Date: 15/09/2015 15:20:48
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776067
Subject: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

California wildfire: Devastating blaze kills one, destroys 400 homes, fire officials say

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-15/california-wildfire-kills-one-destroys-400-homes/6776658

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Date: 15/09/2015 16:06:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 776098
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

You have to be kidding. Drones culdn’t stand up to wildfires. They’d drop out of the sky like flies.

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:23:12
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776213
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

roughbarked said:


You have to be kidding. Drones culdn’t stand up to wildfires. They’d drop out of the sky like flies.

thats why you drop the water as a wibbly wobbly container straight onto the fire , with precision

1000 drones drop 1 tonne of water every 3.6 seconds on the same patch if need be

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:24:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 776216
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

wookiemeister said:

1000 drones drop 1 tonne of water every 3.6 seconds on the same patch if need be

To carry a tonne of water the drone would have to be as large as a helicopter.

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:28:45
From: party_pants
ID: 776218
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

Witty Rejoinder said:


wookiemeister said:

1000 drones drop 1 tonne of water every 3.6 seconds on the same patch if need be

To carry a tonne of water the drone would have to be as large as a helicopter.

We’ve been through this bullshit a thousand times with Wookie.

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:29:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776219
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

Witty Rejoinder said:


wookiemeister said:

1000 drones drop 1 tonne of water every 3.6 seconds on the same patch if need be

To carry a tonne of water the drone would have to be as large as a helicopter.


no

a helicopter has to carry a man and all the equipment to allow the man to fly the helicopter, then you’ve got spare capacity to carry a second person

who says you need a helicopter, a fixed wing would be good too, maybe a flying wing approach

no pilots needed

a virtually automated process where the firechiefs or people on the ground call in the drones as they need for an airstrike

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:32:23
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776222
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

it would be cheaper to build the drones than sustain the losses

a drone fleet could be compensated by an insurance company by putting out the fires, the insurance companies make the decision as to whether properties will burn – when they refuse to insure you let the home owners know and they switch their insurance to someone that will

the insurance company that plays the game gets properties insurance and the home owner has better odds of staying alive and saving their houses

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Date: 20/09/2015 22:33:56
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 778525
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

party_pants said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

wookiemeister said:

1000 drones drop 1 tonne of water every 3.6 seconds on the same patch if need be

To carry a tonne of water the drone would have to be as large as a helicopter.

We’ve been through this bullshit a thousand times with Wookie.

No, Wookie is right. A drone could easily carry a kg of water. Also, 1000 1 kg loads of water would be far more effective at putting out spot fires from flying embers than one 1000 kg load – ideally both would be used together. PS, I’d also add fire retardant chemicals to the water. So 1000 drones could easily carry 1 tonne of water. My main concern is that drone batteries go flat really fast. A 25 minute flight time while carrying a 1 kg load would be about the limit, so you’d need to recharge a battery every 1.5 seconds.

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Date: 20/09/2015 23:01:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 778542
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

you’d most likely use petrol / diesel for a fixed wing drone

you need to set up an airfield near water

you’d have multiple refuelling points for redundancy

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Date: 20/09/2015 23:23:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 778555
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

I’m not sure if the smaller drones could handle turbulent air in bushfires

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Date: 21/09/2015 11:21:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 778668
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

California wildfires destroy 1,000 homes with tally rising daily

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/california-wildfires-destroy-homes

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Date: 21/09/2015 11:21:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 778669
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

ok, i’ll be back with this or a similar thread with the next bushfire, that’s just how I roll

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Date: 21/09/2015 12:06:19
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 778674
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

wookiemeister said:


California wildfires destroy 1,000 homes with tally rising daily

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/california-wildfires-destroy-homes

If this El Nino acts how the dart throwers predict California’s drought should get washed away this year.

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Date: 21/09/2015 12:08:24
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 778675
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

Peak Warming Man said:


wookiemeister said:

California wildfires destroy 1,000 homes with tally rising daily

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/20/california-wildfires-destroy-homes

If this El Nino acts how the dart throwers predict California’s drought should get washed away this year.

it better…

I put in a rather large order for fire-fighting pumps last week…

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Date: 21/09/2015 20:06:18
From: wookiemeister
ID: 778816
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

only fire fighting flying drones will stop bush fires

they can move quickly

they can travel into in accessible areas

they can deliver large amounts of water cheaply

they don’t need lots of humans to do the job

they can drop water onto fires accurately

they are much cheaper to operate , quicker to respond to serious situations

they can be transported quickly to anywhere in the world and start operating quickly

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Date: 21/09/2015 20:32:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 778822
Subject: re: If only they had built my fire fighting drones idea

wookiemeister said:


only fire fighting flying drones will stop bush fires

they can move quickly

they can travel into in accessible areas

they can deliver large amounts of water cheaply

they don’t need lots of humans to do the job

they can drop water onto fires accurately

they are much cheaper to operate , quicker to respond to serious situations

they can be transported quickly to anywhere in the world and start operating quickly

But they frizzle like a cigarette paper in a quick puff of wind at the campfire.

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