Date: 28/07/2015 21:43:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 754261
Subject: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Michael Mosley reports:

Why it’s healthier to cook with LARD than sunflower oil: Extraordinary experiment shows everything we’ve been told about cooking oils is wrong

…..To test it out we asked some volunteers, local residents in Leicester, to use a variety of fats and oils, provided by us, in their everyday cooking. The volunteers were asked to collect any leftover oil after cooking, which we would then have analysed.

They were given sunflower oil, vegetable oil, corn oil, cold-pressed rapeseed oil, olive oil (refined and extra virgin), butter, goose fat and lard.

Samples were then sent to De Montfort University in Leicester, where Martin Grootveld, professor of bio-analytical chemistry and chemical pathology, got to work in the lab analysing their contents. His team also ran a parallel experiment where they heated up these oils and fats to frying temperatures.

The findings were surprising, to say the least. Indeed, for many who have followed traditional advice on cooking with oils and fats it will prove to be a case of ‘everything you think you know is wrong’.

Full report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3176558/It-s-healthier-cook-LARD-sunflower-oil-Extraordinary-experiment-shows-ve-told-cooking-oils-wrong.html

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Date: 28/07/2015 21:46:49
From: AwesomeO
ID: 754263
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Bubblecar said:


Michael Mosley reports:

Why it’s healthier to cook with LARD than sunflower oil: Extraordinary experiment shows everything we’ve been told about cooking oils is wrong

…..To test it out we asked some volunteers, local residents in Leicester, to use a variety of fats and oils, provided by us, in their everyday cooking. The volunteers were asked to collect any leftover oil after cooking, which we would then have analysed.

They were given sunflower oil, vegetable oil, corn oil, cold-pressed rapeseed oil, olive oil (refined and extra virgin), butter, goose fat and lard.

Samples were then sent to De Montfort University in Leicester, where Martin Grootveld, professor of bio-analytical chemistry and chemical pathology, got to work in the lab analysing their contents. His team also ran a parallel experiment where they heated up these oils and fats to frying temperatures.

The findings were surprising, to say the least. Indeed, for many who have followed traditional advice on cooking with oils and fats it will prove to be a case of ‘everything you think you know is wrong’.

Full report: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3176558/It-s-healthier-cook-LARD-sunflower-oil-Extraordinary-experiment-shows-ve-told-cooking-oils-wrong.html

You would think by now a marketing department would have worked on the name lard. Something hinting at golden brown, flavour, and crispy or crunchy.

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Date: 28/07/2015 21:52:48
From: sibeen
ID: 754264
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Dripping with information, this thread.

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Date: 28/07/2015 21:59:42
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 754266
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

sibeen said:


Dripping with information, this thread.

Very droll.

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Date: 28/07/2015 22:00:35
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 754267
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

>>To test it out we asked some volunteers, local residents in Leicester,

It’s much easier and a hell of a lot more fun to pole a studio audience.

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Date: 28/07/2015 22:01:55
From: JudgeMental
ID: 754269
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

make it even easier if they greased that pole with lard.

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Date: 28/07/2015 22:07:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 754275
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Read the article, it’s interesting.

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Date: 29/07/2015 09:21:27
From: poikilotherm
ID: 754329
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Amusingly, the Mediterranean diet suggested by most places says to avoid frying anything – instead choose grilling, baking or boiling…and use the oil as a butter replacement.

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Date: 29/07/2015 09:26:24
From: Arts
ID: 754331
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

http://www.lovethispic.com/image/188500/24-small-changes-that-will-cut-1-million-calories

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Date: 29/07/2015 09:30:07
From: wookiemeister
ID: 754334
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

I only use live to fry stuff like eggs I didn’t even know olive oil was bad to use to fry with

then again, i’d suspect the oil would taste bad if the heat had damaged it

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:28:39
From: PermeateFree
ID: 754376
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

wookiemeister said:


I only use live to fry stuff like eggs I didn’t even know olive oil was bad to use to fry with

then again, i’d suspect the oil would taste bad if the heat had damaged it

The article says the opposite to what you are saying.

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:36:07
From: furious
ID: 754379
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

“Staying true to the science, it must be stressed that as long as they are not heated, polyunsaturated fats (vegetable and sunflower oils) are still seen as a healthy option.”

If not used in heated (cooking) what else are vegetable and sunflower oils used for?

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:38:30
From: AwesomeO
ID: 754381
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

furious said:


“Staying true to the science, it must be stressed that as long as they are not heated, polyunsaturated fats (vegetable and sunflower oils) are still seen as a healthy option.”

If not used in heated (cooking) what else are vegetable and sunflower oils used for?

Mayonnaise and dressings.

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:38:49
From: Cymek
ID: 754382
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

furious said:


“Staying true to the science, it must be stressed that as long as they are not heated, polyunsaturated fats (vegetable and sunflower oils) are still seen as a healthy option.”

If not used in heated (cooking) what else are vegetable and sunflower oils used for?

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:43:52
From: PermeateFree
ID: 754385
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Cymek said:


furious said:

“Staying true to the science, it must be stressed that as long as they are not heated, polyunsaturated fats (vegetable and sunflower oils) are still seen as a healthy option.”

If not used in heated (cooking) what else are vegetable and sunflower oils used for?


Are they going to cook him?

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:45:50
From: Cymek
ID: 754386
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

PermeateFree said:


Cymek said:

furious said:

“Staying true to the science, it must be stressed that as long as they are not heated, polyunsaturated fats (vegetable and sunflower oils) are still seen as a healthy option.”

If not used in heated (cooking) what else are vegetable and sunflower oils used for?


Are they going to cook him?

No it was to make the electricity conduct better

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Date: 29/07/2015 13:48:52
From: furious
ID: 754387
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

What’s the best oil for that?

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Date: 29/07/2015 18:01:16
From: Divine Angel
ID: 754456
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

I watched something on TV yesterday which said extra virgin olive oil was the best oil to use in everything. It was an actual scientician, not some blonde chick trying to sell the latest cosmetic face cream. The segment was about imported oils usually being mixed with inferior oils and being labelled as Extra Virgin, when in fact the oil isn’t. (Apparently Australian grown olive oil is tightly regulated so is The Real Deal.)

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Date: 29/07/2015 19:48:03
From: PermeateFree
ID: 754526
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Divine Angel said:


I watched something on TV yesterday which said extra virgin olive oil was the best oil to use in everything. It was an actual scientician, not some blonde chick trying to sell the latest cosmetic face cream. The segment was about imported oils usually being mixed with inferior oils and being labelled as Extra Virgin, when in fact the oil isn’t. (Apparently Australian grown olive oil is tightly regulated so is The Real Deal.)

Which is pretty well what the article said. Did anyone read it?

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Date: 29/07/2015 19:57:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 754533
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

PermeateFree said:


Divine Angel said:

I watched something on TV yesterday which said extra virgin olive oil was the best oil to use in everything. It was an actual scientician, not some blonde chick trying to sell the latest cosmetic face cream. The segment was about imported oils usually being mixed with inferior oils and being labelled as Extra Virgin, when in fact the oil isn’t. (Apparently Australian grown olive oil is tightly regulated so is The Real Deal.)

Which is pretty well what the article said. Did anyone read it?

Well not exactly. The article said that from a health point of view, the best oil to use for cooking is olive oil (not extra virgin, just any olive oil. Extra virgin is best for non-cooking, e.g. salad dressings etc). But animal fat like lard (in small quantities) is also acceptable for cooking purposes (fewer nasties produced as a result of the heating). Sunflower, vegetable and other common “high temperature” oils should be avoided for cooking because they produce too many nasty aldehydes. But they’re OK in dressings etc where they’re not subject to heat.

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Date: 29/07/2015 20:08:06
From: PermeateFree
ID: 754543
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

Bubblecar said:


PermeateFree said:

Divine Angel said:

I watched something on TV yesterday which said extra virgin olive oil was the best oil to use in everything. It was an actual scientician, not some blonde chick trying to sell the latest cosmetic face cream. The segment was about imported oils usually being mixed with inferior oils and being labelled as Extra Virgin, when in fact the oil isn’t. (Apparently Australian grown olive oil is tightly regulated so is The Real Deal.)

Which is pretty well what the article said. Did anyone read it?

Well not exactly. The article said that from a health point of view, the best oil to use for cooking is olive oil (not extra virgin, just any olive oil. Extra virgin is best for non-cooking, e.g. salad dressings etc). But animal fat like lard (in small quantities) is also acceptable for cooking purposes (fewer nasties produced as a result of the heating). Sunflower, vegetable and other common “high temperature” oils should be avoided for cooking because they produce too many nasty aldehydes. But they’re OK in dressings etc where they’re not subject to heat.

I knew you had read it Mr Car, but from the many comments made in this thread, it was obvious nobody had got past the first paragraph.

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Date: 29/07/2015 20:08:58
From: OCDC
ID: 754545
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

PermeateFree said:

Bubblecar said:
PermeateFree said:
Which is pretty well what the article said. Did anyone read it?
Well not exactly. The article said that from a health point of view, the best oil to use for cooking is olive oil (not extra virgin, just any olive oil. Extra virgin is best for non-cooking, e.g. salad dressings etc). But animal fat like lard (in small quantities) is also acceptable for cooking purposes (fewer nasties produced as a result of the heating). Sunflower, vegetable and other common “high temperature” oils should be avoided for cooking because they produce too many nasty aldehydes. But they’re OK in dressings etc where they’re not subject to heat.
I knew you had read it Mr Car, but from the many comments made in this thread, it was obvious nobody had got past the first paragraph.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tl%3Bdr

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Date: 30/07/2015 06:47:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 754796
Subject: re: Healthier to Cook with Lard than Sunflower Oil

According to wikipedia: “Only two fatty acids are known to be essential for humans: alpha-linolenic acid (an omega-3 fatty acid) and linoleic acid (an omega-6 fatty acid).” Sunflower oil is 59% linoleic acid and lard is 10% linoleic acid.

Of course, cooking changes everything.

According to mollwollfumble, oils is oils. Differences in metabolic breakdown paths for different food oils are negligible.

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