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What’s the GHG emissions of a completely paper census vs a completely online census?

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Sorry Fred Wong.

OCDC said:

Next one is going to be online except for buffy.

What’s the GHG emissions of a completely paper census vs a completely online census?

Oi! I’ll do it online if our Interwebs speed can get up beyond dialup level. Which it ain’t been lately.

It would depend on the source of the paper. Using plantation trees to make these hundreds of millions of pages of paper which will then go to landfill will take 500 to 1000 tonnes of GHGs out of the atmosphere (I have not massed a census lately). I’m assuming fairly few of them are burned in protest.

On the other hand, there are GHGs are associated with their distribution and collection. I do not have the data that would enable me to estimate these. Check with MZL.

And what about the GHGs associated with servers and individual census filler-inners?

I read something yonks ago about the GHGs associated with a single google search and I was surprised by how much it used.

OCDC said:

And what about the GHGs associated with servers and individual census filler-inners?

I read something yonks ago about the GHGs associated with a single google search and I was surprised by how much it used.

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Not even negigible.

OCDC said:

I read something yonks ago about the GHGs associated with a single google search and I was surprised by how much it used.

I remember seeing something about equivalent to amount of electricity needed to boil half a cup of water.

I don’t know why they need census data anyway.

They could just use the vast amounts of metadata that they’ve ripped.. give the spooks something to do.

0.0003 kWh per Google search.

They need a census because Australia does not have a uniform records system.

According to the Census website, the 2016 census is expected to require 327 fewer tonnes of paper than the 2011 jobby. This would be about 170 tonnes of carbon: corresponding to about extra 620 tonnes of carbon dioxide that will be in the atmosphere .

according to my last census I was a brain surgeon

Many people can’t agree on the definition of GHG emission for the full-life-cycle of anything. I had that problem when trying to figure out the best way to do full-life-cycle GHG net emission associated with algae growth CO2 sequestration for CSIRO. It turns out there isn’t a logical systematic way to do it.

I don’t generate that much GHG.

// according to my last census I was a brain surgeon

¿and then what happened?

Then the world shifted on its hinges

I think we should all agree to have our census done by the Greeks. Then we’d have a Con census.

I wonder if they have reworded the religion question.

They were taking submissions a while back, for suggestions on rewording the question.

Asking “what is your religion” instead of “are you religious”, is very presumptuous.

Skeptic Pete said:

I wonder if they have reworded the religion question.

They were taking submissions a while back, for suggestions on rewording the question.

Asking “what is your religion” instead of “are you religious”, is very presumptuous.

Perhaps they should say “If you have a mental disease (religion) what is that disease?”

Skeptic Pete said:

I wonder if they have reworded the religion question.

They were taking submissions a while back, for suggestions on rewording the question.

Asking “what is your religion” instead of “are you religious”, is very presumptuous.

or simply; Q 32: Do you have a religious belief? If not move on to question 56

bob(from black rock) said:

Skeptic Pete said:

I wonder if they have reworded the religion question.

They were taking submissions a while back, for suggestions on rewording the question.

Asking “what is your religion” instead of “are you religious”, is very presumptuous.

Perhaps they should say “If you have a mental disease (religion) what is that disease?”

In that instance it would be simpler to move the religion questions to the disability section.

I think computerisation for the most part has led to more paper usage as its so easy to print out a document. Our office in the last 5 years has photocopied nearly a million pages of documents and the two printers probably a few hundred thousand. The law courts recently moved to a computerised system for prosecution notices and for us this means even more paperwork as every single charge now generates a seperate order/outcome and every single court appearance is attached to each one. Having the census online probably saves more GHG emission not from less paper usuage but from not having people drive around collecting them from houses.