here

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Date: 13/06/2015 10:54:52
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 736082
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

roughbarked said:


Tamb said:

roughbarked said:

They discovered rising damp?

Capillary action?

An easy way to water plants more efficiently.

The point about capillary action is that you can’t get a cycle without external energy to either evaporate the water, or draw it off in some other way.

Capillary action results from the water moving to a state with lower total potential energy (gravitational + surface tension), so for the water to flow it would have to move back to a state with higher total potential energy.

But I don’t rule it out completely. Maybe it extracts thermal energy from the air or something.

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Date: 13/06/2015 11:38:42
From: fsm
ID: 736102
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

It appears that they are using a superhydrophobic coating to create a wettability gradient up a surface that can cause very small droplets to self propel against gravity.

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Date: 13/06/2015 11:44:45
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 736104
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

fsm said:


It appears that they are using a superhydrophobic coating to create a wettability gradient up a surface that can cause very small droplets to self propel against gravity.

using surface tension

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Date: 13/06/2015 12:04:55
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 736107
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

CrazyNeutrino said:


fsm said:

It appears that they are using a superhydrophobic coating to create a wettability gradient up a surface that can cause very small droplets to self propel against gravity.

using surface tension

from the article

It may seem like magic, but it’s all thanks to the surface tension of water. When the droplet touches the larger column of water, this surface tension breaks and the energy used to keep the droplet spherical goes into lifting the water. “We thought, why not use water’s own energy to propel the antigravity delivery?” says Liu.

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:17:25
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 736163
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

CrazyNeutrino said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

fsm said:

It appears that they are using a superhydrophobic coating to create a wettability gradient up a surface that can cause very small droplets to self propel against gravity.

using surface tension

from the article

It may seem like magic, but it’s all thanks to the surface tension of water. When the droplet touches the larger column of water, this surface tension breaks and the energy used to keep the droplet spherical goes into lifting the water. “We thought, why not use water’s own energy to propel the antigravity delivery?” says Liu.

Seem to remember “compression head pumps”? going back to the 50’s, the energy from the water flowing down hill was used to pump a small quantity of water higher than from where the water was collected from the stream. Before you scream
“impossible that’s perpetual motion !” an energy balance will show that this is not the case.

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:31:08
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 736166
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

bob(from black rock) said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

using surface tension

from the article

It may seem like magic, but it’s all thanks to the surface tension of water. When the droplet touches the larger column of water, this surface tension breaks and the energy used to keep the droplet spherical goes into lifting the water. “We thought, why not use water’s own energy to propel the antigravity delivery?” says Liu.

Seem to remember “compression head pumps”? going back to the 50’s, the energy from the water flowing down hill was used to pump a small quantity of water higher than from where the water was collected from the stream. Before you scream
“impossible that’s perpetual motion !” an energy balance will show that this is not the case.

yeah, we sell them

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:35:07
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 736167
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

stumpy_seahorse said:


bob(from black rock) said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

from the article

It may seem like magic, but it’s all thanks to the surface tension of water. When the droplet touches the larger column of water, this surface tension breaks and the energy used to keep the droplet spherical goes into lifting the water. “We thought, why not use water’s own energy to propel the antigravity delivery?” says Liu.

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Seem to remember “compression head pumps”? going back to the 50’s, the energy from the water flowing down hill was used to pump a small quantity of water higher than from where the water was collected from the stream. Before you scream
“impossible that’s perpetual motion !” an energy balance will show that this is not the case.

yeah, we sell them

Thanks stumpy, so my memory and understanding of same is not totally fucked.

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:36:07
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 736168
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

hydraulic ram. lived on a property where we pumped all the water via those.

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:39:52
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 736169
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

ChrispenEvan said:


hydraulic ram. lived on a property where we pumped all the water via those.

works better than a merino ram…

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:42:04
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 736170
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

ChrispenEvan said:


hydraulic ram. lived on a property where we pumped all the water via those.

By “hydraulic ram” do you mean a ram that fucks hydraulic sheep?

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:44:46
From: Tamb
ID: 736171
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

bob(from black rock) said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

using surface tension

from the article

It may seem like magic, but it’s all thanks to the surface tension of water. When the droplet touches the larger column of water, this surface tension breaks and the energy used to keep the droplet spherical goes into lifting the water. “We thought, why not use water’s own energy to propel the antigravity delivery?” says Liu.

Seem to remember “compression head pumps”? going back to the 50’s, the energy from the water flowing down hill was used to pump a small quantity of water higher than from where the water was collected from the stream. Before you scream
“impossible that’s perpetual motion !” an energy balance will show that this is not the case.


I used one here for years. They were called ram pumps & put up about 1 litre of water for every 10 litres through the drive pipe. Similarly 1 metre drive head gave approx 10 metres lift.
This is a more modern design: http://planetsafepumps.com/

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Date: 13/06/2015 15:46:01
From: Tamb
ID: 736172
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

stumpy_seahorse said:


ChrispenEvan said:

hydraulic ram. lived on a property where we pumped all the water via those.

works better than a merino ram…


Depends what you are pumping.

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Date: 13/06/2015 16:26:46
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 736182
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

FWIW, liquid helium can do it.
Like this

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Date: 13/06/2015 16:28:13
From: sibeen
ID: 736183
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Spiny Norman said:


FWIW, liquid helium can do it.
Like this

That just happens to be one of the properties of helium at that temperature, just like superconductivity.

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Date: 14/06/2015 06:37:30
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 736480
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

sibeen said:


Molly, I suggest you have a look at this.

:)

Surface tension isn’t energy or power, it’s force. Transients quickly die out resulting in static equilibrium

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Date: 17/06/2015 20:37:16
From: Kingy
ID: 738062
Subject: re: Antigravity pump lifts water upwards with no power source

Q: Where does steel wool come from?

A: Hydraulic rams.

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