Date: 22/09/2015 23:46:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 779284
Subject: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

The apocalypse is still on, apparently — at least in a galaxy about 3.5 billion light-years from here.

Last winter, a team of Caltech astronomers reported that two supermassive black holes appeared to be spiraling together toward a cataclysmic collision that could bring down the curtains in that galaxy.

The evidence was a rhythmic flickering from the galaxy’s nucleus, a quasar known as PG 1302-102, which Matthew Graham and his colleagues interpreted as the fatal mating dance of a pair of black holes with a total mass of more than a billion suns. Their merger, the astronomers calculated, could release as much energy as 100 million supernova explosions, mostly in the form of violent ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves that would blow the stars out of that hapless galaxy like leaves off a roof.

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:17:49
From: Bubblecar
ID: 779290
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

>could spiral together into the final bang in as little as 100,000 years, Dr. Haiman said

So any advanced intelligent life in that galaxy are going to need ambitious escape plans.

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:26:10
From: tauto
ID: 779291
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

Bubblecar said:


>could spiral together into the final bang in as little as 100,000 years, Dr. Haiman said

So any advanced intelligent life in that galaxy are going to need ambitious escape plans.

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Well, those at the epicentre.

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:37:22
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779292
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

we won’t be around to see it

Andromeda slams into the milky way before then as far as I remember

this galaxy will be screwed

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:38:45
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779293
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

Bubblecar said:


>could spiral together into the final bang in as little as 100,000 years, Dr. Haiman said

So any advanced intelligent life in that galaxy are going to need ambitious escape plans.


any intelligent life will be more like gardners

the pinnacle of intelligent life will be machines not biological entities

it might be the machines that save the universe

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:42:27
From: tauto
ID: 779294
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

wookiemeister said:


Bubblecar said:

>could spiral together into the final bang in as little as 100,000 years, Dr. Haiman said

So any advanced intelligent life in that galaxy are going to need ambitious escape plans.


any intelligent life will be more like gardners

the pinnacle of intelligent life will be machines not biological entities

it might be the machines that save the universe

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Daneel would agree.

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:46:45
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 779295
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

wookiemeister said:


we won’t be around to see it

Andromeda slams into the milky way before then as far as I remember

this galaxy will be screwed

The Andromeda–Milky Way collision is a galactic collision predicted to occur in about 4 billion years between the two largest galaxies in the Local Group—the Milky Way (which contains the Solar System and Earth) and the Andromeda Galaxy although the stars involved are sufficiently far apart that it is improbable that any of them will individually collide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda%E2%80%93Milky_Way_collision

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:48:55
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779296
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

by rights a robot wouldn’t need to conform to any particular laws

humans kill at will for sometimes no meaningful reason – why should a robot need to have a set of laws protecting humans?

if the robot has superior logic then its eventually going to be curtains for us one way or the other

as the machines become more and more advanced do you really think a set of programmed laws will stop a machine from circumventing them and reprogramming its own code?

its fantasy

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:49:16
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779297
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

CrazyNeutrino said:


wookiemeister said:

we won’t be around to see it

Andromeda slams into the milky way before then as far as I remember

this galaxy will be screwed

The Andromeda–Milky Way collision is a galactic collision predicted to occur in about 4 billion years between the two largest galaxies in the Local Group—the Milky Way (which contains the Solar System and Earth) and the Andromeda Galaxy although the stars involved are sufficiently far apart that it is improbable that any of them will individually collide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda%E2%80%93Milky_Way_collision


ahhh I was out by 0.5 billion years

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:50:05
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779298
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

unless its going to take much longer for those black holes to spiral into each other

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:51:59
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779299
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

Peta Credlin says she has no intention of entering politics, redoubles efforts to rebuild the death star and urges women to take more leadership roles in a lady Macbeth kind of way

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-22/peta-credlin-says-she-has-no-intention-of-entering-politics/6796660

its ok to be a monster if you just a woman trying to make her way in the way in the world making everyone’s life miserable

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:52:07
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 779300
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

wookiemeister said:


unless its going to take much longer for those black holes to spiral into each other

100,000 years

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:52:10
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779301
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

wookiemeister said:


Peta Credlin says she has no intention of entering politics, redoubles efforts to rebuild the death star and urges women to take more leadership roles in a lady Macbeth kind of way

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-22/peta-credlin-says-she-has-no-intention-of-entering-politics/6796660

its ok to be a monster if you just a woman trying to make her way in the way in the world making everyone’s life miserable


wrong thread

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:53:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 779304
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

CrazyNeutrino said:


wookiemeister said:

unless its going to take much longer for those black holes to spiral into each other

100,000 years


well that’s a guess

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Date: 23/09/2015 00:56:02
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 779307
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

wookiemeister said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

wookiemeister said:

unless its going to take much longer for those black holes to spiral into each other

100,000 years


well that’s a guess

give or take

Feel sorry for any living species in the vicinity

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Date: 23/09/2015 07:57:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 779339
Subject: re: More Evidence for Coming Black Hole Collision

> Their merger, the astronomers calculated, could release as much energy as 100 million supernova explosions, mostly in the form of violent ripples in space-time known as gravitational waves that would blow the stars out of that hapless galaxy like leaves off a roof.

They’re right. We’re in the wrong direction to observe any blazar-like activity (radio, X-ray, gamma ray) from the resulting merger, but we’re in the right direction to observe gravitational waves.

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