I’ve got a couple of them so I’ll do them one at a time.
The white flowers, what be that plant.

And this yellow varmint.

And these little yellow chaps.

And this tle

And this bush, it’s got tiny white flowers.

Peak Warming Man said:

And this tle

wild radish?

JudgeMental said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And this tle

wild radish?

No the thistle thing.

The first white thing is clover.

First yellow thing looks like a feral hollyhock.

Peak Warming Man said:

And this yellow varmint.

Verbascum virgatum – twiggy mullein.

Native of Europe. Weed of the roadside.

ruby said:

The first white thing is clover.

I’d agree with that.

ruby said:

The first white thing is clover.

Hi Ruby.
I don’t think so, the head looks like it but the foliage underneath doesn’t look like clover at all.

I do believe Buffy is right about the Verbascum.

D’oh.

need some in focus close-ups.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And this yellow varmint.

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/SDC10396_zpsa8pzomhv.jpg

Verbascum virgatum – twiggy mullein.

Native of Europe. Weed of the roadside.

Thanks buffy, I wont kill it though, it’s quite pretty.

I thought the clover may have been a trick question.

Yes, need closer pics of plant bits.

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And this yellow varmint.

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/SDC10396_zpsa8pzomhv.jpg

Verbascum virgatum – twiggy mullein.

Native of Europe. Weed of the roadside.

Thanks buffy, I wont kill it though, it’s quite pretty.

Kill it. It spreads. A lot. It will seed all over the place.

Sorry, got distracted. Long just found a lovely healthy blue-tongue lizard in the backyard and Mr buffy thought he had a snake. Anyway, lizard relocated to Auntie Annie’s next door. Long is feisty and has no sense whatsoever.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

buffy said:

Verbascum virgatum – twiggy mullein.

Native of Europe. Weed of the roadside.

Thanks buffy, I wont kill it though, it’s quite pretty.

Kill it. It spreads. A lot. It will seed all over the place.

OK.

Second yellow plant, wild guess, Chrysocephalum.

I like that the Verbascum belongs to Scrophulariaceae.

I think it might be declared weed in Victoria, not sure.

and that grassy looking plant in the first pic looks like south african tussock grass. weed.

shopped…

We really do need better pictures please.

Although roughy might be able to help you…

OK I’ll get better photos next time and put them in here.

Peak Warming Man said:

OK I’ll get better photos next time and put them in here.

Yes, your photography skills leave much to be desired by forum standards, I hope you’re ashamed of yourself right now.

i was going to say that but no one takes me seriously around here. coming from you though poik, i hope PWM bucks his ideas up.

> Peak Warming Man

You posted 5 photos. Did you get 5 answers? I see answers to Nos 1, 2 & 4.
For the third I can’t even tell if the flowers are pea-like, or if the leaves are dandelion-like.
I have a book on Australian weeds in the back room, both naturalised and introduced ones.

I use a video camera to get semi-good shots of flowers, I set it on widest angle and then bring the lens as close as possible to the object, like 1 cm or so.

Another trick I use is to pick a flower or two and a leaf and put them together on a sheet of grey paper (I pre-print 50% grey for background), then photograph against that background to get true colour.

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve got a couple of them so I’ll do them one at a time.
The white flowers, what be that plant.

eg. Your photo of clover should look like this. it doesn’t have to be razor sharp, just good enough to ID.

Cloverphoto school

Plantus schmantis Vulgaris?

bob(from black rock) said:

Plantus schmantis Vulgaris?

Yeah, that’s the trouble I was having in the bioblitz. ID = “common weed”.

Peak Warming Man said:

ruby said:

The first white thing is clover.

Hi Ruby.
I don’t think so, the head looks like it but the foliage underneath doesn’t look like clover at all.

Well, you are just going to have tyo take some more identifiable photos.

If your first image hasn’t got trifoliate leaves, then try looking up Ptilotus?

Peak Warming Man said:

And this bush, it’s got tiny white flowers.

Creamy greenish white? Did it have any fruits?

Not that I could see, look like African acacia trees but shrubby.

It might actually be African boxthorn.

Peak Warming Man said:

Not that I could see, look like African acacia trees but shrubby.

Did you google Maytenus?

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not that I could see, look like African acacia trees but shrubby.

Did you google Maytenus?

No.

Peak Warming Man said:

It might actually be African boxthorn.

Hmm. Your photos need to be better. African box thorn has smooth thick fleshy leaves to 40 mm long and 12 mm wide. Rounded at the ends and tapered towards the base, shortly stalked or stalkless,, clustered in groups of 5-12. Single alternate leaves may be present on new shoots for a short time.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

Not that I could see, look like African acacia trees but shrubby.

Did you google Maytenus?

No.

It could help at least remove that from the suspect list.
Try googling African boxthorn too.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Did you google Maytenus?

No.

It could help at least remove that from the suspect list.
Try googling African boxthorn too.

AB looks like it could be it, I’ll have a better look at Maytenus later there’s quite a few variations.
Thanks.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No.

It could help at least remove that from the suspect list.
Try googling African boxthorn too.

AB looks like it could be it, I’ll have a better look at Maytenus later there’s quite a few variations.
Thanks.

African boxthorn flowers have blue/mauve in them as well as white.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

It could help at least remove that from the suspect list.
Try googling African boxthorn too.

AB looks like it could be it, I’ll have a better look at Maytenus later there’s quite a few variations.
Thanks.

African boxthorn flowers have blue/mauve in them as well as white.

Very thorny too.

pj: start and finish times?

I’ll check with Mrs V when she gets back from her afternoon walk, but I reckon it will happen.

Sorry, wrong thread…

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

AB looks like it could be it, I’ll have a better look at Maytenus later there’s quite a few variations.
Thanks.

African boxthorn flowers have blue/mauve in them as well as white.

Very thorny too.

True of African boxthorn but not true of Maytenus.

This is a closer look at it.

That looks like Cactus Fuctus.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

Shopped!

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0004_zpsessnpzrn.jpg

The yellow flowers to the right are far more interesting.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0004_zpsessnpzrn.jpg

The yellow flowers to the right are far more interesting.

I don’t know what they are either.

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0004_zpsessnpzrn.jpg

Cheer it up and it might be easier to identify…

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0004_zpsessnpzrn.jpg

Look like Australian Bluebells.

Aussie Bluebells:

Bubblecar said:

Aussie Bluebells:

Looks like them.
Thanks Bubbles.

Bubblecar said:

Aussie Bluebells:

And for scientificness….Wahlenbergia sp. (Yes, I had to check my memory was not failing me)

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

Still difficult. 5 petals, bush, white. Maybe look at Marsdenia suaveolens and Phebalium squameum. Note, my key guide was published in 1987, so names may have been changed.

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

I think you may actually have three yellow ones there, but they are all out of focus. Very wild guesses would be maybe dandelion(weed) or native yam daisy (right over on the far, far right), a five petalled (?) flat flower, could be one of the Hibbertias, and maybe the ones that look like drumsticks could be one of the everlastings. All those names have been changed, I can’t think of them at the moment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craspedia

Maybe

Or perhaps:

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Leptorhynchos~squamatus

They could both be in your area, I think. Not easy to photograph, are they, the buggers. I have all sorts of trouble with yellow flowers and white flowers. They insist on flaring.

buffy said:

Or perhaps:

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Leptorhynchos~squamatus

They could both be in your area, I think. Not easy to photograph, are they, the buggers. I have all sorts of trouble with yellow flowers and white flowers. They insist on flaring.

Thsnks Buffy, that last one looks close, the one before that not so much.

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

Doesn’t look anything like African Boxthorn.

Peak Warming Man said:

And this is another one, the blue flower, what be it?

Looks like Whalenbergia.

buffy said:

Bubblecar said:

Aussie Bluebells:

And for scientificness….Wahlenbergia sp. (Yes, I had to check my memory was not failing me)

Yeah. My memory of the spelling, failed me.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0001_zps5u2wdu9d.jpg

Doesn’t look anything like African Boxthorn.

No it doesn’t.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

Still difficult. 5 petals, bush, white. Maybe look at Marsdenia suaveolens and Phebalium squameum. Note, my key guide was published in 1987, so names may have been changed.

None of this rules out Maytenus

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is a closer look at it.

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0001_zps5u2wdu9d.jpg

Doesn’t look anything like African Boxthorn.

No it doesn’t.

I’m nearly certain that it’s not clover.

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

Doesn’t look anything like African Boxthorn.

No it doesn’t.

I’m nearly certain that it’s not clover.

Not even in the ballpark.

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

Peak Warming Man said:

No it doesn’t.

I’m nearly certain that it’s not clover.

Not even in the ballpark.

PWM, Mate. You do realise this is a science forum look alike, where we try and pretend we now somethings about little.

Trouble is, we need a bit of a closer look at what you want us to pin tails on donkeys.

I’m sure you are not even asking the right questions in many ways. Why ask us to ID an inconspicuous flower that has no detail when there are leaves present that you should be asking about?

Why even suggest African Boxthorn? Is the plant thorny?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

I’m nearly certain that it’s not clover.

Not even in the ballpark.

PWM, Mate. You do realise this is a science forum look alike, where we try and pretend we now somethings about little.

Trouble is, we need a bit of a closer look at what you want us to pin tails on donkeys.

I’m sure you are not even asking the right questions in many ways. Why ask us to ID an inconspicuous flower that has no detail when there are leaves present that you should be asking about?

Why even suggest African Boxthorn? Is the plant thorny?

How far are you away from me? I can arrive and bring better camera capability and even some books we can look up over a few beers.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Not even in the ballpark.

PWM, Mate. You do realise this is a science forum look alike, where we try and pretend we now somethings about little.

Trouble is, we need a bit of a closer look at what you want us to pin tails on donkeys.

I’m sure you are not even asking the right questions in many ways. Why ask us to ID an inconspicuous flower that has no detail when there are leaves present that you should be asking about?

Why even suggest African Boxthorn? Is the plant thorny?

How far are you away from me? I can arrive and bring better camera capability and even some books we can look up over a few beers.

I can even chuck my vernier calipers in.

It does look like a Boxthorn (Lycium sp.), if not the African, then possibly the Chinese Boxthorn. Does it have a spine at the end of the branchlets?

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Lycium~barbarum

PermeateFree said:

It does look like a Boxthorn (Lycium sp.), if not the African, then possibly the Chinese Boxthorn. Does it have a spine at the end of the branchlets?

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Lycium~barbarum

If no spines.. http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Denhamia~cunninghamii

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

It does look like a Boxthorn (Lycium sp.), if not the African, then possibly the Chinese Boxthorn. Does it have a spine at the end of the branchlets?

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Lycium~barbarum

If no spines.. http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Denhamia~cunninghamii

Does the bark look like this?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

It does look like a Boxthorn (Lycium sp.), if not the African, then possibly the Chinese Boxthorn. Does it have a spine at the end of the branchlets?

http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Lycium~barbarum

If no spines.. http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Denhamia~cunninghamii

Does the bark look like this?

It’s not that rough.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

If no spines.. http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Denhamia~cunninghamii

Does the bark look like this?

It’s not that rough.

Well what you need is a camera that can focus close enough to get some better detailed shots. zoom in on leaves flowers bark and fruits. Otherwise measure and describe as accurately as you can. The photos you have shown aren’t quite good enough to ID anything accurately.

I’ve been banging on about Maytenus though it is an old name. http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Maytenus_cunninghamii.htm

It may not be common but it is found in a wide range of environments.

This photo isn’t terribly good but is probably better than yours. It is often difficult to get good close shots when there are gusty breezes. However, you can see the flowers and leaves and a berry or two.

Self-planted lupins in bloom by the side of the house. I thought I’d give these one more season before clearing them (many bushes have been cleared). Tumbledown henshed in the background at top.

From that CSIRO link, there is this photo.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/23074995355/sizes/c/

roughbarked said:

and this link..

https://www.flickr.com/photos/roughbarked/23074995355/sizes/c/

Should show this. Another not very good photo but I was hanging onto a steep slippery slope with one hand while the breezes and camera shake took the photo.

Bubblecar said:

Self-planted lupins in bloom by the side of the house. I thought I’d give these one more season before clearing them (many bushes have been cleared). Tumbledown henshed in the background at top.

!http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i199/bubcar9/lupinsi_zpsjudo1zed.jpg

!http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i199/bubcar9/lupinsib_zpsyxnun1jz.jpg

The soil should be good for some veg there.

roughbarked said:

I’ve been banging on about Maytenus though it is an old name. http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Maytenus_cunninghamii.htm

It may not be common but it is found in a wide range of environments.

This photo isn’t terribly good but is probably better than yours. It is often difficult to get good close shots when there are gusty breezes. However, you can see the flowers and leaves and a berry or two.

Bump for PWM. There’s a few posts I made that you should have a look at.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been banging on about Maytenus though it is an old name. http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Maytenus_cunninghamii.htm

It may not be common but it is found in a wide range of environments.

This photo isn’t terribly good but is probably better than yours. It is often difficult to get good close shots when there are gusty breezes. However, you can see the flowers and leaves and a berry or two.

That flower looks suspiciously like the flower in my photo, what plant is that.
You know you can zoom in (in IE) by ctrl and + and reset back to original view by ctrl and 0.

Bump for PWM. There’s a few posts I made that you should have a look at.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Maytenus_cunninghamii.htm

That flower looks suspiciously like the flower in my photo, what plant is that. You know you can zoom in (in IE) by ctrl and + and reset back to original view by ctrl and 0.

Maytenus cunninghamii or several other names I’ve already mentioned and posted links to in this thread. It is commonly known as yellow berry bush. An uncommon but widespread native.

Peak Warming Man said:

roughbarked said:

http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Maytenus_cunninghamii.htm

That flower looks suspiciously like the flower in my photo, what plant is that. You know you can zoom in (in IE) by ctrl and + and reset back to original view by ctrl and 0.

Maytenus cunninghamii or several other names I’ve already mentioned and posted links to in this thread. It is commonly known as yellow berry bush. An uncommon but widespread native.

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

Peak Warming Man said:

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

Photo now tells me that is may not be Maytenus cunninghamii.

roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

Photo now tells me that is may not be Maytenus cunninghamii.

If you cut any of the beries with a sharp knife, try counting the segments and the number of seeds. Typically, Maytenus are two valved with one to two seeds.

With Buffy-Who-Knows-All absent, I’m going to say that looks somewhat like a cotoneaster.

I think it’s this one.

https://www.anbg.gov.au/cgi-bin/phtml?pc=a&pn=20464&size=3

Peak Warming Man said:

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

bump

And do you want me to look this up then, PWM?

Yes.

I’ll have a go. Was it decided it was Maytenus? I don’t know that stuff.

I’ll scan through the photos in my wild food plants book first. Back shortly.

buffy said:

I’ll scan through the photos in my wild food plants book first. Back shortly.

Jolly good.

buffy said:

I’ll have a go. Was it decided it was Maytenus? I don’t know that stuff.

I think it’s maytenus silvestris

I’m starting from scratch. Just in case. There are no Maytenus in my food book. But it doesn’t have to be edible, and it doesn’t have to be local either.

Hang on, I’m chasing something.

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

bump

And do you want me to look this up then, PWM?

I’m a doctor, not a botanist, but I’m pretty sure that’s what we in the know call a plant.

OCDC said:

buffy said:

Peak Warming Man said:

This is what the Maytenus (not surewehat type) flowers have turned into, will be berries soon.

!http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/PeterT_01/IMG_0017_zpsptdgvu8i.jpg

Is that photo satisfactory Roughie?

bump

And do you want me to look this up then, PWM?

I’m a doctor, not a botanist, but I’m pretty sure that’s what we in the know call a plant.

I kind of wanted it to be Myoporum montanum. But it’s not quite right.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myoporum_montanum

I’ll go with the Maytena thing. Even though I have no idea what that is.

Or maybe not Maytenus. I’ve got another idea where to look.

So, not having a lot of luck here. I think we probably need Permeate. He is the real botanist. I’m just an amateur with a collection of picture books.

or Neo, she’s a real botanist too.

JudgeMental said:

or Neo, she’s a real botanist too.

Yes, I believe you are right. Forgot that. Sorry Neo.

Neomyrtus hasn’t posted here for ages.

i see her on FB. we always got on.

Bubblecar said:

Neomyrtus hasn’t posted here for ages.

has something better to do?

JudgeMental said:

i see her on FB. we always got on.

I don’t have facebook and I do miss neomyrtus a lot.

Anyway it definitely isn’t Myoporum montanum.

I’m not sure it is Maytenus either, now.

in PWM’s last photo, the berries look to have more than two valves.