Date: 27/10/2015 12:52:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 793688
Subject: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

The latest Readers Digest notes that everybody rates strong smells differently. A bad smell to one person may be a nice smell to another and vice versa.

Has this ever been tested scientifically with a wide range of smells?

The article claims that how we rate smells depends on our emotional state when we first or usually smell that smell. For instance, the smell of petrol mentally associated with motor racing would be more positive than that associated with an overturned oil tanker. The smell of burning wood from a bonfire would have a more positive influence than that from our house burning down. The smell of our first born’s first nappy could be associated with a nice smell despite it being poo. A mouthful of foul-tasting perfume could put us off the smell of that perfume for life. The same emotional positive and negative connotations could apply to virtually all strong smells: coffee, tobacco, lilies, roses, peppermint, chocolate, garlic, onion, limburger, sweat, gunpowder, etc. The smell of the sea associated with rotting seaweed and fly-blown molluscs would add negative connotations to that smell.

So, does Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2 “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so”, while a lousy moral philosophy, hold true for smells?

I suppose there’s a “socially accepted” separation of smells into nice smells and bad smells. But everybody would find certain smells nice and bad that oppose what is “socially accepted”. Personal experiences? Scientific tests?

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Date: 27/10/2015 12:57:11
From: dv
ID: 793695
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad smells.

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Date: 27/10/2015 13:00:54
From: roughbarked
ID: 793702
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

dv said:

I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad smells.

Do you carry them with you?

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Date: 27/10/2015 16:43:46
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 793835
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

dv said:

I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad smells.

I thought the quote was “Bad dreams, not bad smells.

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Date: 27/10/2015 16:45:37
From: dv
ID: 793836
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

bob(from black rock) said:


dv said:
I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad smells.

I thought the quote was “Bad dreams, not bad smells.

Yes, I was making a relevant joke.

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Date: 27/10/2015 17:14:17
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 793839
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

dv said:


bob(from black rock) said:

dv said:
I could be bounded in a nutshell and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad smells.

I thought the quote was “Bad dreams, not bad smells.

Yes, I was making a relevant joke.

Oops, sorry.

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Date: 27/10/2015 18:28:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 793856
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Yes, it can depend on context. For example, many of the smells associated with fine cheeses are similar to the smells associated with various kinds of body odour. The same individual can find those cheese smells delicious and the BO smells repulsive.

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Date: 27/10/2015 19:48:18
From: transition
ID: 793885
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

The capacity is one involving or lending to calibration by experience, this is necessarily so, as are many things.

A spread of variation’s a good thing to maintain.

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:35:41
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 794580
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

transition said:


The capacity is one involving or lending to calibration by experience, this is necessarily so, as are many things.

A spread of variation’s a good thing to maintain.

There are only two things in the world that smells like fish, and one of them is fish!

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:37:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 794582
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

bob(from black rock) said:


transition said:

The capacity is one involving or lending to calibration by experience, this is necessarily so, as are many things.

A spread of variation’s a good thing to maintain.

There are only two things in the world that smells like fish, and one of them is fish!


So why have you begun two threads about suicide?

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:40:46
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 794585
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

transition said:

The capacity is one involving or lending to calibration by experience, this is necessarily so, as are many things.

A spread of variation’s a good thing to maintain.

There are only two things in the world that smells like fish, and one of them is fish!


So why have you begun two threads about suicide?

To get away from the smell of fish? Fucked if I know?

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:41:41
From: Bubblecar
ID: 794586
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:42:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 794587
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Bubblecar said:


Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

:)

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:46:22
From: Bubblecar
ID: 794590
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

roughbarked said:


Bubblecar said:

Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

:)

Not a smiling matter, it’s true.

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:49:37
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 794594
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

:)

Not a smiling matter, it’s true.

I wonder what % of fish smell is H2S? cos H2S is toxic.

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:49:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 794595
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

:)

Not a smiling matter, it’s true.


Did better than Boris tonight..

someone at least acknowledged one of my bad jokes.
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Date: 28/10/2015 23:56:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 794602
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

bob(from black rock) said:


I wonder what % of fish smell is H2S? cos H2S is toxic.

Typical gases involved in rotting fish: HCN, H2S, NH3

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Date: 28/10/2015 23:59:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 794603
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Bubblecar said:


bob(from black rock) said:

I wonder what % of fish smell is H2S? cos H2S is toxic.

Typical gases involved in rotting fish: HCN, H2S, NH3

Doesn’t matter which ones for me.. I can’t get near any of them. Fer crys’ake, I was subject to fish on Fridays.. It really sucked being an inlander in the days of mercury filled shark and dodgy refrigeration. Buggered if I know but I exhibited allergic reactions so I got let off eating fishy shit from an early age.

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Date: 29/10/2015 00:00:53
From: dv
ID: 794604
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

Bubblecar said:


roughbarked said:

Bubblecar said:

Fish gas can be lethal. A number of fishermen have died upon entering ships’ holds full of rotting fish.

:)

Not a smiling matter, it’s true.

Damn. Just anoxia or is there something actually poisonous?

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Date: 29/10/2015 00:02:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 794606
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

dv said:


Bubblecar said:

roughbarked said:

:)

Not a smiling matter, it’s true.

Damn. Just anoxia or is there something actually poisonous?

Anoxia + nasties.

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Date: 29/10/2015 00:03:55
From: dv
ID: 794608
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

One would hope these days it is nice and refrigerated

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Date: 29/10/2015 00:05:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 794612
Subject: re: Smells (and Hamlet Act 2 Scene 2)

dv said:


One would hope these days it is nice and refrigerated

Too late .. for me, though I always enjoyed dropping a line in. I would have to throw them all back.

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