Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
It isn’t worth worring about.
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
I prefer the term fictitious
All religions are fictitious
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
I prefer the term fictitious
All religions are fictitious
Anything faerie will do.
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
I prefer the term fictitious
All religions are fictitious
Agreed, but I think this is caused by mental disease.
bob(from black rock) said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
I prefer the term fictitious
All religions are fictitious
Agreed, but I think this is caused by mental disease.
I maybe rong again, but also think that religions tranact the most money.
have you seen the orthodox continent at the Jerusalem gay Mardi Gras this year? it’s wild !
wookiemeister said:
have you seen the orthodox contingent at the Jerusalem gay Mardi Gras this year? it’s wild !
““Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group,” says a new comprehensive demographic study of more than 230 countries and territories conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.
“There are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84 percent of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion,” the analysis states.”
that’s a lot. If your theory is even slightly true then mental disease = normal
Adherents.com says “Sizes shown are approximate estimates, and are here mainly for the purpose of ordering the groups, not providing a definitive number”.
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist ≤1100 million 15.35%
only 15 percent of the worlds population but still….
notes – “Nonreligious” includes agnostic, atheist, secular humanist, and people answering ‘none’ or no religious preference. Half of this group is theistic but nonreligious. According to a 2012 study by Gallup International “59% of the world said that they think of themselves as religious person , 23% think of themselves as not religious whereas 13% think of themselves as convinced atheists”.
from wiki
so mental disease? if that’s true then we are all in trouble… but I don’t think it is. Sure, a bit of brain washing by extremists goes on.. but they have to brain wash, because what they do makes no religious sense… are you talking about the brainwashing extremists?
these guys are amazing dancers!
Arts said:
““Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group,” says a new comprehensive demographic study of more than 230 countries and territories conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life.“There are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84 percent of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion,” the analysis states.”
that’s a lot. If your theory is even slightly true then mental disease = normal
Perhaps its the fear of death and the lies promise of an afterlife and someone else does the hard moral thinking for you that attracts people to religion.
I was thinking just yesterday about a counterargument if someone uses religion to condemn same sex marriage that you could say “So God is against two people of the same sex who love each other wanting to get married, but is OK with people using his name to justify killing, raping, exploiting, inslaving, etc (its a long list) innocent people minding their own business” “And you are perfectly OK worshiping such a being”
I wonder if most people who aren’t religious have a logical mind and would demand extreme proof to ever believe in a god and even then you just think they could be an advanced being whose technology makes them appear so. If we went back in time a few thousand years our modern technology could be made to make us appear as gods
That counter argument only works if the person actually uses his name to justify killing, raping, exploiting, inslaving, etc
furious said:
- I was thinking just yesterday about a counterargument if someone uses religion to condemn same sex marriage that you could say “So God is against two people of the same sex who love each other wanting to get married, but is OK with people using his name to justify killing, raping, exploiting, inslaving, etc (its a long list) innocent people minding their own business” “And you are perfectly OK worshiping such a being”
That counter argument only works if the person actually uses his name to justify killing, raping, exploiting, inslaving, etc
True but they often use the god excuse for less extreme behaviours but still negative behaviours, racism, etc
A better counter-argument might be that there is no god as evidenced by all the killing, raping, exploiting, enslaving, etc…
furious said:
- True but they often use the god excuse for less extreme behaviours but still negative behaviours, racism, etc
A better counter-argument might be that there is no god as evidenced by all the killing, raping, exploiting, enslaving, etc…
That would work as well
furious said:
- True but they often use the god excuse for less extreme behaviours but still negative behaviours, racism, etc
A better counter-argument might be that there is no god as evidenced by all the killing, raping, exploiting, enslaving, etc…
unless that’s part of the greater plan…
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
mollwollfumble said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
result.
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
result.
Has this thread created a new paradox?
CrazyNeutrino said:
roughbarked said:
mollwollfumble said:A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
result.
Has this thread created a new paradox?
not at all.
roughbarked said:
After all, we are discussing creation here.
CrazyNeutrino said:
roughbarked said:result.
Has this thread created a new paradox?
not at all.
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
Consider, all the amount of time that humans as a specis have put into religion
Billions of humans all over the planet and in the past believing in something fictitious,
Spending hours and hours a week on something that does not exist, but what priests and clergy say exists when there is no proof of its existence
Try calculating all the human hours that has gone into pray, into believing, into reading,
How many human hours for all of humans believing in a non existent God
What if they were all told the truth, that they are wasting their time.
Trillions of human hours gone into nothing, yes you could say its a disease
A specis that spends trillions of bilogical time on nothing is a threat to its existence!
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
Consider, all the amount of time that humans as a specis have put into religion
Billions of humans all over the planet and in the past believing in something fictitious,
Spending hours and hours a week on something that does not exist, but what priests and clergy say exists when there is no proof of its existence
Try calculating all the human hours that has gone into pray, into believing, into reading,
How many human hours for all of humans believing in a non existent God
What if they were all told the truth, that they are wasting their time.
Trillions of human hours gone into nothing, yes you could say its a disease
A specis that spends trillions of bilogical time on nothing is a threat to its existence!
Its funny how those that believe in religion accept it all on faith no proof required but it’s this complete lack of proof that turns me off religion, its far too easy to just make a whole bunch of stuff up and say faith is required proof is blasphemy
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
Consider, all the amount of time that humans as a specis have put into religion
Billions of humans all over the planet and in the past believing in something fictitious,
Spending hours and hours a week on something that does not exist, but what priests and clergy say exists when there is no proof of its existence
Try calculating all the human hours that has gone into pray, into believing, into reading,
How many human hours for all of humans believing in a non existent God
What if they were all told the truth, that they are wasting their time.
Trillions of human hours gone into nothing, yes you could say its a disease
A specis that spends trillions of bilogical time on nothing is a threat to its existence!
>>Billions of humans all over the planet and in the past believing in something fictitious,<<
And not only believing, but raping, burning, pillaging and torturing to “prove” the existence of their one and only true God.
I think religion is probably an aspect of our brain that is also responsible for feelings of awe, wonder and exploration and searching that as a species have driven us from the trees into space.
AwesomeO said:
I think religion is probably an aspect of our brain that is also responsible for feelings of awe, wonder and exploration and searching that as a species have driven us from the trees into space.
t is witchcraft I tell ye.
People believing in nothing are foolish
Look at how many people are still clinging on to outdated medieval concepts, which never change, while the rest of the world does.
Look at all the contradictions in the bible.
At a text that never changes
A text that is hard to read, in a style that is two thousand years old.
Look at all the bad ideas that religions still cling onto ideas that are mostly sexist, racist, tribal and discriminating,
Look at all the splinter groups that form with power struggles (human behaviour)
Look at all the paedophiles across all religions (human behavior)
Look at the way men in religion treat women (human behavior)
Look at the way established religions behave
Look at the way sects behave
Look at all the religious wars
Look at the behaviour of all the religious inquisitions of the past
On top of all that all the churches mosques cathedrals are all built by people
All the religious artworks created by people,
All the religious texts created by people,
Read by people, preached by people to people
By people who wrote in thousands / hundreds of years ago
A book that never changed after the new testament was added
Look at the murderous behaviour of ISIS
Wasting millions of human hours
The behaviour indicates a disease.
mollwollfumble said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
wookiemeister said:
mollwollfumble said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Forgive me if I have said this before,cos I am an “old fart” but I think all religions are mental diseases
A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
apparently a lot of them are inclined to smoke as well
self immolation?
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
mollwollfumble said:A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
apparently a lot of them are inclined to smoke as wellself immolation?
Just don’t give them a hammer and nails.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
mollwollfumble said:A high proportion of people in mental institutions are religious, but I haven’t yet figured out if that’s cause or effect.
apparently a lot of them are inclined to smoke as wellself immolation?
wookiemeister said:
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:apparently a lot of them are inclined to smoke as well
self immolation?
addiction is coupled with it
It is a habit I tell ye. I didst suggest this at my first visit here which was way ba pre 9/11
the religious people have killed the non believers throughout the millennia
unless you have a religious bent you get killed, its by selection that you breed out the non believers