Date: 15/09/2015 21:15:05
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 776210
Subject: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

Hydrogen could be the ideal fuel: Whether used to make electricity in a fuel cell or burned to make heat, the only byproduct is water; there is no climate-altering carbon dioxide. Like gasoline, hydrogen could also be used to store energy. Scientists now report a hydrogen-making catalyst containing phosphorus and sulfur — both common elements — and cobalt, a metal that is 1,000 times cheaper than platinum.

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:23:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776214
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

I don’t believe a word of it

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Date: 15/09/2015 21:23:48
From: furious
ID: 776215
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

Isn’t water vapour also a greenhouse gas?

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Date: 15/09/2015 22:54:24
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 776285
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

furious said:

  • the only byproduct is water; there is no climate-altering carbon dioxide.

Isn’t water vapour also a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but ask Michael V about a World without water and he’ll explain why additional water vapour is not a problem.

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Date: 15/09/2015 22:56:34
From: dv
ID: 776288
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

The Rev Dodgson said:


furious said:
  • the only byproduct is water; there is no climate-altering carbon dioxide.

Isn’t water vapour also a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but ask Michael V about a World without water and he’ll explain why additional water vapour is not a problem.

We’ll send it to the moon

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Date: 15/09/2015 23:01:57
From: Michael V
ID: 776296
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

The Rev Dodgson said:


furious said:
  • the only by-product is water; there is no climate-altering carbon dioxide.

Isn’t water vapour also a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but ask Michael V about a World without water and he’ll explain why additional water vapour is not a problem.

:)

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Date: 15/09/2015 23:02:11
From: Michael V
ID: 776297
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

dv said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

furious said:
  • the only byproduct is water; there is no climate-altering carbon dioxide.

Isn’t water vapour also a greenhouse gas?

Yes, but ask Michael V about a World without water and he’ll explain why additional water vapour is not a problem.

We’ll send it to the moon

:)

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Date: 15/09/2015 23:03:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776299
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

if we wanted to get rid of all that extra water vapour we could tax it

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Date: 16/09/2015 06:34:03
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 776323
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

wookiemeister said:


if we wanted to get rid of all that extra water vapour we could tax it

Which of course, if human sourced water vapour emissions were a significant contributor to climate change, would be a perfectly sensible thing to do.

In fact to tax CO2 and not H20 in that situation would be just stupid.

But since H-S H20 is in fact not a significant contributor to climate change, we don’t need to tax it.

So we’ll have to look elsewhere for the additional government income that will make us all better off.

I suggest raising income tax.

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Date: 16/09/2015 08:37:19
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776331
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

we could raise taxes and knock the plebs out once and for all

the problem is that there are far too many people using too much energy

we could start a famine like chairman Mao and reduce pleb numbers that way

the best way to tackle climate change is to introduce more 457 visas here , the plebs dying under a tide of taxes and famine could be replaced by 457 visas and other more acceptable people

by rationalising the population into two classes the dwindling pedant class would be slum dwellers using little to no carbon based fuels and the elite that drive around in teslas and Prius

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Date: 16/09/2015 08:41:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776332
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

as far as I’m concerned all these measures to help the environment are badly disguised schemes of social engineering.

we already have more than enough being collected in taxes

the NBN money if it had been spent on renewable would mean that a huge fraction of our energy was clean

just imagine if the 900 dollars being handed out by Rudd was spent building renewable energy instead of on TVs

once you realise we could have built a entirely renewable energy system over and over again with the already existing taxes you realise it is all a lie

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Date: 16/09/2015 08:45:22
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 776333
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

wookiemeister said:


we could raise taxes and knock the plebs out once and for all

the problem is that there are far too many people using too much energy

we could start a famine like chairman Mao and reduce pleb numbers that way

the best way to tackle climate change is to introduce more 457 visas here , the plebs dying under a tide of taxes and famine could be replaced by 457 visas and other more acceptable people

by rationalising the population into two classes the dwindling pedant class would be slum dwellers using little to no carbon based fuels and the elite that drive around in teslas and Prius

Wookie – you really should try applying some sceptical thought to the abbott/hockey style meme that all taxes are bad.

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Date: 16/09/2015 09:01:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 776336
Subject: re: Discovery of a highly efficient catalyst eases way to hydrogen economy

The Rev Dodgson said:


wookiemeister said:

we could raise taxes and knock the plebs out once and for all

the problem is that there are far too many people using too much energy

we could start a famine like chairman Mao and reduce pleb numbers that way

the best way to tackle climate change is to introduce more 457 visas here , the plebs dying under a tide of taxes and famine could be replaced by 457 visas and other more acceptable people

by rationalising the population into two classes the dwindling pedant class would be slum dwellers using little to no carbon based fuels and the elite that drive around in teslas and Prius

Wookie – you really should try applying some sceptical thought to the abbott/hockey style meme that all taxes are bad.


tax per se isn’t bad, it’s how it’s used how much is paid

if we had any form of decent government all things would flow

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