if you want to go to war with me

come here, the water is fine

i dare you

its funny

you see each successive government keep making the same fundamental mistakes with the same results

every now and then you’d bump into some old dude that would then be able to give a full run down on exactly what had been happening and putting into perspective perhaps 60 years of history

the same mistakes over and over again

then you’ve got the true believers – gullible people that have little in the way of critical thought – they swallow all this crap hook , line and sinker and wonder why things are getting worse

the plan as usual is to raise taxes again, so whilst jobs are going backwards (regardless of whatever information is being released from the government) the GST will be pushed up again to prop up companies that thrive on government contracts. its a sweet deal

Poor form wookie.

i think you hit a certain age when you sit back and start analysing whats gone wrong

my situation is fairly stuffed , i’ve sat back and watched educational courses grow more and more expensive , a diploma at TAFE costs 20,000 in Brisbane yet only perhaps 8 years ago it was costing 1500

people do sit back, they let it happen, stupid things

joe hockey is on record complaining about the cost of uni courses yet once in power a few decades later had already become part of the problem

tauto said:

Poor form wookie.

oh no not at all

i call out bullies now

ignoring them is the worse thing you can do

boris has all the hate as far as i can see, but i can be proven wrong of course

How will this help?

the best teacher i ever had made nuclear bombs for the british

the lessons were clear and concise, structured all kinds of crazy things – he’d written his own course notes

i remember being at the apprentice centre first year and one of the trainers came to me telling me that TAFE had approached him to teach various subjects – i asked him exactly what and after thinking , advised him to not touch it with a barge pole

i hadnt been particularly impressed with the previous years at TAFE anyway. the teachers for the trades weren’t given standard teaching text, they had to create their own teaching texts meanign nothing was standardised

in QLD they have given up and are just giving them the answers now – its not feasible to teach

tauto said:

How will this help?

its like a boil, you have to burst it

ULTIMATE 9/11 PREDICTION.Sean Connery(1982)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J34-mtBGhxQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrong_Is_Right

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

How will this help?

its like a boil, you have to burst it

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So Boris has burst your cistern…

tauto said:

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

How will this help?

its like a boil, you have to burst it

—-

So Boris has burst your cistern…

i’ve grown tired of the lunatics

in the real world i’ll just resist them until they devour the host

BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

wookiemeister said:

its like a boil, you have to burst it

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So Boris has burst your cistern…

i’ve grown tired of the lunatics

in the real world i’ll just resist them until they devour the host

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What is this “real world” you talk about?

tauto said:

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

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So Boris has burst your cistern…

i’ve grown tired of the lunatics

in the real world i’ll just resist them until they devour the host

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What is this “real world” you talk about?

look around

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

wookiemeister said:

i’ve grown tired of the lunatics

in the real world i’ll just resist them until they devour the host

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What is this “real world” you talk about?

look around

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So where is the other world?

tauto said:

wookiemeister said:

tauto said:

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What is this “real world” you talk about?

look around

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So where is the other world?

feel free to tell me

i’m checking out some conspiracy stuff

the false flag conspiracy thing is already in full swing

for the attacks in france

logically wouldn’t the G20 meeting be a huge target for the worlds most cashed up terrorist group?

could you get away with assassinating a world leader under the guise of a terrorist at the G20 meeting?

they going to try and kill Putin?

Russian President Vladimir Putin arrived on Sunday for a meeting of the G20 economies in Turkey’s Antalya.

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/Russias-Putin-lands-in-Antalya-for-G20-summit-433122

‘Plot to assassinate Putin foiled’

Two men were arrested by police in London over a suspected plot to kill Russian President Vladimir Putin, according to reports.

The Russian nationals, said to be renegade intelligence officers, were planning to have Mr Putin shot while on a foreign trip, according to the Sunday Times.

Scotland Yard confirmed that two Russian men had been held and questioned by anti-terrorist officers in London over a five-day period.

“We can confirm two men aged 40 and 36 were arrested by officers from SO13 (the anti-terrorist branch) on the morning of Sunday, October 12 in central London following allegations of offences under the Terrorism Act 2000,” a spokeswoman said.

She added that the men were released on Friday without further action but refused to confirm reports that this was on condition they returned to Russia.

SO13 was alerted when they received a detailed legal statement from a former intelligence officer in Russia’s FSB, the main successor organisation to the KGB, according to the newspaper.

The informant alleged that the two arrested men were trying to engage Russian exiles in Britain in the conspiracy to kill Mr Putin.

One of the suspects, reported to be a former KGB major, gave details of the plot to the informant in a phone call to him, the newspaper claimed.

But the informant feared that attempts were being made to set him up by implicating him in the plot and reported the incident immediately.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-200197/Plot-assassinate-Putin-foiled.html#ixzz3rZNv7QCA
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/11/13/austrians-train-europe-police-for-fantasy-putin-assassination/

See this is good, you have your own thread that boris can ignore.

Millionaire Mikhail Lesin, 57, was found dead in $240-a-night in Washington DC last Friday and police are investigating The pro-Putin ‘propaganda channel’ he set up, RT, claimed he ‘had been suffering from a prolonged unidentified illness’ But DC police have made no such finding and now speculation is mounting in Russia that he was murdered because he had turned FBI informer Know as ‘the Bulldozer’ he was key to media falling into line with Putin but had recently found new love and become father with Siberian model, 29

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3315994/Vladimir-Putin-s-media-mastermind-dead-DC-hotel-murdered-FBI-informant-alive-claim-Russians.html#ixzz3rZPPgXy0
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

tauto said:

See this is good, you have your own thread that boris can ignore.

some creative thinking

Sigmund Freud considered shooting the messenger a “marginal case of this kind of defense…of fending off what is distressing or unbearable,” citing the example of “the famous lament of the Spanish Moors Ay de mi Alhama, which tells how King Boabdil received the news of the fall of his city of Alhama. He feels that this loss means the end of his rule. But he will not ‘let it be true….He threw the letters in the fire and killed the messenger.’”

Freud added that “a further determinant of this behaviour of the king was his need to combat a feeling of powerlessness. By burning the letters and having the messenger killed he was still trying to show his absolute power.”

Carl G. Jung, a peer of Freud’s, describes the Shadow in the individual as part of the unconscious mind, which is largely negative. “Everyone carries a shadow,” Jung wrote, “and the less it is embodied in the individual’s conscious life, the blacker and denser it is”. It may be in part one’s links to more primitive animal instincts, which are superseded in early childhood by the conscious mind . V.G. Hufnagel bioethics expert wrote, “the shadow of the institution protects its own fraternity”. The fraternity members form a collective and share a collective consciousness with a predatory instinctive animal in nature and hold the fears of childhood. These fears stimulate actions to destroy any message that may harm them. There is no cognitive process in these actions. These are forced on death of an individual and of an idea through human sacrifice. There are religious aspects to these actions. The fraternity of authority believes it holds a right to exterminate those who could harm them.

The Shadow is also part of the psychology of institutions. Institutions however have enormous funds to use unlike the individual whistleblower. Institutions also have massive communication systems and a loyal population that supports the institution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_the_messenger

A modern version of attacking the messenger can be perceived when someone blames the media for presenting bad news about a favored cause, person, organization, etc. The fact remains that “shooting the messenger may be a time-honored emotional response to unwelcomed news, but it is not a very effective method of remaining well-informed.”

Getting rid of the messenger may be a tactical move, but danger found in nondisclosure may result in either hostile responses or negative feedback from others. “People learn very quickly where this is the case, and will studiously avoid giving any negative feedback; thus the ‘Emperor’ continues with the self-delusion….Obviously this is not a recipe for success.” Barbara Ehrenreich in Bright-sided/Smile or Die argued that a culture of “thinking positive” so as to “purge ‘negative people’ from the ranks… the bubble-itis” of the 2000s.

Reactions to the whistleblowing organization WikiLeaks led to calls not to shoot the messenger.

wookiemeister said:

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Not needed , just like this thread. UNWARRENTED

My 2c:

Don’t know what’s been happening lately but this forum usually works pretty well by people ignoring Chat comments that don’t interest them, rather than telling the poster to “fuck off”, as it seems Boris did last night. No need for that kind of aggro.

We’re normally quite nice here, and I vote we stay that way :)

….but, but….I love tell people to fuck off :(

kii said:

….but, but….I love tell people to fuck off :(

It’s only words and words are not bullets.

kii said:

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I fail to see mindfulness in sarcasm.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

….but, but….I love tell people to fuck off :(

It’s only words and words are not bullets.

The wise are aware of their treasure, while fools follow their vanity.

roughbarked said:

kii said:

!https://sarcasticmindfulness.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/1339426725154_9146065.png

I fail to see mindfulness in sarcasm.

To forgive others one more time is to create one more blessing for yourself.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

!https://sarcasticmindfulness.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/1339426725154_9146065.png

I fail to see mindfulness in sarcasm.

To forgive others one more time is to create one more blessing for yourself.

I am showered with blessings.

wookiemeister said:

BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

LOL

Divine Angel said:

wookiemeister said:

BACK TO THE FUTURE predicts 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ULjJ3EqyY

LOL

you have to give them some credit

its taken some thought to put this together

A Thames Valley Police spokesman said: “We have arrested a 43-year-old woman in Bicester today after a number of complaints about a racially abusive post on social media.

The post read: “Blinks of Bicester are no longer taking bookings from anyone from the Islamic faith whether you are UK granted with passport or not.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619627/Woman-arrested-for-ban-on-Muslims-Facebook-post-after-Paris-terror-attacks

hitting them terrorists hard

UK terror attack ‘highly likely’ as security stepped up British ports and major events
BORDER security and police checks at major public events in the UK will be stepped up in the wake of the Paris terror attacks, Britain’s most senior counter-terrorism officer has said, thousands of Facebook posters complaining about Islam have already been arrested in sweeping raids across the country.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/619409/Paris-terror-attacks-security-tightened-British-ports-events-Met-police

I read two of the Paris terrorists travelled to Europe during october posing as Syrian refugees.

must b what Abbott was warning European leaders about in his Thatcher address

they aren’t sure of the ID they were carrying being truthful anyway

Brussels district of Sint-Jans Molenbeek – known by locals as the “den of terrorists”

i guess the next world war, islam Vs the rest, will b made up of many civil wars

The_observer said:

Brussels district of Sint-Jans Molenbeek – known by locals as the “den of terrorists”

i guess the next world war, islam Vs the rest, will b made up of many civil wars

Isn’t that what the fundamentalists want, watch the world burn

Cymek said:

The_observer said:

Brussels district of Sint-Jans Molenbeek – known by locals as the “den of terrorists”

i guess the next world war, islam Vs the rest, will b made up of many civil wars

Isn’t that what the fundamentalists want, watch the world burn

its a world where only one voice is heard

long article cymek if you want a bit of good analysis. it is long.

https://newrepublic.com/article/121286/how-islamic-islamic-state

Modern day terrorists who take hostages don’t seem to want anything except to kill as many as they can so one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

ChrispenEvan said:

long article cymek if you want a bit of good analysis. it is long.

https://newrepublic.com/article/121286/how-islamic-islamic-state

Thanks

Cymek said:

Modern day terrorists who take hostages don’t seem to want anything except to kill as many as they can so one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

there’s no negotiation just shoot to kill when the first team gets there – they have the authority to storm the building as soon as it happens

in the chocolate hostage situation the police sat and waited , then the swat team sat around and waited – the command structure is paralysed in the face of the new paradigm

• one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

The problem with rushing them is that they often seem to have explosives wrapped around themselves…

wookiemeister said:

Cymek said:

Modern day terrorists who take hostages don’t seem to want anything except to kill as many as they can so one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

there’s no negotiation just shoot to kill when the first team gets there – they have the authority to storm the building as soon as it happens

in the chocolate hostage situation the police sat and waited , then the swat team sat around and waited – the command structure is paralysed in the face of the new paradigm

the lindt cafe siege was not an organised terroist attack.. just some lone dude who thought he had control – he didn’t. in the recent cases, storm and shoot seems sage.. they knew the perps were not planning on coming out alive.. better to save some than none. IMO

furious said:

• one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

The problem with rushing them is that they often seem to have explosives wrapped around themselves…

Yeah

furious said:

• one does wonder if you might have better odds rushing them than waiting to be rescued

The problem with rushing them is that they often seem to have explosives wrapped around themselves…

sure, but they plan on using them anyway..

I had thought the fact that one detonated outside the stadium a bit odd, why outside, when inside would be a better target? apparently they were turned away… so said some new outlet

so, guy goes to gate, security pats him down, says no go away… security then does not contact anyone about the suspicious dude they just turned away? what’s going on there?

for terror hostage situations they should hand over authority to the army/ special forces

some bogan with a shotgun can be dealt with by the police

boris can you limit your abuse to this thread please or i’ll make another for you

If we down at least one UFO we’ll be facing an interstellar war – Former Defense Minister of Canada

https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco/137959-anadaminister-defense-ufo/