Date: 26/08/2015 10:52:04
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766470
Subject: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

In a heavily-guarded lab in Florence, many hundreds of a new type of marijuana plant are being grown. It’s part of the Italian army’s latest mission, to grow medical grade cannabis for the nation.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:39:36
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 766778
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Watching “stacey dooley investigates” about marijuana last night.

Latest high risk is mixing 10% heroin into illegal marijuana to make it highly addictive.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:43:27
From: Boris
ID: 766784
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Latest high risk is mixing 10% heroin into illegal marijuana to make it highly addictive.

shit like that has been happening for years. 40 that i personally know of and it probably happened before then.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:44:03
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 766786
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:45:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 766788
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

mollwollfumble said:


Watching “stacey dooley investigates” about marijuana last night.

Latest high risk is mixing 10% heroin into illegal marijuana to make it highly addictive.

Nothing new. Opiated hashish is where the word assassain originates.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:47:28
From: Boris
ID: 766790
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

we get a few on the sssf fb page. they either change their ways and get with the program or not.

;-)

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:48:31
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766791
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

Most of thm just want the right to get high and using medicinal as an end run around the regulations. Going to suck for them when the active agents are identified and put into capsules without the high. They would have lobbied for something they don’t actually want.

Better off being honest about it, make an argument that law enforcement is rediculously expensive for something anyone can grow, and legislate it instead as something akin to home brew. You can make your own but don’t sell it. Don’t drive under the influence, and don’t give it to kids.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:48:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 766792
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

Cannabis cures nothing but prevention has always been better than a cure and many herbs help prevent. Which is why they make up much of the chemical analysis of the drugs we manufacture.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:48:43
From: Boris
ID: 766793
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

The name “Assassin” is often said to derive from the Arabic word Hashishin or “users of hashish”, a misnomer thought to have been derogatory and used by their adversaries during the Middle Ages. Originally applied to the Nizari Ismaelis by the Mustali Ismailis during the fall of the decaying Ismaili Fatimid Empire and the separation of the two streams, it is possible that the term hashishiyya or hashishi in Muslim sources was used metaphorically in its abusive sense (i.e. “social outcasts”, “low-class rabble”, etc.), while the literal interpretation of this term in referring to the Nizaris (as hashish consuming intoxicated assassins) may be rooted in the fantasies of medieval Westerners.

wiki assassin

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:52:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 766797
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Boris said:


The name “Assassin” is often said to derive from the Arabic word Hashishin or “users of hashish”, a misnomer thought to have been derogatory and used by their adversaries during the Middle Ages. Originally applied to the Nizari Ismaelis by the Mustali Ismailis during the fall of the decaying Ismaili Fatimid Empire and the separation of the two streams, it is possible that the term hashishiyya or hashishi in Muslim sources was used metaphorically in its abusive sense (i.e. “social outcasts”, “low-class rabble”, etc.), while the literal interpretation of this term in referring to the Nizaris (as hashish consuming intoxicated assassins) may be rooted in the fantasies of medieval Westerners.

wiki assassin


.. OK.

Wiki is master.

The story behind the attribution, related as much to the fact that the hashassassains were so drugged up that they could sustain heaps of injury before they were able to finish their task. Which after all was why they were doing it.

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Date: 26/08/2015 19:52:32
From: Boris
ID: 766798
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

According to Lebanese writer Amin Maalouf:

Their contemporaries in the Muslim world would call them hash-ishiyun, “hashish-smokers”; some orientalists thought that this was the origin of the word “assassin”, which in many European languages was more terrifying yet … The truth is different. According to texts that have come down to us from Alamut, Hassan-i Sabbah liked to call his disciples Asasiyun, meaning people who are faithful to the Asās, meaning “foundation” of the faith. This is the word, misunderstood by foreign travellers, that seemed similar to “hashish”.

Another modern author, Edward Burman, states that:

Many scholars have argued, and demonstrated convincingly, that the attribution of the epithet “hashish eaters” or “hashish takers” is a misnomer derived from enemies of the Isma’ilis and was never used by Muslim chroniclers or sources. It was therefore used in a pejorative sense of “enemies” or “disreputable people”. This sense of the term survived into modern times with the common Egyptian usage of the term Hashasheen in the 1930s to mean simply “noisy or riotous”. It is unlikely that the austere Hassan-i Sabbah indulged personally in drug taking … there is no mention of that drug hashish in connection with the Persian Assassins – especially in the library of Alamut (“the secret archives”).

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:18:59
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766825
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:20:15
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766826
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Medicinal marijuana: First Australia-grown crop to be planted in months

The first Australian-grown crop of medicinal cannabis will be planted in Norfolk Island within months, with the crop destined for overseas markets.Australian company AusCann? announced on Wednesday that it had signed a landmark agreement with the Norfolk Island government to grow the crop at a ‘secure location’.The company said it…

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:21:59
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766828
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

First Australian medical cannabis clinical trial greenlighted

NSW will be the first Australian state or territory to conduct medicinal cannabis clinical trials for terminally ill adults with cancer after Premier Mike Baird gave the go-ahead to researchers at UNSW.

The NSW Government has committed $9 million to support medical cannabis clinical trials but there is no mention yet when trials treating children with severe epilepsy will begin, something Mr Baird pledged to explore last year.

The drug can be used to treat a wide range of conditions, including muscle spasms caused by epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, chemotherapy-induced nausea, Crohns disease and poor appetite caused by HIV.

University of New South Wales’ Chief Investigator Associate Professor Meera Agar – who has led several research studies into the management of terminally ill patients – will lead the research team and focus on how medicinal cannabis can improve poor appetite and appetite-related symptoms, such as nausea, in terminally ill adult cancer patients in their final stages of life.

more..

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:23:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 766829
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

First off, I wouldn’t pick the two you want to argue with.

and yes. the sole reason that it is an issue of great depths yet to be fathomed, the world of the word, could.. May make it seem bigger than the word, if.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:23:20
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766830
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

You need to read what I wrote. I have no problem with medicinal marijuana, but some of those advocating for it are doing so for the wrong reasons and likely to be disappointed when they get their wish.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:23:21
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766831
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

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Australia is behind the times on the medical use of cannabis

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:24:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766832
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

You need to read what I wrote. I have no problem with medicinal marijuana, but some of those advocating for it are doing so for the wrong reasons and likely to be disappointed when they get their wish.

I did read what you wrote

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:25:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766833
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

You need to read what I wrote. I have no problem with medicinal marijuana, but some of those advocating for it are doing so for the wrong reasons and likely to be disappointed when they get their wish.

I did read what you wrote

What did you think my position was?

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:25:45
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 766834
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

First Australian medical cannabis clinical trial greenlighted

NSW will be the first Australian state or territory to conduct medicinal cannabis clinical trials for terminally ill adults with cancer after Premier Mike Baird gave the go-ahead to researchers at UNSW.

The NSW Government has committed $9 million to support medical cannabis clinical trials but there is no mention yet when trials treating children with severe epilepsy will begin, something Mr Baird pledged to explore last year.

The drug can be used to treat a wide range of conditions, including muscle spasms caused by epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, chemotherapy-induced nausea, Crohns disease and poor appetite caused by HIV.

University of New South Wales’ Chief Investigator Associate Professor Meera Agar – who has led several research studies into the management of terminally ill patients – will lead the research team and focus on how medicinal cannabis can improve poor appetite and appetite-related symptoms, such as nausea, in terminally ill adult cancer patients in their final stages of life.

more..

>>
The drug can be used to treat a wide range of conditions, including muscle spasms caused by epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, chemotherapy-induced nausea, Crohns disease and poor appetite caused by HIV.

so can prayer apparently…

And there has been just as much study to ‘prove’ that works too…

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:26:20
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766835
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

Most of thm just want the right to get high and using medicinal as an end run around the regulations. Going to suck for them when the active agents are identified and put into capsules without the high. They would have lobbied for something they don’t actually want.

Better off being honest about it, make an argument that law enforcement is rediculously expensive for something anyone can grow, and legislate it instead as something akin to home brew. You can make your own but don’t sell it. Don’t drive under the influence, and don’t give it to kids.

you said most of them want to get high

well most of them dont actually

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:26:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 766836
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

You need to read what I wrote. I have no problem with medicinal marijuana, but some of those advocating for it are doing so for the wrong reasons and likely to be disappointed when they get their wish.

I did read what you wrote

What did you think my position was?

I can see from here that it was not what I thought.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:27:17
From: roughbarked
ID: 766837
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

First Australian medical cannabis clinical trial greenlighted

NSW will be the first Australian state or territory to conduct medicinal cannabis clinical trials for terminally ill adults with cancer after Premier Mike Baird gave the go-ahead to researchers at UNSW.

The NSW Government has committed $9 million to support medical cannabis clinical trials but there is no mention yet when trials treating children with severe epilepsy will begin, something Mr Baird pledged to explore last year.

The drug can be used to treat a wide range of conditions, including muscle spasms caused by epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, chemotherapy-induced nausea, Crohns disease and poor appetite caused by HIV.

University of New South Wales’ Chief Investigator Associate Professor Meera Agar – who has led several research studies into the management of terminally ill patients – will lead the research team and focus on how medicinal cannabis can improve poor appetite and appetite-related symptoms, such as nausea, in terminally ill adult cancer patients in their final stages of life.

more..

>>
The drug can be used to treat a wide range of conditions, including muscle spasms caused by epilepsy and multiple sclerosis, chemotherapy-induced nausea, Crohns disease and poor appetite caused by HIV.

so can prayer apparently…

And there has been just as much study to ‘prove’ that works too…


Treat, is not mentioning cure.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:27:32
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766838
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

You need to read what I wrote. I have no problem with medicinal marijuana, but some of those advocating for it are doing so for the wrong reasons and likely to be disappointed when they get their wish.

I did read what you wrote

What did you think my position was?

“most of them want to get high”

is not what the medical profession are on about with medical cannabis

now Fuck off

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:29:06
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766840
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO and stumpy_seahorse are behind the times as usual

Senators give medical marijuana the green light

Senators from across the political divide will endorse a bill to legalise medical marijuana despite warnings it could create a regulatory nightmare.

more..

First off, I wouldn’t pick the two you want to argue with.

and yes. the sole reason that it is an issue of great depths yet to be fathomed, the world of the word, could.. May make it seem bigger than the word, if.

I have no problem arguing with anyone

but thanks anyway

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:29:33
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766841
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

Most of thm just want the right to get high and using medicinal as an end run around the regulations. Going to suck for them when the active agents are identified and put into capsules without the high. They would have lobbied for something they don’t actually want.

Better off being honest about it, make an argument that law enforcement is rediculously expensive for something anyone can grow, and legislate it instead as something akin to home brew. You can make your own but don’t sell it. Don’t drive under the influence, and don’t give it to kids.

you said most of them want to get high

well most of them dont actually

Of course they do. Unless users of pot have radically changed in the last five years.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:29:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 766842
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

The thing I find with pro medicinal marijuana people is that they are so similar to the religious nuts ofyears gone by..

Pray and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Take cannibis and you’ll be cured of all your ailments…

Just decide on what it cures and do some tests to prove it…

Most of thm just want the right to get high and using medicinal as an end run around the regulations. Going to suck for them when the active agents are identified and put into capsules without the high. They would have lobbied for something they don’t actually want.

Better off being honest about it, make an argument that law enforcement is rediculously expensive for something anyone can grow, and legislate it instead as something akin to home brew. You can make your own but don’t sell it. Don’t drive under the influence, and don’t give it to kids.

you said most of them want to get high

well most of them dont actually

Can I rephrase what you have said?

High.. man that’s like 1967.

OK if you got high in 67- 77, you were up there.

In 2017? man, you will only still be using the stuff because it gets you by and hasn’t given you cancer yet.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:31:30
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766843
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:32:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 766844
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:

but thanks anyway

:)

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:32:30
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766845
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

I did read what you wrote

What did you think my position was?

“most of them want to get high”

is not what the medical profession are on about with medical cannabis

now Fuck off

No I agree, the medical profession will be searching for the active ingredients to remedy the particular malady. They will also attempt to strip out the high as an unwanted side affect. People advocating for medicinal use of cannabis will be dissapointed when medical science delivers to them what they profess to want.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:32:30
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766846
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Most of thm just want the right to get high and using medicinal as an end run around the regulations. Going to suck for them when the active agents are identified and put into capsules without the high. They would have lobbied for something they don’t actually want.

Better off being honest about it, make an argument that law enforcement is rediculously expensive for something anyone can grow, and legislate it instead as something akin to home brew. You can make your own but don’t sell it. Don’t drive under the influence, and don’t give it to kids.

you said most of them want to get high

well most of them dont actually

Of course they do. Unless users of pot have radically changed in the last five years.

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:32:55
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 766847
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:35:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 766848
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

What did you think my position was?

“most of them want to get high”

is not what the medical profession are on about with medical cannabis

now Fuck off

No I agree, the medical profession will be searching for the active ingredients to remedy the particular malady. They will also attempt to strip out the high as an unwanted side affect. People advocating for medicinal use of cannabis will be dissapointed when medical science delivers to them what they profess to want.

True. Medical means.. the active ingredients required for the purpose.

In some cases of which psychiatric are many.. the otherwise unwanted ingredients may well be put to good use.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:36:18
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766850
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

you said most of them want to get high

well most of them dont actually

Of course they do. Unless users of pot have radically changed in the last five years.

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:36:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 766851
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

Mainly epilepsy and some cancer research.. TM info.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:37:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766852
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

What did you think my position was?

“most of them want to get high”

is not what the medical profession are on about with medical cannabis

now Fuck off

No I agree, the medical profession will be searching for the active ingredients to remedy the particular malady. They will also attempt to strip out the high as an unwanted side affect. People advocating for medicinal use of cannabis will be dissapointed when medical science delivers to them what they profess to want.

Yes the medical professional will be looking for all of the cannabis plants beneficial cannabinoids

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:38:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 766853
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Of course they do. Unless users of pot have radically changed in the last five years.

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:39:43
From: AwesomeO
ID: 766854
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:40:02
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 766855
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

Mainly epilepsy and some cancer research.. TM info.

at least that’s a bit more specific that ‘everything from hammer toe to HIV…’

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:40:57
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766856
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

mostly these ones but there are some others

reducing epileptic fits
reducing the symptoms of multiple sclerosis
pain caused by cancer
reducing chemotherapy-induced nausea

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:41:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 766857
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

I understand completely that you grokked my drift. ;)

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:42:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 766858
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

mostly these ones but there are some others

reducing epileptic fits
reducing the symptoms of multiple sclerosis
pain caused by cancer
reducing chemotherapy-induced nausea

Pain relief is a biggie. Ask anyone with spinal damage.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:45:37
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766860
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

Of course they do. Unless users of pot have radically changed in the last five years.

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

Yes I listen to music on pot, makes it sound better

but mostly I use it to control anger, prevent suicidal thoughts, stress relief, and as a sedative that works all the time

not like Valium where the sedative effect wears off

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:45:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 766861
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

I understand completely that you grokked my drift. ;)

What I would like to talk to you about is your lung issues and your use of the weed. You say you mainly consume it without smoking. but what is your actual history of smoking the stuff?

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:46:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766863
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

Are you reading those articles I posted

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:46:59
From: btm
ID: 766866
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

AwesomeO said:

… They will also attempt to strip out the high as an unwanted side affect. …

I don’t think this is necessarily true; morphine, as an example, is used extensively for pain relief, but also has a narcotic effect (ie gets the patient high.) When I was hospitalised with pancreatitis they gave me morphine, which didn’t ease the pain but got me high so I didn’t care about the pain.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:47:22
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766867
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis: time for clear thinking

The debate about the medical use of cannabis in Australia has become confused with the proposal for a formal clinical trial instead of proceeding to legislation in New South Wales, the Australian Capital Territory and Victoria. Debates about prohibition of cannabis have a long history,1 as has the proposal for medical cannabis in Australia.2 Politicians are nervous about being “soft on drugs”, especially before an election. The clinical trial proposed, if successful, presumes that cannabis would then be approved and regulated as a pharmaceutical substance.

more…

so what ailment is the clinical trial being tested on?

mostly these ones but there are some others

reducing epileptic fits
reducing the symptoms of multiple sclerosis
pain caused by cancer
reducing chemotherapy-induced nausea

reducing pain caused by cancer

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:47:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 766869
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

C’mon mate.. You have made admissions as well.

Though this all has nothing at all to do with medical issues eh.

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

Are you reading those articles I posted

Not a paperback writer. More of a day tripper.

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:48:16
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766870
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

apologies for losing my cool

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:48:49
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 766871
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


AwesomeO said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

again most people who are taking medical cannabis do not want to get high

Go and talk to some that are in hospital are are on clinical trails

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

Yes I listen to music on pot, makes it sound better

but mostly I use it to control anger, prevent suicidal thoughts, stress relief, and as a sedative that works all the time

not like Valium where the sedative effect wears off

Your conviction to the cause is commendable.. especially since youwouldn’t fall into the group that the clinical trial may decide it is beneficial for..

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:49:54
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766873
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

I don’t mind admitting I like to get stoned. I would like it to be decriminalised. But I ain’t dopy enough to think a smoke screen of for medicinal use is fooling anyone.

Are you reading those articles I posted

Not a paperback writer. More of a day tripper.

the Beatles are awesome and they smoked pot

not for medical purposes

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:53:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 766878
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


apologies for losing my cool

how so?

this part, I must have missed.
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Date: 26/08/2015 20:54:14
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766880
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

stumpy_seahorse said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

AwesomeO said:

You yourself have said you like to get high on it. You mentioned it in the context of listening to music, so you like to get high and advocate for medical dope. I cut you slack, I understand you have self admitted mental issues.

Yes I listen to music on pot, makes it sound better

but mostly I use it to control anger, prevent suicidal thoughts, stress relief, and as a sedative that works all the time

not like Valium where the sedative effect wears off

Your conviction to the cause is commendable.. especially since youwouldn’t fall into the group that the clinical trial may decide it is beneficial for..

true, cannabis for Autism and Aspergers is still being trailed in USA

I use cannabis for my Aspergers

They are treating returned soldiers who have post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), and they are seeing good results

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:54:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766883
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

apologies for losing my cool

how so?

this part, I must have missed.

I briefly got emotional for three seconds

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Date: 26/08/2015 20:59:16
From: Boris
ID: 766889
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

… which didn’t ease the pain but got me high so I didn’t care about the pain.

same as marijuana.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:01:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 766895
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

Boris said:


… which didn’t ease the pain but got me high so I didn’t care about the pain.

same as marijuana.

same as paracetamol.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:06:19
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766908
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


Boris said:

… which didn’t ease the pain but got me high so I didn’t care about the pain.

same as marijuana.

same as paracetamol.

Medical cannabis is coming and will be another regulated pharmaceutical drug

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:08:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 766914
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


roughbarked said:

Boris said:

… which didn’t ease the pain but got me high so I didn’t care about the pain.

same as marijuana.

same as paracetamol.

Medical cannabis is coming and will be another regulated pharmaceutical drug

not arguimongering. Merely participating.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:14:45
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766931
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

same as paracetamol.

Medical cannabis is coming and will be another regulated pharmaceutical drug

not arguimongering. Merely participating.

I took some paracetamol last night for a headache, the headache then went away.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:18:49
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 766936
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

the Australian Pharmaceutical Industry is about 50+ years behind on cannabis research, they have some catching up to do.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:38:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 766975
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

Medical cannabis is coming and will be another regulated pharmaceutical drug

not arguimongering. Merely participating.

I took some paracetamol last night for a headache, the headache then went away.

Homegrown, growing your own, don’t need ya.

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Date: 26/08/2015 21:41:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 766981
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

CrazyNeutrino said:

the Australian Pharmaceutical Industry is about 50+ years behind on cannabis research, they have some catching up to do.

Your estimate is way out.

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Date: 28/08/2015 10:26:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 767754
Subject: re: Italy’s army bringing down the cost of getting high on medical marijuana

roughbarked said:


mollwollfumble said:

Watching “stacey dooley investigates” about marijuana last night.

Latest high risk is mixing 10% heroin into illegal marijuana to make it highly addictive.

Nothing new. Opiated hashish is where the word assassain originates.


I’ve been to their castle in syria

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