Was recently invited to update from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and accepted. I seem to be on the bleeding edge because help files for my problems haven’t appeared on the web yet. As for help files on my computer – they vanished many years ago.

The update process to Windows 10 was surprisingly painless. I needed to respecify my preference for a few default options (such as Chrome rather than Edge for browser).

The main annoyances so far are the things that have been deleted by the system in going to Windows 10.

1) I can no longer log off or switch users in Windows 10 – unless I “ctrl alt del”. Yuk.

2) A bug I had in Windows 7 becomes much worse in Windows 10. Before, from the logon screen I had to click “switch user” and type my username. The “switch user” has vanished from Windows 10. Now it automatically logs me in under the wrong username then I have to “ctrl alt del” to get back to the login screen.

3) The new “scientific” calculator in Windows 10 doesn’t have an “inv” button so now I can’t do arcsin or arcsinh. That’s no use.

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

5) There’s also a popup window that activates on every login warning me about starting the window manager twice, that I have to manually kill. I’m sure they’ll have a patch for that soon if not already.

6) Annoyances from Windows 7 haven’t been fixed – such as displaying all desktop icons on login and then deleting all desktop icons before slowly reprinting them. That bug should have been fixed by now.

mollwollfumble said:

Was recently invited to update from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and accepted. I seem to be on the bleeding edge because help files for my problems haven’t appeared on the web yet. As for help files on my computer – they vanished many years ago.

The update process to Windows 10 was surprisingly painless. I needed to respecify my preference for a few default options (such as Chrome rather than Edge for browser).

The main annoyances so far are the things that have been deleted by the system in going to Windows 10.

1) I can no longer log off or switch users in Windows 10 – unless I “ctrl alt del”. Yuk.

2) A bug I had in Windows 7 becomes much worse in Windows 10. Before, from the logon screen I had to click “switch user” and type my username. The “switch user” has vanished from Windows 10. Now it automatically logs me in under the wrong username then I have to “ctrl alt del” to get back to the login screen.

3) The new “scientific” calculator in Windows 10 doesn’t have an “inv” button so now I can’t do arcsin or arcsinh. That’s no use.

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

5) There’s also a popup window that activates on every login warning me about starting the window manager twice, that I have to manually kill. I’m sure they’ll have a patch for that soon if not already.

6) Annoyances from Windows 7 haven’t been fixed – such as displaying all desktop icons on login and then deleting all desktop icons before slowly reprinting them. That bug should have been fixed by now.

7) I can tell I’m going soon to hate the error message Windows 10 “ran into an error and needs to reboot”. That’s the Windows 10 message telling you you’re stuffed. I wasn’t expecting to get one so soon.

I don’t switch users, there’s only me, so I don’t have that problem.
I knew Minesweeper and Hearts disappeared with Win 10. It sucks :(
I don’t like the photo viewer and the convoluted way to sync photos from my phone to Win 10.

Other than that, I like it a lot.

>>I knew Minesweeper and Hearts disappeared with Win 10

What, no Minesweeper?
I’ll stick with Windows Millennium thank you very much.

Peak Warming Man said:

>>I knew Minesweeper and Hearts disappeared with Win 10

What, no Minesweeper?
I’ll stick with Windows Millennium thank you very much.

lol.

Can’t say I’ve had any of those issues with Win 10, excepting the minesweeper one, but I haven’t looked.

it seems alright on my computer.
It has sped up everything that i was having lagging issues with before, except facebook, which is dead slow and continually throws up ‘unresponsive script’ errors

>>except facebook, which is dead slow and continually throws up

I’ve heard that.

Peak Warming Man said:

>>except facebook, which is dead slow and continually throws up

I’ve heard that.

just like kii’s cat…

1) and 2) fixed. It hadn’t occurred to me that I need to click on the astrological symbol of Taurus to logout and switch users, but miss m spotted it immediately. And miss m’s password stops the PC from getting stuck in her account accidentally. For some weird reason she doesn’t mind Windows 10 logging her automatically into my account.

7) worse. Full message “Your PC ran into a problem and needs to restart. …”
Has happened twice now, both times after restarting using power button.

8) Windows 10 makes a great clock. I can sit there during startup just watching the minutes tick by. Last reboot took 10 minutes. But I think I can speed that up.

Do you like Windows 10 minus the problems?
I’ve not felt the need to update as I Iike Windows 7

Cymek said:

Do you like Windows 10 minus the problems?
I’ve not felt the need to update as I Iike Windows 7

Ditto about Windows 7, I’ve never felt the need for an update, thought I’d take the chance.

Ask somebody who’s been using Windows 10 for longer. For me it’s still fingers crossed time.

For me the only huge plus for Windows 10 is that it has a search for files on computer that really works – finally Microsoft got it right!
The installation of Windows 10 is free and almost totally painless.

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Do you like Windows 10 minus the problems?
I’ve not felt the need to update as I Iike Windows 7

Ditto about Windows 7, I’ve never felt the need for an update, thought I’d take the chance.

Ask somebody who’s been using Windows 10 for longer. For me it’s still fingers crossed time.

For me the only huge plus for Windows 10 is that it has a search for files on computer that really works – finally Microsoft got it right!
The installation of Windows 10 is free and almost totally painless.

Not free for me, AFAIK.

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Cymek said:

Do you like Windows 10 minus the problems?
I’ve not felt the need to update as I Iike Windows 7

Ditto about Windows 7, I’ve never felt the need for an update, thought I’d take the chance.

Ask somebody who’s been using Windows 10 for longer. For me it’s still fingers crossed time.

For me the only huge plus for Windows 10 is that it has a search for files on computer that really works – finally Microsoft got it right!
The installation of Windows 10 is free and almost totally painless.

Not free for me, AFAIK.

Not still using XP are you?

poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

mollwollfumble said:

Ditto about Windows 7, I’ve never felt the need for an update, thought I’d take the chance.

Ask somebody who’s been using Windows 10 for longer. For me it’s still fingers crossed time.

For me the only huge plus for Windows 10 is that it has a search for files on computer that really works – finally Microsoft got it right!
The installation of Windows 10 is free and almost totally painless.

Not free for me, AFAIK.

Not still using XP are you?

Yep.

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Michael V said:

Not free for me, AFAIK.

Not still using XP are you?

Yep.

you really need to update

are you still getting security updates?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Michael V said:

poikilotherm said:

Not still using XP are you?

Yep.

you really need to update

are you still getting security updates?

Nope.

Michael V said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Michael V said:

Yep.

you really need to update

are you still getting security updates?

Nope.

Why do I “really need to update”?

Michael V said:

Michael V said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

you really need to update

are you still getting security updates?

Nope.

Why do I “really need to update”?

bug fixes and security updates mostly

XP is mostly bug-free. Security is only a slight issue.

The cost unfortunately, is the real issue. I’d probably have to buy a new computer to carry the new OS, then I’d have to buy a new Mapinfo with Discover 3D (likely $5k) and other new programs. Then I’d have to learn it all again…

psstt Micheal… over here… want to buy a copy of Windows 8… cheap

Ian said:

psstt Micheal… over here… want to buy a copy of Windows 8… cheap

Goodonya!

;)

personally i’m going to wait until windows goes to 11.

JudgeMental said:

personally i’m going to wait until windows goes to 11.

:-)

JudgeMental said:

personally i’m going to wait until windows goes to 11.

they might skip 11 and go straight to 12

happened with version 9

mollwollfumble said:

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

This should be #1!

Looks like my cute little car and I will stick with 3.1.

Ah yes, only free (so far) for Windows 7 & 8 users.

mollwollfumble said:

8) Windows 10 makes a great clock. I can sit there during startup just watching the minutes tick by. Last reboot took 10 minutes. But I think I can speed that up.

Cripes, it’s sped up all right. It now takes only about 30 seconds from switch-on to surfing the internet. My cleaning up my desktop would have helped, but most of the improvement is Windows 10.

mollwollfumble said:

3) The new “scientific” calculator in Windows 10 doesn’t have an “inv” button so now I can’t do arcsin or arcsinh. That’s no use.

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

These can be downloaded from web. The old Windows 7 games (minesweeper, hearts etc.) from “http://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/“http://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/

and the old Windows 7 calculator from
http://winaero.com/blog/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-windows-7-in-windows-10/
I’ve kept both old and new calculators because the new one is better for units conversion.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

3) The new “scientific” calculator in Windows 10 doesn’t have an “inv” button so now I can’t do arcsin or arcsinh. That’s no use.

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

These can be downloaded from web. The old Windows 7 games (minesweeper, hearts etc.) from
http://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/

and the old Windows 7 calculator from
http://winaero.com/blog/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-windows-7-in-windows-10/
I’ve kept both old and new calculators because the new one is better for units conversion.

Windows 10 does an excellent job of retaining the bugs from Windows 7. I have a copy of genealogy program “brothers keeper” that needs to be started 3 times on Windows 7 to get it to run. First time it’s started it bombs with error “not enough space for environment”, second time it’s started it bombs with “general protection fault”, third time it’s started it opens perfectly as it should. Exactl;y the same in Windows 10.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

3) The new “scientific” calculator in Windows 10 doesn’t have an “inv” button so now I can’t do arcsin or arcsinh. That’s no use.

4) The game minesweeper has been deleted from my machine. And no – a copy on the web is not a substitute.

These can be downloaded from web. The old Windows 7 games (minesweeper, hearts etc.) from
http://winaero.com/blog/get-windows-7-games-for-windows-10/

and the old Windows 7 calculator from
http://winaero.com/blog/get-calculator-from-windows-8-and-windows-7-in-windows-10/
I’ve kept both old and new calculators because the new one is better for units conversion.

Windows 10 does an excellent job of retaining the bugs from Windows 7. I have a copy of genealogy program “brothers keeper” that needs to be started 3 times on Windows 7 to get it to run. First time it’s started it bombs with error “not enough space for environment”, second time it’s started it bombs with “general protection fault”, third time it’s started it opens perfectly as it should. Exactl;y the same in Windows 10.

On retaining bugs. This is something that has ensued from creation. it is the main thing that apple fanbois have to exclaim about.

mollwollfumble said:

I have a copy of genealogy program “brothers keeper” that needs to be started 3 times on Windows 7 to get it to run. First time it’s started it bombs with error “not enough space for environment”, second time it’s started it bombs with “general protection fault”, third time it’s started it opens perfectly as it should. Exactl;y the same in Windows 10.

I’m not sure that’s a bug with Windows. Sounds like a bug with Brothers Keeper. Have you tried running it on a non-Windows machine?

Divine Angel said:

mollwollfumble said:

I have a copy of genealogy program “brothers keeper” that needs to be started 3 times on Windows 7 to get it to run. First time it’s started it bombs with error “not enough space for environment”, second time it’s started it bombs with “general protection fault”, third time it’s started it opens perfectly as it should. Exactl;y the same in Windows 10.

I’m not sure that’s a bug with Windows. Sounds like a bug with Brothers Keeper. Have you tried running it on a non-Windows machine?

+1

Even when told not to, Windows 10 just can’t stop talking to Microsoft It’s no wonder that privacy activists are up in arms.

Windows 10 uses the Internet a lot to support many of its features. The operating system also sports numerous knobs to twiddle that are supposed to disable most of these features and the potentially privacy-compromising connections that go with them.

Unfortunately for privacy advocates, these controls don’t appear to be sufficient to completely prevent the operating system from going online and communicating with Microsoft’s servers.

For example, even with Cortana and searching the Web from the Start menu disabled, opening Start and typing will send a request to www.bing.com to request a file called threshold.appcache which appears to contain some Cortana information, even though Cortana is disabled. The request for this file appears to contain a random machine ID that persists across reboots.

more…

Prevent Windows 10 From Automatically Restarting Your PC After Updating

poikilotherm said:

Not still using XP are you?

I am still running XP on a laptop that just sits on a bench and runs a slideshow on a projector all day and it’s doing a fabulous job. All day every day for 3 years. Bombproof.

:-)

Windows 10 Is Hiding A Great Video Capture Tool

CrazyNeutrino said:

Windows 10 Is Hiding A Great Video Capture Tool

“Windows will ask you to confirm that the program is a game, before starting Game DVR.)”

I wonder why, if it has to be a game that rules out using it on the programmes in my machine.

Windows 10 warning. Computer reboots over and over. My computer rebooted 7 times in a row yesterday, despite trying to fix between restarts. See
Windows 10 Warning: Latest Updates Are Crashing PCs

mollwollfumble said:

Windows 10 warning. Computer reboots over and over. My computer rebooted 7 times in a row yesterday, despite trying to fix between restarts. See
Windows 10 Warning: Latest Updates Are Crashing PCs

Stop it from updating.

mollwollfumble said:

7) I can tell I’m going soon to hate the error message Windows 10 “ran into an error and needs to reboot”. That’s the Windows 10 message telling you you’re stuffed. I wasn’t expecting to get one so soon.

Uninstalled Windows 10, gone back to Windows 7.

For three days running the computer went into an infinite reboot loop every time Windows 10 was started. Reboot was created in at least four different ways, the worst type was “DPC watchdog violation”, which happened over and over again.

mollwollfumble said:

mollwollfumble said:

7) I can tell I’m going soon to hate the error message Windows 10 “ran into an error and needs to reboot”. That’s the Windows 10 message telling you you’re stuffed. I wasn’t expecting to get one so soon.

Uninstalled Windows 10, gone back to Windows 7.

For three days running the computer went into an infinite reboot loop every time Windows 10 was started. Reboot was created in at least four different ways, the worst type was “DPC watchdog violation”, which happened over and over again.

So Molly, I was tossing up about windows 10, do you think I should not bother with Windows 10 ?

• the worst type was

How is one unnecessary reboot worse than another?