what’s the chances of snoring having about it some benefits, starting with the ancestral environments.

call it loud sleep breathing maybe

for the snoring sleeper it maybe has some benefits to do with desensitizing of and masking of external noises.

I note too it advertizes that the snorer is alive/present (for some partners it maybe drives them to wishing the snorer wasn’t).

am not suggesting it has some sort of evolved direct functional benefit, just that the evironments that put pressure on for selection haven’t exactly gone real hard on it to eliminate it, and to be clear it is breathing.

Is superquiet night-breathing all good.

transition said:

what’s the chances of snoring having about it some benefits, starting with the ancestral environments.

call it loud sleep breathing maybe

for the snoring sleeper it maybe has some benefits to do with desensitizing of and masking of external noises.

I note too it advertizes that the snorer is alive/present (for some partners it maybe drives them to wishing the snorer wasn’t).

am not suggesting it has some sort of evolved direct functional benefit, just that the evironments that put pressure on for selection haven’t exactly gone real hard on it to eliminate it, and to be clear it is breathing.

Is superquiet night-breathing all good.

I thought snoring was a product of a system compromised by adaptions for speech. It is not particularly deadly in breeding years so persists.

>I thought snoring was a product of a system compromised by adaptions for speech

that’s probably the case, it’s a multifuctional bi-directional orifice

but compromised, though couldn’t be said to be exactly conceptually pathologizing snoring, doesn’t really help much with seeing it as possibly having benefits

I’m sort of thinking how might it be seen if one got past it’s all bad, or less than optimal design.

transition said:

>I thought snoring was a product of a system compromised by adaptions for speech

that’s probably the case, it’s a multifuctional bi-directional orifice

but compromised, though couldn’t be said to be exactly conceptually pathologizing snoring, doesn’t really help much with seeing it as possibly having benefits

I’m sort of thinking how might it be seen if one got past it’s all bad, or less than optimal design.

Well there may be benefits but I don’t know what they are. Apart from material for mirth making.

>Well there may be benefits but I don’t know what they are. Apart from material for mirth making.

maybe a starting point to thinking about it is looking in on a newborn to check they are alive/breathing, or children, or old age and of the morning you check your partner is breathing.

have they tried mouth pieces for snorers

some kind of mouth piece that can be 3D printed using the patients own 3D scan of the mouth and throat area

when you hear the person snoring just whistle a short blast and they’ll stop snoring

larry me dog snores

i’m thinking that loud sleep breathing reduces the necessity of approaching closely to check someone is alive/not dead.

or/and that they are present

Snoring preserves the herd.
It ensures that nocturnal stealthy predators cull the old and leave the young non snoring breeders.

Peak Warming Man said:

Snoring preserves the herd.
It ensures that nocturnal stealthy predators cull the old and leave the young non snoring breeders.

No their own herd members kill them cos they keep the rest of the herd awake, schimple!

>It ensures that nocturnal stealthy predators cull the old and leave the young non snoring breeders.

humans are predators, and are at the top of the food chain

transition said:

>It ensures that nocturnal stealthy predators cull the old and leave the young non snoring breeders.

humans are predators, and are at the top of the food chain

Not if you swim with White-pointer Sharks, walk with Polar Bears, or laze around with wild Tigers.

>Not if you swim with White-pointer Sharks, walk with Polar Bears, or laze around with wild Tigers.

to generalize, and not at the expense of accuracy, humans are at the top of the food chain

transition said:

>Not if you swim with White-pointer Sharks, walk with Polar Bears, or laze around with wild Tigers.

to generalize, and not at the expense of accuracy, humans are at the top of the food chain

How many tigers or Polar bears have you eaten?

>How many tigers or Polar bears have you eaten?

note that “s” on the end of human, the pluralization humans, and the italics + the mention of generalization

Supposedly snoring can be the precursor to sleep apnea

Cymek said:

Supposedly snoring can be the precursor to sleep apnea

It can also be the precursor of a fractured skull

bob(from black rock) said:

Cymek said:

Supposedly snoring can be the precursor to sleep apnea

It can also be the precursor of a fractured skull

LOL

transition said:

>Well there may be benefits but I don’t know what they are. Apart from material for mirth making.

maybe a starting point to thinking about it is looking in on a newborn to check they are alive/breathing, or children, or old age and of the morning you check your partner is breathing.

Babies are misleading. It’s common for them to stop breathing during the night.

Your newborn breathes in cycles, with breaths getting progressively faster and deeper, then slower and shallower. This is called periodic breathing. He may pause his breathing for up to five seconds or even longer, then start up again with deepening breaths.

This is normal, and will change into a more mature pattern of breathing, with occasional sighs, in his first few months of life.

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a558559/your-babys-breathing-whats-normal#ixzz3d5mP6t6S

Peak Warming Man said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Cymek said:

Supposedly snoring can be the precursor to sleep apnea

It can also be the precursor of a fractured skull

LOL

Not so funny for the recipient though.

Divine Angel said:

transition said:

>Well there may be benefits but I don’t know what they are. Apart from material for mirth making.

maybe a starting point to thinking about it is looking in on a newborn to check they are alive/breathing, or children, or old age and of the morning you check your partner is breathing.

Babies are misleading. It’s common for them to stop breathing during the night.

Your newborn breathes in cycles, with breaths getting progressively faster and deeper, then slower and shallower. This is called periodic breathing. He may pause his breathing for up to five seconds or even longer, then start up again with deepening breaths.

This is normal, and will change into a more mature pattern of breathing, with occasional sighs, in his first few months of life.

http://www.babycentre.co.uk/a558559/your-babys-breathing-whats-normal#ixzz3d5mP6t6S

We had those Angelcare monitors for the boys up to 2 years of age. I remember a short period of time when the movement sensor was waking me up every couple of nights (an alarm triggers if no movement is detected after 20 seconds). I would jump out of bed in a panic to make sure Speedy Jnr was still alive. The doctor told me to get rid of the monitor/s.

Having those monitors saved my sleep. I think I would have been a walking zombie for the entire 2 years if I didn’t have them, instead of the few times they were triggered.

Which animals sometimes snore?

From memory, a large number of mammal species snore. Checking the web: dog, cat, bear, dormouse, hamster, guinea pig, rabbit, pig, horse, have all been known to snore.

A duckling has been observed snoring. Budgies have been known to talk in their sleep. Hummingbirds – you’d better check the web on that one – “This little guy in Peru is on his way to becoming an internet sensation. He’s sleeping soundly while making cute little bird noises. We call this blend of snoring and tweeting, sneeting.”

I had a cat that twitched its legs in its sleep in such a way that it was easy to tell what it was dreaming about. It was dreaming about catching mice.

Evolutionary value – negligible.

>Evolutionary value

if variations of sleep breathing noise (the spread) are an attribute of breathing, and breathing is a necessity, then it’d be a stretch to dismiss it as having no evolutionary value.

I should have mentioned this before, but a cat’s “purr” is the same sound generation mechanism as a “snore”.

In the cat, the “purr” has a deliberate evolutionary value as an inter-species communication. It’s a deliberate message to a human that says “calm down, everything’s OK”.