Date: 10/07/2015 10:48:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746778
Subject: ASIO now recruiting

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

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Date: 10/07/2015 10:53:12
From: Arts
ID: 746779
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I’ll apply as long as there are no background checks

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Date: 10/07/2015 10:54:34
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746780
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I hate background checks

look if you really stretched just tell em you know Amanda Vanstone that seems to cut through all the bullshit.

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Date: 10/07/2015 10:56:09
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 746782
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

wookiemeister said:


http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?

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Date: 10/07/2015 10:58:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746783
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Skeptic Pete said:


wookiemeister said:

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?


you need a degree in any discipline that cuts me out straight away, what’s worse is that I don’t have the brains, will power or money to waste my time getting a degree for any job now.

i’ve reached that stage of my life where i’m unwilling to deal with unreasonable people

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Date: 10/07/2015 11:03:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 746784
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I’m in…as long as they don’t look at my library uni record, I’d come across as some femnazi communist chemical manufacturing nut bag.

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Date: 10/07/2015 11:07:11
From: kii
ID: 746786
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Arts said:


I’ll apply as long as there are no background checks

They’ve already got a thick file on my family, so I should be a shoe-in for the job.

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Date: 10/07/2015 11:07:44
From: Arts
ID: 746787
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I want the job of the person who does all the background checks on all the new recruits

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Date: 10/07/2015 11:23:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 746793
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I’m surprised that wookie isn’t already running ASIO.

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Date: 10/07/2015 11:47:55
From: Cymek
ID: 746800
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Bubblecar said:


I’m surprised that wookie isn’t already running ASIO.

How do you know he isn’t, this forum is full of dissidents he could be keeping an eye on plus with us all being excellent drivers we could chase spies and catch them easily

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Date: 10/07/2015 12:27:53
From: kii
ID: 746810
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Cymek said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m surprised that wookie isn’t already running ASIO.

How do you know he isn’t, this forum is full of dissidents he could be keeping an eye on plus with us all being excellent drivers we could chase spies and catch them easily

As an excellent non-driver, I’ll catch the ones who are catching the bus.
Bubbles can catch the ones on ze bicycles.

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Date: 10/07/2015 12:31:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 746812
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

kii said:


As an excellent non-driver, I’ll catch the ones who are catching the bus.
Bubbles can catch the ones on ze bicycles.

And ride-on mowers.

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Date: 10/07/2015 12:52:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 746818
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

poikilotherm said:


I’m in…as long as they don’t look at my library uni record, I’d come across as some femnazi communist chemical manufacturing nut bag.

Prolly won’t need background checks tto work that out?

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Date: 10/07/2015 13:48:37
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 746828
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

I’ve said too much already.

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Date: 10/07/2015 13:52:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 746830
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

The Rev Dodgson said:

I’ve said too much already.


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Date: 10/07/2015 17:15:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746893
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Bubblecar said:


I’m surprised that wookie isn’t already running ASIO.

who says i’m not

whose brilliant idea do you think it was to make the ASIO building from glass?

extra good when a car bomb goes off outside because it creates millions of pieces of sharp shrapnel

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:20:31
From: Cymek
ID: 746894
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

wookiemeister said:


Bubblecar said:

I’m surprised that wookie isn’t already running ASIO.

who says i’m not

whose brilliant idea do you think it was to make the ASIO building from glass?

extra good when a car bomb goes off outside because it creates millions of pieces of sharp shrapnel

It’s glass because we have a transparent government

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:50:39
From: Teleost
ID: 746921
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

“During the Intelligence Development Program, Intelligence Officers will earn between $77,508 and $91,268 plus 15.4% superannuation. Following graduation you will earn between $85,678 and $96,535”

Not bad for training, but it’s a bit poor once your operational.

They’d probably want me to shave so I’ll pass.

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:51:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746925
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Teleost said:


“During the Intelligence Development Program, Intelligence Officers will earn between $77,508 and $91,268 plus 15.4% superannuation. Following graduation you will earn between $85,678 and $96,535”

Not bad for training, but it’s a bit poor once your operational.

They’d probably want me to shave so I’ll pass.


just make a bit of money on the side selling some low level intelligence to the north Koreans or something

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:53:47
From: monkey skipper
ID: 746931
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Arts said:


I’ll apply as long as there are no background checks

lol

:)

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:54:08
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746932
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Australian law enforcement and intelligence services have been in secret talks with an Italian-based surveillance company notorious for helping repressive states like Sudan spy on their own citizens, according to leaked emails published by Wikileaks.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-10/leaked-emails-expose-australian-government-agencies-hacking-team/6609276

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:54:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 746934
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

The leak emerged after the Milan-based cyber security company had itself fallen victim to a cyber attack earlier this week with nearly 440 gigabytes of their internal data uploaded to the internet

ha ha fuck you

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Date: 10/07/2015 17:54:54
From: monkey skipper
ID: 746935
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

wookiemeister said:


Skeptic Pete said:

wookiemeister said:

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?


you need a degree in any discipline that cuts me out straight away, what’s worse is that I don’t have the brains, will power or money to waste my time getting a degree for any job now.

i’ve reached that stage of my life where i’m unwilling to deal with unreasonable people

avoid conversing with yourself then.

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Date: 10/07/2015 18:00:23
From: captain_spalding
ID: 746945
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Skeptic Pete said:


wookiemeister said:

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?

There used to be a saying amongst our intelligence partners:

“Do you want it done right, or do you want ASIO to do it?”

Which is not to say that they thought ASIO entirely useless. There are occasions when a bumbling, Inspector Clouseau method of operation might suit your purposes – when you want them to know that you know.

Apparently, having ASIO do it would infallibly ensure that they knew.

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Date: 11/07/2015 18:52:53
From: wookiemeister
ID: 747256
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

The Dead Horse Theory of Bureaucracy

The tribal wisdom of the Plains Indians, passed on from generation to generation, says that
“When you discover that you are riding a dead horse, the beststrategy is to dismount.”

However, in government more advanced strategies are often employed, such as:
1. Buying a stronger whip.
2. Changing riders.
3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.
4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride dead horses.
5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.
6. Reclassifying the dead horse as living-impaired.
7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.
8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.
9. Providing additional funding and/or training toincrease the dead horse’s performance.
10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would improve the dead horse’s
performance.
11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not haveto be fed, it is less costly, carries lower
overhead and therefore contributes substantially more to the bottom line of the
economy than do some other horses.
12. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
And of course
13. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:01:58
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 750334
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

Skeptic Pete said:


wookiemeister said:

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?

I know one person who until recently worked for ASIO. He loves solving puzzles of all kinds, such as jigsaw puzzles, eternity puzzle, word puzzles, I think that helps.

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:13:05
From: captain_spalding
ID: 750336
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

mollwollfumble said:


Skeptic Pete said:

wookiemeister said:

http://www.asio.gov.au/Careers/ASIO-Careers/Intelligence-Officers.html

Do you have to be intelligent?

I know one person who until recently worked for ASIO. He loves solving puzzles of all kinds, such as jigsaw puzzles, eternity puzzle, word puzzles, I think that helps.


Whereas the Bletchley Park recruiters, contrary to popular expectations , found such traits to be irrelevant.

It was the ability to spot patterns and consistency/inconsistency that they found most useful, and i believe that such holds good for much ‘intelliegence’ work to this day.

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:21:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 750341
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

turing realised the Germans were always banging on about the weather so part of the message could be expected to contain the word “ wetter”.

if I were passing messages I’d just throw some junk into the message like adding a number or double up the wrong vowel so the message is readable but garbled to code crackers.

by rights you could probably crack any code by brute force, by using fast powerful computers

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:23:50
From: AwesomeO
ID: 750342
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

wookiemeister said:


turing realised the Germans were always banging on about the weather so part of the message could be expected to contain the word “ wetter”.

if I were passing messages I’d just throw some junk into the message like adding a number or double up the wrong vowel so the message is readable but garbled to code crackers.

by rights you could probably crack any code by brute force, by using fast powerful computers

The world wonders.

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:31:16
From: captain_spalding
ID: 750344
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

wookiemeister said:


turing realised the Germans were always banging on about the weather so part of the message could be expected to contain the word “ wetter”.

if I were passing messages I’d just throw some junk into the message like adding a number or double up the wrong vowel so the message is readable but garbled to code crackers.

by rights you could probably crack any code by brute force, by using fast powerful computers

If you haven’t read it already, you should read ‘The Code Breakers’ by David Kahn.

It’s a massive tome, but well worth the effort, and a great introduction to cryptography and cryptology, from where you can move to more esoteric sources.

You’ll find that all of the practices you suggest, and many others besides, have been in use for centuries.

As for ‘powerful computers’: the American NSA has the biggest and most advanced computer systems in the world. Most advances in computing technology stem from their needs and purposes.

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Date: 19/07/2015 19:35:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 750347
Subject: re: ASIO now recruiting

you probably need to have some “ quantum entanglement “ system

make the channel secure if the code can be broken

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