https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

Have you seen the ones done with aluminium?

kii said:

Have you seen the ones done with aluminium?

no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jHGQRvAts

There’s a few of these around IIRC.

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

Quite a few of them are in my backyard partying on the hoses and the cooler drip line. They use them as roads across the yard….little bitey shits they are.

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

What has that got to do with it? It seems that attitude sums us up, never mind if we destroy vast numbers, as long as some are left.

kii said:

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

Quite a few of them are in my backyard partying on the hoses and the cooler drip line. They use them as roads across the yard….little bitey shits they are.

Learning to live with nature seems the wisest bet.

PermeateFree said:

never mind if we destroy vast numbers, as long as some are left.

More like, never mind if we destroy some, as long as vast numbers are left.

kii said:

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

I wonder how many people actually stand back and ask why our species thinks it has the unquestionable right to destroy other species for no other reason than curiosity. Do others really think of what we have done to other life forms on this planet? If nothing else we are extremely arrogant!

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

Quite a few of them are in my backyard partying on the hoses and the cooler drip line. They use them as roads across the yard….little bitey shits they are.

Destroying a whole colony is on a completely different scale to that of destroying a few aggressive individuals. The first was purely to satisfy our curiosity, whilst the other was removing a few offending individuals.

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

dv said:

In fairness, there are several ants in the world.

Quite a few of them are in my backyard partying on the hoses and the cooler drip line. They use them as roads across the yard….little bitey shits they are.

Destroying a whole colony is on a completely different scale to that of destroying a few aggressive individuals. The first was purely to satisfy our curiosity, whilst the other was removing a few offending individuals.

Meh…sometimes the old guy goes out and sprays a badly placed nest (like where I stand to fill up the fountain). Most times I move the hoses and confuse the shit out of them :P

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

never mind if we destroy vast numbers, as long as some are left.

More like, never mind if we destroy some, as long as vast numbers are left.

What if we did find another civilisation on another plant and they did to us (with the same lack of compassion) as we do to other species on this planet, I wonder what you would think them?

kii said:

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

Quite a few of them are in my backyard partying on the hoses and the cooler drip line. They use them as roads across the yard….little bitey shits they are.

Destroying a whole colony is on a completely different scale to that of destroying a few aggressive individuals. The first was purely to satisfy our curiosity, whilst the other was removing a few offending individuals.

Meh…sometimes the old guy goes out and sprays a badly placed nest (like where I stand to fill up the fountain). Most times I move the hoses and confuse the shit out of them :P

It is one thing to remove a pest, it is another to wilfully destroy other life forms for little reason. But I suppose it depends on whether you think other species have any right to exist.

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

PermeateFree said:

Destroying a whole colony is on a completely different scale to that of destroying a few aggressive individuals. The first was purely to satisfy our curiosity, whilst the other was removing a few offending individuals.

Meh…sometimes the old guy goes out and sprays a badly placed nest (like where I stand to fill up the fountain). Most times I move the hoses and confuse the shit out of them :P

It is one thing to remove a pest, it is another to wilfully destroy other life forms for little reason. But I suppose it depends on whether you think other species have any right to exist.

When it comes down to it, a weed or a pest does seem to stem from the fact that we want it all our way.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

never mind if we destroy vast numbers, as long as some are left.

More like, never mind if we destroy some, as long as vast numbers are left.

What if we did find another civilisation on another plant and they did to us (with the same lack of compassion) as we do to other species on this planet, I wonder what you would think them?

If we were ants, they’d be well justified.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095335/Underground-ant-city-Brazil-rivals-Great-Wall-China-labyrinth-highways.html

no ants were harmed in the experiment.

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

More like, never mind if we destroy some, as long as vast numbers are left.

What if we did find another civilisation on another plant and they did to us (with the same lack of compassion) as we do to other species on this planet, I wonder what you would think them?

If we were ants, they’d be well justified.

if they were most of the creatures on this planet, they would be well justified.

JudgeMental said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095335/Underground-ant-city-Brazil-rivals-Great-Wall-China-labyrinth-highways.html

no ants were harmed in the experiment.

Holes on the surface photo look to be still active. Still, I suppose it is progress that they were anticipating some people would find it offensive and so the producers hopefully diverted criticism before it got started.

or maybe they aren’t arseholes and found a deserted nest so they wouldn’t harm anything intentionally.

>Only named animals are safe

Cecil begs to differ.

http://www.onislam.net/english/health-and-science/faith-and-the-sciences/410536-a-journey-into-an-ant-colony.html?the_Sciences=

of course on islam isn’t the best source but the information, except at the end, seems pretty good.

impressive

dv said:

The satire is quite accurate by portraying the publics general ignorance of the environment and the absurd things that must to be done to get their attention. Well done dv, you are showing promise.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

The satire is quite accurate by portraying the publics general ignorance of the environment and the absurd things that must to be done to get their attention. Well done dv, you are showing promise.

People feel helpless about doing anything to make the world a better place so give up, its not an excuse but more a reality of how it is.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

The satire is quite accurate by portraying the publics general ignorance of the environment and the absurd things that must to be done to get their attention. Well done dv, you are showing promise.

People feel helpless about doing anything to make the world a better place so give up, its not an excuse but more a reality of how it is.

I think it is more an attitude of mind. People rarely think about the welfare of animals and when then do, you get the mindless idiots trying to make them look foolish, yet it is the self-centred numbskulls that look ridiculous, if only for their lack of education.

dv said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFg21×2sj-M

A giant ant colony is pumped full of cement, then excavated to reveal the complexity of its inner structure.

Nice. I’ve seen a similar thing done with a rabbit warren. That was very interesting, too.

I can remember when David Attenborough first showed us on TV what the inside of a giant termite nest was like – by getting his upper body inside – and suffered from a succession of sneezing fits while trying to do it.

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

Yes, just for our amusement.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

Yes, just for our amusement.

With hardly a care for the comprehension later that the whole local ecosystem has now been compromised.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

Yes, just for our amusement.

Are you a human collaborator for our so to be ant overlords

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

Yes, just for our amusement.

With hardly a care for the comprehension later that the whole local ecosystem has now been compromised.

One could be excused for thinking; OK we’ve done the science once. Learned the lesson, that should be enough of that.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, it is hardly new. The filling of ants nests with concrete has been done lots of times before.

Yes, just for our amusement.

Are you a human collaborator for our so to be ant overlords

The ants are our overlords. No need for cowtowing.

roughbarked said:

The ants are our overlords. No need for cowtowing.

There is always a need for kowtowing. For instance, wouldn’t it be good if the prime minister had to kowtow ‘at the start of the day and at the going down of the sun’?

OK we’ve done the science once. Learned the lesson, that should be enough of that.

really? lol.

Nest casts are fantastic teaching resources. I want some for when I do school talks.
It’s also the best way to look at nest structure. Different ants have very different nest structures and it’s simply not possible to look at these by digging a nest.

While most casts are from RIFA nests, these guys have a few from other species that shows the diversity of structure.

The reality of ant dynamics is that making a few casts is unlikely to cause any real damage to populations. It’s really hard to cause localised extinctions of ant populations. I’ve been trying to do just that with a couple of species for the last few years and it’s bloody hard work.

Teleost said:

Nest casts are fantastic teaching resources. I want some for when I do school talks.
It’s also the best way to look at nest structure. Different ants have very different nest structures and it’s simply not possible to look at these by digging a nest.

While most casts are from RIFA nests, these guys have a few from other species that shows the diversity of structure.

The reality of ant dynamics is that making a few casts is unlikely to cause any real damage to populations. It’s really hard to cause localised extinctions of ant populations. I’ve been trying to do just that with a couple of species for the last few years and it’s bloody hard work.

I think you miss the point. It is not whether an ant is likely to go extinct or not, but an attitude of mind of the people with such a low appreciation of other life forms. There are many who do not give a seconds thought as to whether they destroy an entire colony of animals on little more than a whim and mere curiosity. We should be more aware of what we do to other species and seriously consider, especially if we are going to destroy them, is it really warranted; this decision is easier to make if we have the attitude that other species have a right to live too.

Wont anyone think of the ants.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Wont anyone think of the ants.

It is your attitude towards the lives and welfare of others; it just so happens in this instance it was ants.

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Wont anyone think of the ants.

It is your attitude towards the lives and welfare of others; it just so happens in this instance it was ants.

I am not an ant murderer

I’m an ant murderer and I’m proud!

I eat animals all the time. I don’t have to. I like eating them.
It’s nothing to do with survival, and the environment would be arguably better off if we all stopped exploiting their tasty goodness and left them to frolic in the fields as Dawg intended. How much consideration for other life forms do you think most people have when they load their supermarket trolley up with various body parts?

In comparison, wiping out an ant colony is hardly the most evil act against nature and it provides a tool to learn from and to feed our sense of curiosity. It may even help us to understand more about these truly amazing animals. If one cast inspires a future myrmecologist, that’s fantastic. Satisfying our curiosity is what science is all about. If we hadn’t done that we’d still be sitting out the front of the cave banging rocks together.

Teleost said:

I’m an ant murderer and I’m proud!

I eat animals all the time. I don’t have to. I like eating them.
It’s nothing to do with survival, and the environment would be arguably better off if we all stopped exploiting their tasty goodness and left them to frolic in the fields as Dawg intended. How much consideration for other life forms do you think most people have when they load their supermarket trolley up with various body parts?

In comparison, wiping out an ant colony is hardly the most evil act against nature and it provides a tool to learn from and to feed our sense of curiosity. It may even help us to understand more about these truly amazing animals. If one cast inspires a future myrmecologist, that’s fantastic. Satisfying our curiosity is what science is all about. If we hadn’t done that we’d still be sitting out the front of the cave banging rocks together.

Science is always hungry and fire ants and other imports give us plentyto work with.

I wonder how many termite colonies have been wiped out in the making of all of our cities.

PermeateFree said:

dv said:

PermeateFree said:

never mind if we destroy vast numbers, as long as some are left.

More like, never mind if we destroy some, as long as vast numbers are left.

What if we did find another civilisation on another plant and they did to us (with the same lack of compassion) as we do to other species on this planet, I wonder what you would think them?

we don’t have to go to another planet.. we have a not so nice history of maiming our own species either

Teleost said:

I’m an ant murderer and I’m proud!

I eat animals all the time. I don’t have to. I like eating them.
It’s nothing to do with survival, and the environment would be arguably better off if we all stopped exploiting their tasty goodness and left them to frolic in the fields as Dawg intended. How much consideration for other life forms do you think most people have when they load their supermarket trolley up with various body parts?

In comparison, wiping out an ant colony is hardly the most evil act against nature and it provides a tool to learn from and to feed our sense of curiosity. It may even help us to understand more about these truly amazing animals. If one cast inspires a future myrmecologist, that’s fantastic. Satisfying our curiosity is what science is all about. If we hadn’t done that we’d still be sitting out the front of the cave banging rocks together.

Frankly I am very disappointed in your attitude and lack of understanding in what is being discussed here. However it is probably indicative of why the environment is in such a mess. You talk about the lack of empathy when we consume the animal parts in our supermarkets, but this is not the point. You should however, be interested as to whether these animals had a good life before going to the slaughterhouse or were they kept in horrific conditions, just so the grower can increase his profits. We all have to eat and it is purely our lack of population control that we need to consume so much.

As to the lack of consequence of knocking off an ants nest; how many do we need to destroy to satisfy our curiosity and to educate ourselves, or is it just fun thing for us to do?

In your last post you displayed an attitude I have heard many times before, of what is the harm off knocking off an entire population of animals if there are plenty more and they wont go extinct. Well maybe this is true, but what a negative way to view other life forms, it is as if they had no life to lead and were nothing more than flotsam and jetsam. Just for a moment, let us make this more personal and we decided it would be a good idea if we emptied a country of people to see what would happen, we could get rid of them by putting them all in empty coal mines and then simply filling them with water. How do you feel about that, or are we so unrelated to other life forms on this planet we don’t need to concern ourselves as they are only rubbish for us to do what ever we wish?

Humans have treated each other as bad or worse than how we treat animals, so what hope do animals have against people who don’t even value human life.

fuck sake what a lot of self righteous shit.

I just watched the video – what they excavated was amazing

seems to me to be a great way to understand how these animals live which, when better understood, can only lead to better environmental outcomes.

plus the nest was abandoned so no ants were, intentionally, killed.

Cymek said:

Humans have treated each other as bad or worse than how we treat animals, so what hope do animals have against people who don’t even value human life.

Summed up in one.

JudgeMental said:

fuck sake what a lot of self righteous shit.

Typical of unthinking, self-obsessed gun totting idiots.

JudgeMental said:

fuck sake what a lot of self righteous shit.

Do we need to bring out the outrage bus?

diddly-squat said:

I just watched the video – what they excavated was amazing

seems to me to be a great way to understand how these animals live which, when better understood, can only lead to better environmental outcomes.

If that were the case, all wild animals would be having a ball, but unfortunately I have not noticed that, although humans seem to be doing alright for themselves.

probably CN. JGMTS how some are always banging on about how environmentally aware they are and everybody else is so ignorant.

JudgeMental said:

plus the nest was abandoned so no ants were, intentionally, killed.

Was it? have a look at the surface photos, it appears to be very active.

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

fuck sake what a lot of self righteous shit.

Typical of unthinking, self-obsessed gun totting idiots.

those that kill ants with guns

wouldn’t be many though that whip out a glock to kill an ant

ANT!

BANG

worse than vegans they are.

there is a problem with fire ants I read somewhere

JudgeMental said:

probably CN. JGMTS how some are always banging on about how environmentally aware they are and everybody else is so ignorant.

Well that is certainly correct for you Boris. However I was merely stating that if our attitudes included the welfare of other life forms, we would be less likely to be so damaging to the environment.

don’t blow a gasket PM.

PF rather. PM is sensible.

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

probably CN. JGMTS how some are always banging on about how environmentally aware they are and everybody else is so ignorant.

Well that is certainly correct for you Boris. However I was merely stating that if our attitudes included the welfare of other life forms, we would be less likely to be so damaging to the environment.

people have been prosecuted for harming/killing animals

and people have been prosecuted for damaging the environment

laws like that did not exist 50 years ago

JudgeMental said:

worse than vegans they are.

This planet is facing immense environmental problems and all you can do is add to it. The real problem is you just do not appreciate the problem because you lack the interest and education. Unfortunately there are far too many like you.

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

worse than vegans they are.

This planet is facing immense environmental problems and all you can do is add to it. The real problem is you just do not appreciate the problem because you lack the interest and education. Unfortunately there are far too many like you.

At least a number of governments who have the powah are trying to reduce the damage we are doing, hopefully its not too little too late.

JudgeMental said:

don’t blow a gasket PM.

I just cannot understand why people cannot appreciate other life forms have a right to live and we should give them due consideration, rather than treating them as lifeless objects. If that is blowing a gasket, then I am pleased to be able o do so.

CrazyNeutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

probably CN. JGMTS how some are always banging on about how environmentally aware they are and everybody else is so ignorant.

Well that is certainly correct for you Boris. However I was merely stating that if our attitudes included the welfare of other life forms, we would be less likely to be so damaging to the environment.

people have been prosecuted for harming/killing animals

and people have been prosecuted for damaging the environment

laws like that did not exist 50 years ago

That is all well and good, although if people changed their outlook and adopted a better attitude towards all animals, there would be less need for the above.

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

worse than vegans they are.

This planet is facing immense environmental problems and all you can do is add to it. The real problem is you just do not appreciate the problem because you lack the interest and education. Unfortunately there are far too many like you.

At least a number of governments who have the powah are trying to reduce the damage we are doing, hopefully its not too little too late.

It will not happen while we continue to breed like rabbits.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-cohen/the-growing-level-of-envi_b_6390054.html

PermeateFree said:

JudgeMental said:

don’t blow a gasket PM.

I just cannot understand why people cannot appreciate other life forms have a right to live and we should give them due consideration, rather than treating them as lifeless objects. If that is blowing a gasket, then I am pleased to be able o do so.

Many people do I think but they go about it quietly by caring for pets, local wildlife etc.
I wonder how much is due to ignorance, lack of education or poverty.

JudgeMental said:

plus the nest was abandoned so no ants were, intentionally, killed.

I intentionally killed a heap of ants this evening.

JudgeMental said:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-cohen/the-growing-level-of-envi_b_6390054.html

There is a lot being done and despite what you might read here, I am not the only one concerned with the environment, but we are very much in the minority and must continually battle the self-serving attitudes out there, where money is more important that the environment (as if we were not part of it).

I started this off by saying, if we had an attitude that included an appreciation of wildlife we would not be as damaging as we currently are. I was not making a major statement about the environment, which some here seem to think such an attitude is all about. Regrettably, environmental problems are vastly larger.

kii said:

JudgeMental said:

plus the nest was abandoned so no ants were, intentionally, killed.

I intentionally killed a heap of ants this evening.

Just for the record, what you are saying, has absolutely nothing to do with what I have been saying.

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

JudgeMental said:

plus the nest was abandoned so no ants were, intentionally, killed.

I intentionally killed a heap of ants this evening.

Just for the record I know that. This is just my daily tally of ant massacres in my yard.
Just for the record, what you are saying, has absolutely nothing to do with what I have been saying.

Who is to say that the balance of nature does not include us killing a heap of ants?

Dammit. Quote fail.

>I started this off by saying, if we had an attitude that included an appreciation of wildlife we would not be as damaging as we currently are..”

being at the top of the food chain would tend a creature so to being speciest, there’s just gaiah now, couple more decades we’ll be on top of that too.

kii said:

PermeateFree said:

kii said:

I intentionally killed a heap of ants this evening.

Just for the record I know that. This is just my daily tally of ant massacres in my yard.
Just for the record, what you are saying, has absolutely nothing to do with what I have been saying.

Pleased to hear that, but just to clarify. Attitude involves not the killing or otherwise, but the consideration of the factors (including animal welfare) of whether you should do it or not. This is instead of just doing, with no thought or consideration of the wider consequences.

You do know that when the sun becomes a red giant, it will kill every ant on the planet

CrazyNeutrino said:

You do know that when the sun becomes a red giant, it will kill every ant on the planet

Crazy you cannot be funny when trying to make a joke from the wrong premise.

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

You do know that when the sun becomes a red giant, it will kill every ant on the planet

Crazy you cannot be funny when trying to make a joke from the wrong premise.

I didnt see it as funny, our star will become a red giant and it will evaporate earths oceans, burn trees, etc I dont see it as a wrong premise, its something that will happen

I dont go around killing other lifeforms for the hell of it

I dont destroy trees or anything like that

I have bought a honeyflow device and plan to have a bee hive after I research what I need to know about farming bees

a declining bee population is not good,

declining species is not good either

there are many people who look after animals and birds

and there are people who will destroy things,

all we can do is to educate people and jail those that destroy

CrazyNeutrino said:

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

You do know that when the sun becomes a red giant, it will kill every ant on the planet

Crazy you cannot be funny when trying to make a joke from the wrong premise.

I didnt see it as funny, our star will become a red giant and it will evaporate earths oceans, burn trees, etc I dont see it as a wrong premise, its something that will happen

I dont go around killing other lifeforms for the hell of it

I dont destroy trees or anything like that

I have bought a honeyflow device and plan to have a bee hive after I research what I need to know about farming bees

a declining bee population is not good,

declining species is not good either

there are many people who look after animals and birds

and there are people who will destroy things,

all we can do is to educate people and jail those that destroy

I was not being critical of you in my reply Crazy, although I could take issue regarding those honey bees, but that can wait until another time.

Stop it,

breeding bees is one way to help reduce a declining bee population.

other ways include reducing pesticides, planting more native trees etc

CrazyNeutrino said:

Stop it,

breeding bees is one way to help reduce a declining bee population.

other ways include reducing pesticides, planting more native trees etc

Some other time.

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Stop it,

breeding bees is one way to help reduce a declining bee population.

other ways include reducing pesticides, planting more native trees etc

Some other time.

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Stop it,

breeding bees is one way to help reduce a declining bee population.

other ways include reducing pesticides, planting more native trees etc

Some other time.

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

The ultimate fate of us all, just some get there faster.

• What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Proof reading is a good start…

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Stop it,

breeding bees is one way to help reduce a declining bee population.

other ways include reducing pesticides, planting more native trees etc

Some other time.

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Ill be reading up on bees,

Ill be recording any info I need to write down

in general bees are good at looking after themselves

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Some other time.

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Ill be reading up on bees,

Ill be recording any info I need to write down

in general bees are good at looking after themselves

Not you but in relation to your statement you wanted to keep bees and the insinuation it’s a bad idea.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

PermeateFree said:

Some other time.

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Ill be reading up on bees,

Ill be recording any info I need to write down

in general bees are good at looking after themselves

It can be said that bees are too good at looking after themselves.

Cymek said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

What can we do that someone with better knowledge won’t think of us are uneducated buffons

Ill be reading up on bees,

Ill be recording any info I need to write down

in general bees are good at looking after themselves

Not you but in relation to your statement you wanted to keep bees and the insinuation it’s a bad idea.

this is from the website

http://www.honeyflow.com/

Less labour, more love

Turn the Flow™ Key and watch as pure, fresh honey flows right out of the hive and into your jar.

No mess, no fuss, no heavy lifting, and no expensive processing equipment.

Through the clear end-frame view, you can see when the honey is ready without opening up the hive.

The extraction process is so gentle, the bees barely notice at all.

Our revolutionary Flow system makes the extraction process far less stressful for the bees and so much easier for the beekeeper.

another related website

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/flow-hive-honey-on-tap-directly-from-your-beehive#/story

CrazyNeutrino said:

I have bought a honeyflow device and plan to have a bee hive after I research what I need to know about farming bees

Buy the book, Beekeeping in Victoria.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Cymek said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Ill be reading up on bees,

Ill be recording any info I need to write down

in general bees are good at looking after themselves

Not you but in relation to your statement you wanted to keep bees and the insinuation it’s a bad idea.

this is from the website

http://www.honeyflow.com/

Less labour, more love

Turn the Flow™ Key and watch as pure, fresh honey flows right out of the hive and into your jar.

No mess, no fuss, no heavy lifting, and no expensive processing equipment.

Through the clear end-frame view, you can see when the honey is ready without opening up the hive.

The extraction process is so gentle, the bees barely notice at all.

Our revolutionary Flow system makes the extraction process far less stressful for the bees and so much easier for the beekeeper.

I’d be inclined to suggest that it will force the bees to work harder but I’d need to wait and see if that is actually the case.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I have bought a honeyflow device and plan to have a bee hive after I research what I need to know about farming bees

Buy the book, Beekeeping in Victoria.

thanks for the tip

CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I have bought a honeyflow device and plan to have a bee hive after I research what I need to know about farming bees

Buy the book, Beekeeping in Victoria.

thanks for the tip

It always was the apiarists bible for Australians.

I will need to register

from

http://agriculture.vic.gov.au/agriculture/livestock/honey-bees

Registration as a beekeper

Anyone who keeps one or more hives of bees is required to register with the Department of Economic Development, Jobs, Transport and Resources (DEDJTR) as a beekeeper.
Registration enables DEDJTR to conduct disease prevention and control programs for the benefit of beekeepers. This includes the mailing of helpful information from time to time.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Buy the book, Beekeeping in Victoria.

thanks for the tip

It always was the apiarists bible for Australians.

I decided against getting a bee hive as I can’t dedicate the time to look after one and you don’t really want them going rogue

Cymek said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

thanks for the tip

It always was the apiarists bible for Australians.

I decided against getting a bee hive as I can’t dedicate the time to look after one and you don’t really want them going rogue

An untended hive will continue to swarm for some time.

CrazyNeutrino said:

I will need to register

from

http://agriculture.vic.gov.au/agriculture/livestock/honey-bees

Registration as a beekeper

Anyone who keeps one or more hives of bees is required to register with the Department of Economic Development, Jobs, Transport and Resources (DEDJTR) as a beekeeper.
Registration enables DEDJTR to conduct disease prevention and control programs for the benefit of beekeepers. This includes the mailing of helpful information from time to time.

Not that anyone has ever checked my hives. They haven’t even sent me info for about 20 years.

During swarming season one with bee gear and knowledge can earn good money removing swarms from backyards. So much so that I knew a few who dropped them in a cardboard box and dumped that in the bush, Pocketed the fee.

It is a good way to build up your own hives as well as earn a few extra bucks.

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

FFS you only had to go back one page to find it.

ChrispenEvan said:

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

If you are talking to me. My question was about “which was in the ant thread”.

ChrispenEvan said:

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

RB posts so much you cannot expect him to remember where or even what he posts.

and then along came an ECHIDNA

Ants! Yum!

AwesomeO said:

ChrispenEvan said:

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

RB posts so much you cannot expect him to remember where or even what he posts.

Get your hand off your dick.

PermeateFree said:

AwesomeO said:

ChrispenEvan said:

which was in the ant thread. btw.

There is an ant thread? Maybe this grandstanding rubbish should be taken back to the appropriate area.

Perhaps if you spent a little time getting to know your Australian heritage, you might be a little more concerned for wildlife generally. And if you refer to me, then please do so using facts rather than making things up and then giving your interpretation of it.

Bite me bozo. It’s ants. I have made up nothing, you are grandstanding and looks like you are getting plenty of gratification. You are welcome to it.

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

ChrispenEvan said:

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

RB posts so much you cannot expect him to remember where or even what he posts.

Get your hand off your dick.

is that because his hand is covering one of your posts?

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

ChrispenEvan said:

this ant thread. there has only been one and you actually participated in it.

RB posts so much you cannot expect him to remember where or even what he posts.

Get your hand off your dick.

No it is true. You do post an awful lot.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

RB posts so much you cannot expect him to remember where or even what he posts.

Get your hand off your dick.

No it is true. You do post an awful lot.

Only when I’m reading and replying to posts like yours.

AwesomeO said:

PermeateFree said:

AwesomeO said:

There is an ant thread? Maybe this grandstanding rubbish should be taken back to the appropriate area.

Perhaps if you spent a little time getting to know your Australian heritage, you might be a little more concerned for wildlife generally. And if you refer to me, then please do so using facts rather than making things up and then giving your interpretation of it.

Bite me bozo. It’s ants. I have made up nothing, you are grandstanding and looks like you are getting plenty of gratification. You are welcome to it.

Instead of coming to silly conclusions, why don’t you read what I have written and then you may begin to understand.

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

Okay, so

1/ The “city” was found abandoned.

“A sophisticated underground ant city once populated by millions of insects has been discovered by a team of scientists.
The abandoned megalopolis, which features vast subterranean highways, paths and gardens, was found buried beneath the earth in Brazil.
It is thought to have housed one of the biggest ant colonies in the world. But no one is sure when the leafcutter species left and what caused their demise.”

2/ I just straight up do not share your concern for the welfare of ants, either as individuals or as colonies, and I don’t know of anyone who does. Concern for biodiversity is reasonable, so if the nest HADN’T been empty and this was an endangered species, then I might have had half a glimmer of an attopoofteenth of concern, but these Acromyrmex ants are very definitely “least concern”. To say “least concern” is a risible understatement, but that’s the mildest category the IUCN has. They don’t have a category that indicates that there are literally trillions of these fucking things and you couldn’t eradicate them if you tried, but that’s the status of these ants.

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Get your hand off your dick.

No it is true. You do post an awful lot.

Only when I’m reading and replying to posts like yours.

Yes replying to posts is generally the way you rack up your huge post counts.

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

Okay, so

1/ The “city” was found abandoned.

“A sophisticated underground ant city once populated by millions of insects has been discovered by a team of scientists.
The abandoned megalopolis, which features vast subterranean highways, paths and gardens, was found buried beneath the earth in Brazil.
It is thought to have housed one of the biggest ant colonies in the world. But no one is sure when the leafcutter species left and what caused their demise.”

2/ I just straight up do not share your concern for the welfare of ants, either as individuals or as colonies, and I don’t know of anyone who does. Concern for biodiversity is reasonable, so if the nest HADN’T been empty and this was an endangered species, then I might have had half a glimmer of an attopoofteenth of concern, but these Acromyrmex ants are very definitely “least concern”. To say “least concern” is a risible understatement, but that’s the mildest category the IUCN has. They don’t have a category that indicates that there are literally trillions of these fucking things and you couldn’t eradicate them if you tried, but that’s the status of these ants.

And the peculiar thing is this my friends
the song we sang on that fateful night it didn’t actually sound anything like this song

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

No it is true. You do post an awful lot.

Only when I’m reading and replying to posts like yours.

Yes replying to posts is generally the way you rack up your huge post counts.

No. It is because you all post your upstaging posts. I could ignore the mindset but it is my life’s work to expose the bullies.

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Only when I’m reading and replying to posts like yours.

Yes replying to posts is generally the way you rack up your huge post counts.

No. It is because you all post your upstaging posts. I could ignore the mindset but it is my life’s work to expose the bullies.

Should have got yourself a paying job.

roughbarked said:

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

What are you talking about?

I think it is great that these scientists poured cement down a large abandoned ant colony so that we can learn about the amazing structure of these cities and find out more about how these ants operate. PF reckons this is terrible and cruel and how can I be so heartless and why don’t I care about animals at all and so forth, and likens it to the killing of rare, large animals.
That’s the problem.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Yes replying to posts is generally the way you rack up your huge post counts.

No. It is because you all post your upstaging posts. I could ignore the mindset but it is my life’s work to expose the bullies.

Should have got yourself a paying job.

or gone into business with BC

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

Okay, so

1/ The “city” was found abandoned.

“A sophisticated underground ant city once populated by millions of insects has been discovered by a team of scientists.
The abandoned megalopolis, which features vast subterranean highways, paths and gardens, was found buried beneath the earth in Brazil.
It is thought to have housed one of the biggest ant colonies in the world. But no one is sure when the leafcutter species left and what caused their demise.”

2/ I just straight up do not share your concern for the welfare of ants, either as individuals or as colonies, and I don’t know of anyone who does. Concern for biodiversity is reasonable, so if the nest HADN’T been empty and this was an endangered species, then I might have had half a glimmer of an attopoofteenth of concern, but these Acromyrmex ants are very definitely “least concern”. To say “least concern” is a risible understatement, but that’s the mildest category the IUCN has. They don’t have a category that indicates that there are literally trillions of these fucking things and you couldn’t eradicate them if you tried, but that’s the status of these ants.

Why are you distorting what I have said? Is considering the welfare of other living things so alien to you? From my observations of your posts, things are either black or white, right or wrong, there is nothing between, which makes you a particularly difficult subject to influence one way or another, once your mind is made up. That dv is an attitude of mind, your mind, and something I was asking you to question, but alas that appears to be a lost cause.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Yes replying to posts is generally the way you rack up your huge post counts.

No. It is because you all post your upstaging posts. I could ignore the mindset but it is my life’s work to expose the bullies.

Should have got yourself a paying job.

Have had plenty of those and still do.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

What are you talking about?

I think it is great that these scientists poured cement down a large abandoned ant colony so that we can learn about the amazing structure of these cities and find out more about how these ants operate. PF reckons this is terrible and cruel and how can I be so heartless and why don’t I care about animals at all and so forth, and likens it to the killing of rare, large animals.
That’s the problem.

Yeah but you aren’t consumed with guilt at any level. The oil price tells me that.

So getting back to a science question, do insects that build hive structures all share a similar layout ?

diddly-squat said:

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

No. It is because you all post your upstaging posts. I could ignore the mindset but it is my life’s work to expose the bullies.

Should have got yourself a paying job.

or gone into business with BC

I can take a lot of shit but that last does raise my ire.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

What are you talking about?

I think it is great that these scientists poured cement down a large abandoned ant colony so that we can learn about the amazing structure of these cities and find out more about how these ants operate. PF reckons this is terrible and cruel and how can I be so heartless and why don’t I care about animals at all and so forth, and likens it to the killing of rare, large animals.
That’s the problem.

So the concrete nest was abandoned and the aluminum nest wasn’t?

You’re right, nothing about this consumes me with guilt. I think this is a wonderful thing and that there should be more like it. After all, there are tens of thousands of species of ant and presumably they operate in different ways.

Cymek said:

So getting back to a science question, do insects that build hive structures all share a similar layout ?

No. Beehives are very different from wasp hives.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Yeah. The point being.. How many echidna were starved by cementing ants nests?

It would also be interesting if these layouts are the most efficient design even for humans if we built large underground structures.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

What are you talking about?

I think it is great that these scientists poured cement down a large abandoned ant colony so that we can learn about the amazing structure of these cities and find out more about how these ants operate. PF reckons this is terrible and cruel and how can I be so heartless and why don’t I care about animals at all and so forth, and likens it to the killing of rare, large animals.
That’s the problem.

funny, that’s what I said… in fact I’d go so far as to suggest that doing things like this increase our ability to help conserve species.

dv said:

Cymek said:

So getting back to a science question, do insects that build hive structures all share a similar layout ?

No. Beehives are very different from wasp hives.

Yeah thats true

dv said:

roughbarked said:

dv said:

This is the greatest and best song in the world’s

tribute.

It isn’t that I disagree with you or others in this issue. The problem for many of you is that this also includes what PF is standing up for.

What are you talking about?

I think it is great that these scientists poured cement down a large abandoned ant colony so that we can learn about the amazing structure of these cities and find out more about how these ants operate. PF reckons this is terrible and cruel and how can I be so heartless and why don’t I care about animals at all and so forth, and likens it to the killing of rare, large animals.
That’s the problem.

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Cymek said:

So getting back to a science question, do insects that build hive structures all share a similar layout ?

Well, they dig tunnels and chambers, similar to human miners.

But relatively speaking ants are way out there.

diddly-squat said:

funny, that’s what I said…

Well you’re bound to get it right sometimes

CrazyNeutrino said:

So the concrete nest was abandoned and the aluminum nest wasn’t?

The aluminium one certainly wasn’t.

CrazyNeutrino said:

the point being that Enchidas eat billions of ants every year

Cymek said:

It would also be interesting if these layouts are the most efficient design even for humans if we built large underground structures.

but we do build large ug structures – albeit for very different reasons

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

So getting back to a science question, do insects that build hive structures all share a similar layout ?

Well, they dig tunnels and chambers, similar to human miners.

But relatively speaking ants are way out there.

As in far more complex ?

diddly-squat said:

funny, that’s what I said… in fact I’d go so far as to suggest that doing things like this increase our ability to help conserve species.

I haven’t argued against that.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

So the concrete nest was abandoned and the aluminum nest wasn’t?

The aluminium one certainly wasn’t.

I thought so

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

funny, that’s what I said…

Well you’re bound to get it right sometimes

even the sun shines on a dog’s arse some days

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

It would also be interesting if these layouts are the most efficient design even for humans if we built large underground structures.

but we do build large ug structures – albeit for very different reasons

True but would a layout similar to a massive ant hill be efficient for a very different species

dv said:

You’re right, nothing about this consumes me with guilt. I think this is a wonderful thing and that there should be more like it. After all, there are tens of thousands of species of ant and presumably they operate in different ways.

You remind me of the Japanese whaling fleets attitude.

PermeateFree said:

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Let it go PF. They who claim they don’t make many posts will only keep pulling the same strings all day despite the fact that they apparently should be at work, doing these jobs they have supposedy got.

i don’t know, go away for 5 minutes and all hell breaks lose.

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

It would also be interesting if these layouts are the most efficient design even for humans if we built large underground structures.

but we do build large ug structures – albeit for very different reasons

True but would a layout similar to a massive ant hill be efficient for a very different species

the reason an ant nest are built the way they are is presumably about:
- protection from predators
- temperature control

ChrispenEvan said:

i don’t know, go away for 5 minutes and all hell breaks lose.

Only because you ignited the fire starter.

diddly-squat said:

Cymek said:

diddly-squat said:

but we do build large ug structures – albeit for very different reasons

True but would a layout similar to a massive ant hill be efficient for a very different species

the reason an ant nest are built the way they are is presumably about:
- protection from predators
- temperature control

There is more to it than that, yes.

So we’re all agreed there’s nothing remotely wrong with pouring concrete down an abandoned ant nest to learn about its structure?

Forum: You betcha Bubblecar!

Terrific, I declare this bickering over.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Let it go PF. They who claim they don’t make many posts will only keep pulling the same strings all day despite the fact that they apparently should be at work, doing these jobs they have supposedy got.

Yes they are purposely misinterpreting my posts, which is unfortunate as they have learnt nothing, except reinforced their own destructive attitudes. Sometimes you just can’t win.

Bubblecar said:

So we’re all agreed there’s nothing remotely wrong with pouring concrete down an abandoned ant nest to learn about its structure?

Forum: You betcha Bubblecar!

Terrific, I declare this bickering over.

There’s nothing wrong with doing science. er unless your religion prevents that.

diddly-squat said:

- temperature control

Didn’t work very well in the aluminium jobby, wahey

Bubblecar said:

So we’re all agreed there’s nothing remotely wrong with pouring concrete down an abandoned ant nest to learn about its structure?

Forum: You betcha Bubblecar!

Terrific, I declare this bickering over.

Let’s hug

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Let it go PF. They who claim they don’t make many posts will only keep pulling the same strings all day despite the fact that they apparently should be at work, doing these jobs they have supposedy got.

God gave up and said “this is the last time I’ll destroy the earth to make you think. The next time will be down to you and there’s no way i’m coming back to help you with it”.
Yes they are purposely misinterpreting my posts, which is unfortunate as they have learnt nothing, except reinforced their own destructive attitudes. Sometimes you just can’t win.

dv said:

diddly-squat said:

- temperature control

Didn’t work very well in the aluminium jobby, wahey

:)

dv said:

Let’s hug

We’re all good friends in real life.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Let it go PF. They who claim they don’t make many posts will only keep pulling the same strings all day despite the fact that they apparently should be at work, doing these jobs they have supposedy got.

I guess that is referring got me, I never claimed I don’t make many posts, easy enough to check, it is just down there, I did however claim you make an awful lot of posts. Again easy enough to check, you wanna bet you don’t top the forum rankings as per usual if they are published?

• Didn’t work very well in the aluminium jobby, wahey

Nice one, centurion…

ants digging tunnels 900x life speed

This is a video of ants digging tunnels taken at 900x life speed. Three days of digging takes about 5 minutes.

AwesomeO said:

I guess that is referring got me, I never claimed I don’t make many posts, easy enough to check, it is just down there, I did however claim you make an awful lot of posts. Again easy enough to check, you wanna bet you don’t top the forum rankings as per usual if they are published?

There’s nothing necessarily wrong with posting a lot of posts.

AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

That is not my problem, but yours dv. It is a shame that you cannot open your mind and see what is actually being said, without confusing it with your own attitudes.

Let it go PF. They who claim they don’t make many posts will only keep pulling the same strings all day despite the fact that they apparently should be at work, doing these jobs they have supposedy got.

I guess that is referring got me, I never claimed I don’t make many posts, easy enough to check, it is just down there, I did however claim you make an awful lot of posts. Again easy enough to check, you wanna bet you don’t top the forum rankings as per usual if they are published?

The only time they have been published is at the time.. Let someone run that script for the year and see what happens.

I wonder if you could destroy ant society by introducing the concept of a union

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Let’s hug

We’re all good friends in real life.

Well I don’t know you in real life.

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Let’s hug

We’re all good friends in real life.

Well I don’t know you in real life.

The internet is part of real life. We’re not just imagining these exchanges.

• I wonder if you could destroy ant society by introducing the concept of a union

Or a republic…

planet of the ants?

Bubblecar said:

dv said:

Bubblecar said:

We’re all good friends in real life.

Well I don’t know you in real life.

The internet is part of real life. We’re not just imagining these exchanges.

Quite right.

ChrispenEvan said:

planet of the ants?

It is already that.

Mass of ants behaving as a fluid

CrazyNeutrino said:

Mass of ants behaving as a fluid

Have you googled fire ants yet?

I wonder if you could have a technogically advanced culture made up of a hive mind, would a lack of individual thought hinder or prevent the creation of tools

Cymek said:

I wonder if you could have a technogically advanced culture made up of a hive mind, would a lack of individual thought hinder or prevent the creation of tools

Doesn’t stop ants or bees using them.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Mass of ants behaving as a fluid

Have you googled fire ants yet?

the video has fire ants in it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_ant

they can give a nasty bite

Symptoms and treatment

The venom of fire ants is composed of alkaloids derived from piperidine (see Solenopsis saevissima). Some people are allergic to the venom, and as with many allergies, may experience anaphylaxis, which requires emergency treatment. Management of an emergency visit due to anaphylaxis is recommended with the use of adrenaline. The sting swells into a bump, which can cause much pain and irritation, especially when several stings are in the same place. The bump often forms into a white pustule, which can become infected if scratched, but if left alone will usually flatten within a few days. The pustules are obtrusive and uncomfortable while active and, if they become infected, can cause scarring.

First aid for fire ant stings includes external treatments and oral medicines. There are also many home remedies of varying efficacy, including immediate application of urine or aloe vera gel, the latter of which is also often included in over-the-counter creams that also include medically tested and verified treatments. External, topical treatments include the anesthetic benzocaine, the antihistamine diphenhydramine, and the corticosteroid hydrocortisone. Antihistamines or topical corticosteroids may help reduce the itching and will generally benefit local sting reactions. Oral medicine include antihistamines. Severe allergic reactions to fire ant stings, including severe chest pain, nausea, severe sweating, loss of breath, serious swelling, and slurred speech, can be fatal if not treated.

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if you could have a technogically advanced culture made up of a hive mind, would a lack of individual thought hinder or prevent the creation of tools

Doesn’t stop ants or bees using them.

We can make robots that play soccer. Therefore we can make robo-ants that do work.

CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Mass of ants behaving as a fluid

Have you googled fire ants yet?

the video has fire ants in it

That’s why I asked.

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Have you googled fire ants yet?

the video has fire ants in it

That’s why I asked.

ah! did more searching

you knew didnt you?

https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/plants/weeds-pest-animals-ants/invasive-ants/fire-ants

Join the ant hunt! The eradication of fire ants in South East Queensland depends on it.

CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

the video has fire ants in it

That’s why I asked.

ah! did more searching

you knew didnt you?

yes.

Better call FNDC, since I’ve just opened another bottle of bubbly.

Nice big slab of Atlantic salmon to bake for dinner. Not yet sure what will accompany it.

Derek and Clive: Squatter and the Ant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMd7MjE8uf0

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Cymek said:

I wonder if you could have a technogically advanced culture made up of a hive mind, would a lack of individual thought hinder or prevent the creation of tools

Doesn’t stop ants or bees using them.

We can make robots that play soccer. Therefore we can make robo-ants that do work.

Of course, if it doesn’t work out, you can always fire ants.

Rainier Wolfcastle: That was the joke.

dv said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Doesn’t stop ants or bees using them.

We can make robots that play soccer. Therefore we can make robo-ants that do work.

Of course, if it doesn’t work out, you can always fire ants.

Rainier Wolfcastle: That was the joke.

:) would fire the ants, have worked better?

no.