Jesus Christ committed suicide, he knew that if he went to a particular location he would be killed in a most cruel way, nailed to a cross, his Dad knew this would happen and did nothing to stop it, so why shouldn’t the rest of us be allowed to end our lives when we like and how we like?
bob(from black rock) said:
Jesus Christ committed suicide, he knew that if he went to a particular location he would be killed in a most cruel way, nailed to a cross, his Dad knew this would happen and did nothing to stop it, so why shouldn’t the rest of us be allowed to end our lives when we like and how we like?
In fact his Dad not only knew that this would happen, but planed the event.
I had to take a sick day……I’m so sick of people.
(AKA as Mental Health Day)
meh..wrong thread.
Whatever…
kii said:
I had to take a sick day……I’m so sick of people.
(AKA as Mental Health Day)
So by “sick day” do you mean you are taking a temporary suicide day? how the fuck does that work?
Here, have some kittens.
kii said:
Here, have some kittens.
Do you have a recipie?
Uh…oh. Run away, run away!!!!
kii said:
Here, have some kittens.
Thanks, how the fuck do you cook ‘em?
bob(from black rock) said:
kii said:
Here, have some kittens.
Thanks, how the fuck do you cook ‘em?
Goodness, you are predictable.
Bob, didn’t you ask the same question last month?
Suicide, why the strong opposition to it from some people?
And in June?
Suicide, why is there such rabid opposition to it?
To be fair, Bob admits his memory ain’t what it used to be. He often doesn’t remember repeating his posts.
Divine Angel said:
To be fair, Bob admits his memory ain’t what it used to be. He often doesn’t remember repeating his posts.
Anyway, he should be talking to Andrew Denton.
bob(from black rock) said:
Jesus Christ committed suicide, he knew that if he went to a particular location he would be killed in a most cruel way, nailed to a cross, his Dad knew this would happen and did nothing to stop it, so why shouldn’t the rest of us be allowed to end our lives when we like and how we like?
put that way, it seems self-evidently a substantially swisted initiation into some reality (the message in the story) of social existence
http://www.businessinsider.com.au/many-suicides-are-based-on-an-impulsive-decision-2014-8
Anywhere from one-third to 80% of all suicide attempts are impulsive acts, according to The New England Journal of Medicine. 24% of those who made near-lethal suicide attempts decided to kill themselves less than five minutes before the attempt, and 70% made the decision within an hour of the attempt.
Suicidal urges are sometimes caused by immediate stressors, such as a break-up or job loss, that go away with the passage of time. 90% of people who survive suicide attempts, including the most lethal types like shooting one’s self in the head, don’t end up killing themselves later. That statistic reflects the “temporary nature and fleeting sway of many suicidal crises,” reports The New England Journal of Medicine.
A 1978 study of 515 people who were prevented from attempting suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge between 1937 and 1971 found after more than 26 years 94% were still alive or had died of natural causes.
Many rare survivors of Golden Gate Bridge suicide attempts recall regretting their impulsive decisions instantly — even as they were falling. A couple survivors who jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge told their stories to The New Yorker back in 2003, like then-18-year-old Kevin Hines who jumped in 2000 after pacing on the bridge for a half hour while passersby ignored him.
bob(from black rock) said:
bob(from black rock) said:
Jesus Christ committed suicide, he knew that if he went to a particular location he would be killed in a most cruel way, nailed to a cross, his Dad knew this would happen and did nothing to stop it, so why shouldn’t the rest of us be allowed to end our lives when we like and how we like?
In fact his Dad not only knew that this would happen, but planed the event.
http://www.truegospel.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/basics.tour/ID/8/Why-Was-Jesus-Christ-Crucified-for-Our-Sins.htm
This, then, is why God has provided a way for the separation between Himself and man to be removed through the atoning sacrifice of His firstborn Son. God is creating man in His image and likeness (Genesis 1:26). The death penalty incurred by the sins of mankind had to be paid to make possible God’s great purpose of bringing many sons to glory. Without the removal of the defilement of sin, God the Father could not walk in agreement with His as-yet-unborn children.
Gammy leg?
Has anyone ever been charged with committing suicide.
headsie said:
Has anyone ever been charged with committing suicide.
No, but you could be charged with Attempting to commit suicide, you cant charge a corpse with anything.
bob(from black rock) said:
headsie said:
Has anyone ever been charged with committing suicide.
No, but you could be charged with Attempting to commit suicide, you cant charge a corpse with anything.
No, from my understanding, people cannot be charged with attempting to commit suicide.
CrazyNeutrino said:
bob(from black rock) said:
headsie said:
Has anyone ever been charged with committing suicide.
No, but you could be charged with Attempting to commit suicide, you cant charge a corpse with anything.
No, from my understanding, people cannot be charged with attempting to commit suicide.
Cannot, or are not?
>Has anyone ever been charged with committing suicide.
i’d expect the spirit of its origins is in a number of things
a) escaping ones ill-deeds (not just the law, but too perhaps the informal punishments etc)
b) threatening to escape ones ill-deeds (in such a way)
c) that culture does care about the living.
d) there is too the backdrop of the state (part of its defining attributes) having a monopoly over violence.
try in here, dickhead
the commit part ( which I never use) makes it that in the case you, for example, killed someone (say intentionally here), that the charge of murder made impossible and essentially null and obliterated by the suicide (because that person’s no longer an entity) well, it sort of becomes secondary and subject to (understood in association with) the offense of self-murder.
a. There’s several forms of suicide that are not opposed – They’re applauded, even. ‘Giving one’s life’ in war, or in service of the state, for example.
b. As in life, there a many ways to stuff up death. Many people survive their suicide attempts, only to find themselves in very poor medical condition that makes the rest of their lives a misery, and leaves them highly dependent upon the people around them. Approximately 40% of all high-level acquired brain injuries are survived suicides. There is no comedy in the irony that a even a person who feels that their life is not worth living can make their own situation very much worse.
Rule 303 said:
Approximately 40% of all high-level acquired brain injuries are survived suicides. There is no comedy in the irony that a even a person who feels that their life is not worth living can make their own situation very much worse.
The brain damage thing happened to a childhood friend and neighbour of mine, tried to hang himself with an electrical cord.
poikilotherm said:
The brain damage thing happened to a childhood friend and neighbour of mine, tried to hang himself with an electrical cord.
*nods *
Very sad.
Should have clarified, by ‘high-level’ I mean high dependent. People who cant, feed, toilet, wash, dress etc themselves and need 24 hour care.
Bob, if you really want to look into the subject, there’s an exhaustive (although now very old) work called ‘Suicide’ by an Anthropologist named Emile Durkheim.
For more general life-and-death morality, you wont go past Jonathan Glover’s ‘Causing Death and Saving Lives’.
Both excellent.
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:The brain damage thing happened to a childhood friend and neighbour of mine, tried to hang himself with an electrical cord.
*nods *
Very sad.
Should have clarified, by ‘high-level’ I mean high dependent. People who cant, feed, toilet, wash, dress etc themselves and need 24 hour care.
Plus you’d probably still have suicidal ideations and have no ability to act on them and in actual fact possibly be a euthanasia candidate.
Cymek said:
Rule 303 said:
poikilotherm said:The brain damage thing happened to a childhood friend and neighbour of mine, tried to hang himself with an electrical cord.
*nods *
Very sad.
Should have clarified, by ‘high-level’ I mean high dependent. People who cant, feed, toilet, wash, dress etc themselves and need 24 hour care.
Plus you’d probably still have suicidal ideations and have no ability to act on them and in actual fact possibly be a euthanasia candidate.
according to the stats I posted earlier
90% of people who survive suicide attempts, including the most lethal types like shooting one’s self in the head, don’t end up killing themselves later
do you want to kill yourself bob?
Here is your previous thread on this topic, bob
http://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/6212/
dv said:
Here is your previous thread on this topic, bobhttp://tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/?main=http%3A//tokyo3.org/forums/holiday/topics/6212/
Thanks dv
wookiemeister said:
do you want to kill yourself bob?
No, but I don’t want to be kept alive against my will if my life becomes miserable, due to say pain, or other incureable medical problems, both physical and mental..