Astronomers may have found giant alien ‘megastructures’ orbiting star near the Milky Way

Is this different to

http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/6614/

Finding giant mega solar collectors orbiting around another planet would be cool eh?

this is what is was suggesting here ages ago

you set something up orbiting a star that doesn’t look like a planet but is visible

same story.

CrazyNeutrino said:

Astronomers may have found giant alien ‘megastructures’ orbiting star near the Milky Way

Is this different to

http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/6614/

No. This is exactly the same as
http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/6614/
It’s the same name of the star even, KIC 8462852, as I posted on the linked thread.

I pointed out in the linked thread that there are at least four other stars that I found in the Kepler field that have similarly weird light curves. I did wonder about “alien megastructures” when I discovered them. On the other hand, all five could be a weird type of sunspot.

i’m not sure an advanced civilisation would rely on a star for energy, theres a heap of radioactive elements out there they could use, why bother huddling around a star?

at most if it were alien it could be an industrial facility for processing raw elements

Has anyone pointed out that to suggest these signals are evidence of advanced technological living entities out there is unscientific to the point of ludicrousness?

nobodies saying it’s aliens. but it is aliens.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Has anyone pointed out that to suggest these signals are evidence of advanced technological living entities out there is unscientific to the point of ludicrousness?

I don’t think we should rule anything in or out.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Rev,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622.pdf

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Has anyone pointed out that to suggest these signals are evidence of advanced technological living entities out there is unscientific to the point of ludicrousness?

I don’t think we should rule anything in or out.

Quite, that’s why we shouldn’t leap to the conclusions that it’s aliens. Of course it could be, but it could be billions of other things.

Peak Warming Man said:

There are more things in heaven and earth, Rev,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Quite, that’s why we shouldn’t leap to the conclusions that it’s aliens. Of course it could be, but it could be billions of other things.

“ Shakespeare does not expand on the specific nature of Horatio’s philosophy, and in the First Folio (1623), the text actually reads “our philosophy.” Some editors, such as Dyce, White and Rowe, choose to use “our” instead of “your” (as found in Q2), believing Hamlet is speaking in general terms about the limitations of human thought. “

I’m with the some editors.

ChrispenEvan said:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.03622.pdf

OK, so not only is it aliens, they blew their bloody planet up.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Has anyone pointed out that to suggest these signals are evidence of advanced technological living entities out there is unscientific to the point of ludicrousness?

I don’t think we should rule anything in or out.

Quite, that’s why we shouldn’t leap to the conclusions that it’s aliens. Of course it could be, but it could be billions of other things.

Peak Warming Man said:

There are more things in heaven and earth, Rev,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Quite, that’s why we shouldn’t leap to the conclusions that it’s aliens. Of course it could be, but it could be billions of other things.

Yes, why do people leap to mundane ideas like aliens all the time?

dv said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Quite, that’s why we shouldn’t leap to the conclusions that it’s aliens. Of course it could be, but it could be billions of other things.

Yes, why do people leap to mundane ideas like aliens all the time?

I find the opposite more remarkable. With all the millions of scientific articles detailing actual results from astronomical observations, the proportion of these scientific articles that give aliens as a possible explanation is somewhere below 0.01%. Aliens is always a possible explanation, yet scientific articles shy away from the possibility as if to even suggest such a thing is taboo.

eg. Supernovae shouldn’t explode. All the best mathematical models tell us that supernovae can’t exist. Yet they do.
Pulsars can’t exist. All the best mathematical models tell us that any star massive enough to collapse into a pulsar should continue collapsing to make a black hole. Yet they do.
Rocky planets can’t exist. As planetesimals accrete to large and larger sizes they reach a size beyond which any collisions make them smaller rather than larger. Yet they do exist.
SETI found many hundreds of Wow!-like events, some of them with a strength way beyond what is statistically possible from natural sources. Yet they exist.
The narrow-band peak in gamma radiation detected by the Fermi Telescope in the centre of the Milky Way can’t be explained. Yet it exists.

I would expect that at least somebody in the world would suggest aliens as the origins of some of those and many other discrepancies between observation and theory. But not a whisper in the scientific press.

• I would expect that at least somebody in the world would suggest aliens as the origins of some of those and many other discrepancies between observation and theory. But not a whisper in the scientific press.

I would expect that at least somebody in the world would suggest a deity as the origins of some of those and many other discrepancies between observation and theory. But not a whisper in the scientific press.

Could tethered solar sails be used to create a Dyson sphere type structure

Cymek said:

Could tethered solar sails be used to create a Dyson sphere type structure

unlikely

I don’t see why aliens would want to bother doing it

first you need to get there

then you need to start building some huge structure when all you need to do is collect radioactive isotopes found almost everywhere

mollwollfumble said:

I find the opposite more remarkable. With all the millions of scientific articles detailing actual results from astronomical observations, the proportion of these scientific articles that give aliens as a possible explanation is somewhere below 0.01%. Aliens is always a possible explanation, yet scientific articles shy away from the possibility as if to even suggest such a thing is taboo.

eg. Supernovae shouldn’t explode. All the best mathematical models tell us that supernovae can’t exist. Yet they do.
Pulsars can’t exist. All the best mathematical models tell us that any star massive enough to collapse into a pulsar should continue collapsing to make a black hole. Yet they do.
Rocky planets can’t exist. As planetesimals accrete to large and larger sizes they reach a size beyond which any collisions make them smaller rather than larger. Yet they do exist.
SETI found many hundreds of Wow!-like events, some of them with a strength way beyond what is statistically possible from natural sources. Yet they exist.
The narrow-band peak in gamma radiation detected by the Fermi Telescope in the centre of the Milky Way can’t be explained. Yet it exists.

I would expect that at least somebody in the world would suggest aliens as the origins of some of those and many other discrepancies between observation and theory. But not a whisper in the scientific press.

I suspect most astrophysicists would take issue with those assertions, and few if any would regard “aliens” as a reasonable explanation.

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I was just about to post one of the many similar “memes”…

I wonder why it is that aliens and gods only visited Earth thousands of years ago and nothing in recent times

Cymek said:

I wonder why it is that aliens and gods only visited Earth thousands of years ago and nothing in recent times

economic recession

Cymek said:

I wonder why it is that aliens and gods only visited Earth thousands of years ago and nothing in recent times

They are still heading home after the first reccie.

Cymek said:

I wonder why it is that aliens and gods only visited Earth thousands of years ago and nothing in recent times

But they do. Didn’t you watch that excellent documentary series, The X Files?

Westpac rate hike to hit ‘fragile housing sentiment’, Morgan Stanley says
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-15/westpac-rate-hike-to-hit-fragile-housing-sentiment/6857426?section=business

they are ridding their books of unsafe mortgage debts before the crash comes – the people hanging on by a thread will go to another bank

http://gizmodo.com/the-many-many-times-astronomers-mistook-mundane-phenom-1736795901

The Many, Many Times Astronomers Mistook Mundane Phenomena for Aliens

Many, Many Times = 5?

Well, 4, if you don’t count the one that was “never fully explained”…

furious said:

Many, Many Times = 5?

Well, 4, if you don’t count the one that was “never fully explained”…

Perhaps they mean that the small number of examples involved quite a lot of scientists being mistaken.

Bubblecar said:

furious said:

Many, Many Times = 5?

Well, 4, if you don’t count the one that was “never fully explained”…

Perhaps they mean that the small number of examples involved quite a lot of scientists being mistaken.

Wow! Underwhelmed again!

Bubblecar said:

furious said:

Many, Many Times = 5?

Well, 4, if you don’t count the one that was “never fully explained”…

Perhaps they mean that the small number of examples involved quite a lot of scientists being mistaken.

In fairness this was probably not intended to be an exhaustive list.

Cymek said:

Could tethered solar sails be used to create a Dyson sphere type structure

Yes. That’s the only way to do it. The solar sails keep the lines taught that otherwise would tend to sag due to influence of material elasticity and creep.

Cymek said:

I wonder why it is that aliens and gods only visited Earth thousands of years ago and nothing in recent times.

Then you’ve never heard of UFOs, Project Blue Book, or Close encounter of the first, second, …, seventh kind?

With all the talk on the possibility of an alien megastructure

The light from that star is from a Galaxy Far Far Away

When will our radio emissions reach that star system?

CrazyNeutrino said:

With all the talk on the possibility of an alien megastructure

The light from that star is from a Galaxy Far Far Away

When will our radio emissions reach that star system?

In about 1,400 years or so.

Spiny Norman said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

With all the talk on the possibility of an alien megastructure

The light from that star is from a Galaxy Far Far Away

When will our radio emissions reach that star system?

In about 1,400 years or so.

How can science address the problems with past and future communication?

CrazyNeutrino said:

Spiny Norman said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

With all the talk on the possibility of an alien megastructure

The light from that star is from a Galaxy Far Far Away

When will our radio emissions reach that star system?

In about 1,400 years or so.

How can science address the problems with past and future communication?

By using a clock I imagine.