Date: 20/08/2015 20:02:36
From: sibeen
ID: 763754
Subject: Unconsious

I never thought it would happen to me, but a few weeks ago I found myself lying on my bed, talking to a strange woman. I was having a nice lucid conversation with her, and then it was instant lights out. No preview, no grasping at my chest, no histronics, just instant unconscious.

What physiological reason caused me to go from a thinking state to one of instant loss of consciousness when the heart attack hit?

I would have thought I would have had at least some time for a good chest grabbing, wide eyed look of despair, or just some great histrionics, but I was denied all this.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:04:40
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 763756
Subject: re: Unconsious

a data set of one is not much to form a hypothesis on.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:06:11
From: AwesomeO
ID: 763757
Subject: re: Unconsious

sibeen said:


I never thought it would happen to me, but a few weeks ago I found myself lying on my bed, talking to a strange woman. I was having a nice lucid conversation with her, and then it was instant lights out. No preview, no grasping at my chest, no histronics, just instant unconscious.

What physiological reason caused me to go from a thinking state to one of instant loss of consciousness when the heart attack hit?

I would have thought I would have had at least some time for a good chest grabbing, wide eyed look of despair, or just some great histrionics, but I was denied all this.

Maybe you did grab your chest with a wide eyed look of dispair but you cannot recall the last 50 seconds prior to falling unconscious, the brain never got a chance to store it away in long term storage.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:08:32
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 763758
Subject: re: Unconsious

No blood to the brain.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:10:04
From: AwesomeO
ID: 763759
Subject: re: Unconsious

Peak Warming Man said:


No blood to the brain.

Aye, sudden loss of blood pressure can lead to instant lights out.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:11:13
From: sibeen
ID: 763761
Subject: re: Unconsious

AwesomeO said:

Maybe you did grab your chest with a wide eyed look of dispair but you cannot recall the last 50 seconds prior to falling unconscious, the brain never got a chance to store it away in long term storage.

Nah, SWMBO reckons I just went rigid and nothing else.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:23:19
From: kii
ID: 763764
Subject: re: Unconsious

Who was the strange woman?

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:24:06
From: sibeen
ID: 763765
Subject: re: Unconsious

kii said:


Who was the strange woman?

Ambulance officer.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:29:30
From: Divine Angel
ID: 763766
Subject: re: Unconsious

Oh, so it was a physical woman and not a ghost?

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:30:56
From: sibeen
ID: 763767
Subject: re: Unconsious

Divine Angel said:


Oh, so it was a physical woman and not a ghost?

As she was vigourously banging on my chest shortly afterwards I can be fairly certain that she was not a figment of my imagination.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:31:24
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 763768
Subject: re: Unconsious

You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:34:19
From: sibeen
ID: 763769
Subject: re: Unconsious

Peak Warming Man said:


You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

I’ve got a vague memory of meeting 72 bogans.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:38:44
From: kii
ID: 763771
Subject: re: Unconsious

sibeen said:


kii said:

Who was the strange woman?

Ambulance officer.

Ah, so she was supposed to be there? Not just some random person off the street .

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:39:43
From: Divine Angel
ID: 763773
Subject: re: Unconsious

sibeen said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

I’ve got a vague memory of meeting 72 bogans.

I’ve heard of double vision but 72 is just extreme.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:41:45
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 763775
Subject: re: Unconsious

Divine Angel said:


sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

I’ve got a vague memory of meeting 72 bogans.

I’ve heard of double vision but 72 is just extreme.

can’t help you with that one, I was fast asleep when my heart tried to stop.
regaining consciousness in the middle of it is a weird sensation though

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:47:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 763777
Subject: re: Unconsious

when you go you don’t know you’ve gone , it all just disappears , no pain. any anxiety you had disappears too there’s no darkness , no white lights just nothingness and everything you know disappears too.

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Date: 20/08/2015 20:49:05
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 763778
Subject: re: Unconsious

Before a heart attack people often have a feeling of foreboding, apparently.

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Date: 20/08/2015 21:06:07
From: wookiemeister
ID: 763782
Subject: re: Unconsious

Peak Warming Man said:


You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

you never see the speed cameras in those tunnels either that steal your soul

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Date: 21/08/2015 00:44:31
From: transition
ID: 763858
Subject: re: Unconsious

perhaps related

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncope_(medicine)

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Date: 21/08/2015 08:36:22
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 763882
Subject: re: Unconsious

AwesomeO said:


Peak Warming Man said:

No blood to the brain.

Aye, sudden loss of blood pressure can lead to instant lights out.

I use to spend a lot of time and money to get those conditions.

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Date: 21/08/2015 09:48:16
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 763942
Subject: re: Unconsious

you spelt “unconscious” wrong in the thread title.

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Date: 21/08/2015 09:48:59
From: sibeen
ID: 763943
Subject: re: Unconsious

I c.

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Date: 21/08/2015 14:02:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 764031
Subject: re: Unconsious

It’s quite simple really, Jesus wanted you to carry the drinks for the Heaven XI

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:24:15
From: Rule 303
ID: 764117
Subject: re: Unconsious

My understanding is that the crushing-chest-pain/left-arm-pain stereotype is actually pretty unusual, and that moderate symptoms like a feeling of indigestion, pale, clammy, sweaty, nauseous, breathless, anxious, pain anywhere between the jaw and hips, and a sense of impending doom, are vastly more common.

The brain switches off 20-30sec after the O2 stops. You might be very lucky the Ambo was there.

A friend of Mrs. Rule popped his clogs a few weeks ago. 48yo bloke, two little kids and a baby, rang his wife when he should have rang an ambulance.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:30:16
From: Speedy
ID: 764121
Subject: re: Unconsious

Mr Speedy’s uncle complained of pain between his shoulder blades in the hours before he collapsed and died from a heart attack.

I hadn’t heard about the impending doom thing. I guess that’s just another way to say you simply feel “yuck”.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:32:18
From: Cymek
ID: 764122
Subject: re: Unconsious

Speedy said:


Mr Speedy’s uncle complained of pain between his shoulder blades in the hours before he collapsed and died from a heart attack.

I hadn’t heard about the impending doom thing. I guess that’s just another way to say you simply feel “yuck”.

Those symptoms are a worry I feel like that quite often

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:33:35
From: Divine Angel
ID: 764123
Subject: re: Unconsious

Anxiety attacks can also share those symptoms.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:33:51
From: Arts
ID: 764124
Subject: re: Unconsious

yeah saying a ‘feeling of impending doom’ is not really clinical …

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:34:07
From: Rule 303
ID: 764125
Subject: re: Unconsious

Speedy said:

I hadn’t heard about the impending doom thing. I guess that’s just another way to say you simply feel “yuck”.

I guess there’s some variation, but the feeling is quite distinct. It’s a profound sense of uneasiness.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:34:42
From: Rule 303
ID: 764127
Subject: re: Unconsious

Divine Angel said:


Anxiety attacks can also share those symptoms.

Anxiety attacks can also be heart attacks.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:36:27
From: Rule 303
ID: 764128
Subject: re: Unconsious

Arts said:


yeah saying a ‘feeling of impending doom’ is not really clinical …

My understanding is that it’s an identifiable symptom common in a few conditions.

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:36:43
From: poikilotherm
ID: 764129
Subject: re: Unconsious

Rule 303 said:


Speedy said:
I hadn’t heard about the impending doom thing. I guess that’s just another way to say you simply feel “yuck”.

I guess there’s some variation, but the feeling is quite distinct. It’s a profound sense of uneasiness.

Like an impending sense of doom?

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Date: 21/08/2015 17:40:58
From: Rule 303
ID: 764136
Subject: re: Unconsious

poikilotherm said:

Like an impending sense of doom?

Very close.

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Date: 21/08/2015 23:04:09
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 764274
Subject: re: Unconsious

Peak Warming Man said:


You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

I do. But I wasn’t near death at the time, I was deliberately following a mental path of maximum fear, until I defeated it.

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Date: 21/08/2015 23:10:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 764280
Subject: re: Unconsious

mollwollfumble said:


Peak Warming Man said:

You probably don’t remember walking along a tunnel towards a light, a blindingly white light, either.

I do. But I wasn’t near death at the time, I was deliberately following a mental path of maximum fear, until I defeated it.

My dad described it to me as;

My mates were driving away on smooth roads with booze and birds, calling “come with us”

I had to tell them that I was compelled to climb the rocky cliff to the light that was drawing me.

all the time, one doctor was walking away to wash his hands saying, “he’s gone” The other, a visiting specialist, put his hands in the open cavity and massaged the heart.

Dad survived for the rest of my life until I reached 17. I was one at the time he had his guts out on a table beside him.

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Date: 22/08/2015 09:09:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 764425
Subject: re: Unconsious

this is quite good sibeen.

Medical MCQ heart rhythm disorders

video

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Date: 26/08/2015 02:19:39
From: SCIENCE
ID: 766352
Subject: re: Unconsious

it doesn’t hurt to black out

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