Date: 19/08/2015 15:56:37
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 763398
Subject: Magpies singing after midnight

What are the usual hours they sing at? I have heard them on two occasions singing at about 2 am and on neither occasion was there a lot of moon light.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:00:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 763407
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

bob(from black rock) said:

What are the usual hours they sing at? I have heard them on two occasions singing at about 2 am and on neither occasion was there a lot of moon light.

They quite often sing in the middle of the night around here, in good weather.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:02:17
From: Cymek
ID: 763408
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Bubblecar said:


bob(from black rock) said:

What are the usual hours they sing at? I have heard them on two occasions singing at about 2 am and on neither occasion was there a lot of moon light.

They quite often sing in the middle of the night around here, in good weather.

Yes I hear them as well, perhaps they sing if they wake up in the middle of the night

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:03:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 763409
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

They are diurnal in their habits but known to enjoy a bit of vocalising in the wee hours now & then.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:03:50
From: furious
ID: 763410
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Probably warning each other about cats or some such…

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:09:28
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 763411
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

They are trying to sing you to sleep. Your thoughts disturb theirs…………..

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:13:28
From: Cymek
ID: 763412
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Perhaps the young adult magpies are just getting home, get told off by mum and dad and are the singing means “You aren’t the boss of me!”

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:21:24
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 763416
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Cymek said:


Perhaps the young adult magpies are just getting home, get told off by mum and dad and are the singing means “You aren’t the boss of me!”

I think you might have just nailed the impression I got the other night listening to them.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:23:53
From: sibeen
ID: 763417
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to be free.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:48:03
From: dv
ID: 763423
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

It’s always after midnight.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:48:10
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 763424
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

OK, thanks folks, so it sounds like I didn’t imagine this.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:50:44
From: buffy
ID: 763427
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

They will sing all night if the moon is full or nearly full. At our place you can stand outside and hear them carolling at each other all over town. I understand it is indeed the young males who do this mostly.

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:51:18
From: furious
ID: 763429
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

That’s what I said about Gremlins…

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Date: 19/08/2015 16:52:50
From: dv
ID: 763433
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

furious said:

  • It’s always after midnight.

That’s what I said about Gremlins…

And you were right.

Stupid movie … it’s after midnight all fucking day.

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Date: 20/08/2015 05:50:10
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 763578
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

bob(from black rock) said:

What are the usual hours they sing at? I have heard them on two occasions singing at about 2 am and on neither occasion was there a lot of moon light.

Not here, and that’s only a couple of suburbs away. There are a few birds that I’ve known to sing around 2 am, including koel (in Bowral), seagull and masked lapwing (spur-winged plover). From vague memory there have been quite a few others, magpie-lark?. I once accidentally woke a blue wren in the early morning – who scolded me.

I have a recording of part of the dawn chorus from Westgate Park if that helps, but that’s much later in the morning. I also (somewhere) noted when each bird around here woke up one morning.

Jet lag perhaps?

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:12:40
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 763596
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

dv said:


It’s always after midnight.

Thanks, sorry, after midnight, but before Sun rise.

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:19:39
From: Arts
ID: 763600
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

it’s breeding season

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:33:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 763602
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

buffy said:

They will sing all night if the moon is full or nearly full. At our place you can stand outside and hear them carolling at each other all over town. I understand it is indeed the young males who do this mostly.

Yes. It is the young birds.

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:44:51
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 763613
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

They will sing all night if the moon is full or nearly full. At our place you can stand outside and hear them carolling at each other all over town. I understand it is indeed the young males who do this mostly.

Yes. It is the young birds.

Yeah “Hey George I just shagged your sister” , “Yeah Fred well I just shagged your Mum and your sister and they are both better Roots than you!

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:46:33
From: Arts
ID: 763615
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

it’s not just young birds. it’s done by mating couples who are expressing territorial rights.

“These calls are connected to territorial defence, serving as a sonic claim to a defined area. They are often made by a single bird then affirmed by a response from a partner; this “duet” asserts the pair’s control of the territory, and warns other magpies against intrusion. This control becomes especially important during the mating season, which is why adult birds can sometimes be heard nocturnally in this period. (This is also the season during which a minority of male birds will “swoop” at humans traversing their territory.)

Furthermore, this night-singing serves to assist in the retention of a strong pair bond, an imperative which is again closely linked to the mating season.”

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Date: 20/08/2015 09:46:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 763616
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

bob(from black rock) said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

They will sing all night if the moon is full or nearly full. At our place you can stand outside and hear them carolling at each other all over town. I understand it is indeed the young males who do this mostly.

Yes. It is the young birds.

Yeah “Hey George I just shagged your sister” , “Yeah Fred well I just shagged your Mum and your sister and they are both better Roots than you!

They aren’t Greek.

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Date: 20/08/2015 10:06:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 763629
Subject: re: Magpies singing after midnight

Arts said:


it’s not just young birds. it’s done by mating couples who are expressing territorial rights.

“These calls are connected to territorial defence, serving as a sonic claim to a defined area. They are often made by a single bird then affirmed by a response from a partner; this “duet” asserts the pair’s control of the territory, and warns other magpies against intrusion. This control becomes especially important during the mating season, which is why adult birds can sometimes be heard nocturnally in this period. (This is also the season during which a minority of male birds will “swoop” at humans traversing their territory.)

Furthermore, this night-singing serves to assist in the retention of a strong pair bond, an imperative which is again closely linked to the mating season.”

Well done.

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