Date: 15/10/2015 07:34:35
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 788283
Subject: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

In the Northern hemisphere’s sky, hovering above the Milky Way, there are two constellations—Cygnus the swan, her wings outstretched in full flight, and Lyra, the harp that accompanied poetry in ancient Greece, from which we take our word “lyric.”

Between these constellations sits an unusual star, invisible to the naked eye, but visible to the Kepler Space Telescope, which stared at it for more than four years, beginning in 2009.

“We’d never seen anything like this star,” says Tabetha Boyajian, a postdoc at Yale. “It was really weird. We thought it might be bad data or movement on the spacecraft, but everything checked out.”

Kepler was looking for tiny dips in the light emitted by this star. Indeed, it was looking for these dips in more than 150,000 stars, simultaneously, because these dips are often shadows cast by transiting planets. Especially when they repeat, periodically, as you’d expect if they were caused by orbiting objects.

The Kepler Space Telescope collected a great deal of light from all of those stars it watched. So much light that Kepler’s science team couldn’t process it all with algorithms. They needed the human eye, and human cognition, which remains unsurpassed in certain sorts of pattern recognition. Kepler’s astronomers decided to found Planet Hunters, a program that asked “citizen scientists” to examine light patterns emitted by the stars, from the comfort of their own homes.

In 2011, several citizen scientists flagged one particular star as “interesting” and “bizarre.” The star was emitting a light pattern that looked stranger than any of the others Kepler was watching.

The light pattern suggests there is a big mess of matter circling the star, in tight formation. That would be expected if the star were young. When our solar system first formed, four and a half billion years ago, a messy disk of dust and debris surrounded the sun, before gravity organized it into planets, and rings of rock and ice.

But this unusual star isn’t young. If it were young, it would be surrounded by dust that would give off extra infrared light. There doesn’t seem to be an excess of infrared light around this star.

It appears to be mature.

And yet, there is this mess of objects circling it. A mess big enough to block a substantial number of photons that would have otherwise beamed into the tube of the Kepler Space Telescope. If blind nature deposited this mess around the star, it must have done so recently. Otherwise, it would be gone by now. Gravity would have consolidated it, or it would have been sucked into the star and swallowed, after a brief fiery splash.

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Date: 15/10/2015 08:19:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 788289
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

(haven’t read the link)

What if the debris is from a passing body that was captured by the star?

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Date: 15/10/2015 12:23:28
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 788333
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

Give me a name. Ahh, here it is, KIC 8462852. I user to keep all the Kepler Data at home, but deleted it eventually as it filled up three computers. Is this one that I looked at in detail? Some of the stars I did look at were plenty weird, such as quiet times followed by massive eruptions of sunspots, such as orbiting rings of debris, such as inverse transits that looked like planet transits but brightened instead of dulled as the object passed in front of the star, such as one star which had a spike in brightness before each dip in brightness, such as a binary in an extremely eccentric orbit – with a planet.

Having a look through my data, but haven’t found it yet. Files are too big to look through easily.

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Date: 15/10/2015 12:32:42
From: Cymek
ID: 788335
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

mollwollfumble said:


Give me a name. Ahh, here it is, KIC 8462852. I user to keep all the Kepler Data at home, but deleted it eventually as it filled up three computers. Is this one that I looked at in detail? Some of the stars I did look at were plenty weird, such as quiet times followed by massive eruptions of sunspots, such as orbiting rings of debris, such as inverse transits that looked like planet transits but brightened instead of dulled as the object passed in front of the star, such as one star which had a spike in brightness before each dip in brightness, such as a binary in an extremely eccentric orbit – with a planet.

Having a look through my data, but haven’t found it yet. Files are too big to look through easily.

It would be way nerd cool if it was an artificial structure.

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Date: 15/10/2015 12:33:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 788336
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

Reading the paper now. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622.pdf The light curve looks a lot like the light curves of two stars that I looked at, KID 5730389 and KID 7456460. KIC and KID are two different catalogues of the same objects, with different numbers, so one of them may be KIC 8462852.

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Date: 15/10/2015 12:48:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 788337
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

mollwollfumble said:


Reading the paper now. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622.pdf The light curve looks a lot like the light curves of two stars that I looked at, KID 5730389 and KID 7456460. KIC and KID are two different catalogues of the same objects, with different numbers, so one of them may be KIC 8462852.

No, my apologies, KIC and KID catalog numbers are the same according to Simbad. So it looks like I’ve found two other Kepler stars orbited by alien civilizations. Not so unique after all.

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Date: 15/10/2015 12:56:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 788338
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

mollwollfumble said:


mollwollfumble said:

Reading the paper now. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622.pdf The light curve looks a lot like the light curves of two stars that I looked at, KID 5730389 and KID 7456460. KIC and KID are two different catalogues of the same objects, with different numbers, so one of them may be KIC 8462852.

No, my apologies, KIC and KID catalog numbers are the same according to Simbad. So it looks like I’ve found two other Kepler stars orbited by alien civilizations. Not so unique after all.

Another star with a really weird and similar light curve is KID 9288356.

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Date: 15/10/2015 13:02:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 788341
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

The weirdest of all, far weirder than the KIC 8462852, is KID 9790355. This is the one in which planet-like drops in star brightness are preceded by increases in star brightness.

So that gives total of five stars like KIC 8462852, not counting the stars with “inverse transits” that brighten instead of dull when an object passes in front of them.

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Date: 21/10/2015 22:17:48
From: Kingy
ID: 791424
Subject: re: The Most Mysterious Star in Our Galaxy

My two bits worth:

1) A large lump of stuff(or two) passing between us and the star that is no way connected to aforementioned star? 2) A planet orbiting that star has just had an unfortunate bingle with another large planet (possibly) orbiting same star? 3) Not aliens, but the ANCIENTS old spare pyramids that didn’t get landing clearance from the Egyptian Space Traffic Control.
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