A team of chemical engineers recently identified the two main factors for determining the optimal catalyst for turning atmospheric CO2 into liquid fuel. The results will streamline the search for an inexpensive yet highly effective new catalyst.
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great, and kill all plant life
The_observer said:
great, and kill all plant life
very scientific statement observer
The process of turning CO2 and water into fuel is endothermic.
Doing this won’t produce power. It will consume power. Calling this a “power plant” is ridiculous.
They are talking about catalysts: catalysts increase the rate of reaction but won’t change the thermodynamics of the reaction. An improved catalyst can lower overall costs but it will still take the same amount of energy to turn a given amount of CO2 into fuel.
What a bullshit article.
CrazyNeutrino said:
The_observer said:great, and kill all plant life
very scientific statement observer
so crazy, you believe that if co2 could actually be removed from the atmosphere tu use as a fuel, ultimately lowering atmospheric levels, that it wouldn’t have any effect on plant life?
watch the doco I have linked in my latest effort to introduce some science into this political forum & get back to me.
The_observer said:
CrazyNeutrino said:
The_observer said:great, and kill all plant life
very scientific statement observer
so crazy, you believe that if co2 could actually be removed from the atmosphere tu use as a fuel, ultimately lowering atmospheric levels, that it wouldn’t have any effect on plant life?
watch the doco I have linked in my latest effort to introduce some science into this political forum & get back to me.
the_observer: if all CO2 was removed from the atmosphere then yes it would be disastrous for plant life.
On the other hand, you could significantly lower it without harm. Currently atmospheric CO2 stands at 402 ppm, up from about 280 ppm three hundred years ago. Three hundred years ago there was abundant plant life on earth so you could safely suck down 122 ppm without worrying about eliminating plant life.
Moreover (and this is a terrible article so I am making assumptions about their intent) I believe the idea is to use the fuel produced by this process to power vehicles and machines: this will return the CO2 to the atmosphere so the net CO2 change from the total cycle will be nil.
dv said:
The_observer said:
CrazyNeutrino said:very scientific statement observer
so crazy, you believe that if co2 could actually be removed from the atmosphere tu use as a fuel, ultimately lowering atmospheric levels, that it wouldn’t have any effect on plant life?
watch the doco I have linked in my latest effort to introduce some science into this political forum & get back to me.
the_observer: if all CO2 was removed from the atmosphere then yes it would be disastrous for plant life.
On the other hand, you could significantly lower it without harm. Currently atmospheric CO2 stands at 402 ppm, up from about 280 ppm three hundred years ago. Three hundred years ago there was abundant plant life on earth so you could safely suck down 122 ppm without worrying about eliminating plant life.
Moreover (and this is a terrible article so I am making assumptions about their intent) I believe the idea is to use the fuel produced by this process to power vehicles and machines: this will return the CO2 to the atmosphere so the net CO2 change from the total cycle will be nil.
thanks for you response dv
co2 at 150 ppm becomes critical for plant life.
Plants like it much higher – crops and forrests.
We are putting back some of the co2 removed from the atmosphere at a time when it was far higher.
Unfortunately, much co2 has been locked up in calcium carbonate rock, this is why co2 has, over geologically time, been trending down, which will never be released.
As I stated to crazy, if it were possible to remove co2 from the atmosphere & convert it to fuel we would be in big trouble, at least if it were also possible to do relatively cheaply
CrazyNeutrino said:
Plant-inspired power plantsA team of chemical engineers recently identified the two main factors for determining the optimal catalyst for turning atmospheric CO2 into liquid fuel. The results will streamline the search for an inexpensive yet highly effective new catalyst.
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> But these, and most, reactive catalysts already identified are too expensive to mass-produce
Shouldn’t be. There’s been a search for plant-inspired low-temperature CO2 conversion for many years now. I don’t understand why it’s taken so long.