Date: 15/12/2015 13:33:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814000
Subject: Ceres

Two separate items. Dawn is now in really close orbit about Ceres, and a scientific publication about Ceres has finally appeared.

The scientific publication appears in nature magazine. The bright spots are of Epsom salt, magnesium sulphate hexahydrate, with some ice. Ammonia has been found on the surface. And all the linear features (scarps and troughs) radiate half way around the dwarf planet from the largest crater.

http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nature15754

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Date: 15/12/2015 13:38:32
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814004
Subject: re: Ceres

mollwollfumble said:


Two separate items. Dawn is now in really close orbit about Ceres, and a scientific publication about Ceres has finally appeared.

The scientific publication appears in nature magazine. The bright spots are of Epsom salt, magnesium sulphate hexahydrate, with some ice. Ammonia has been found on the surface. And all the linear features (scarps and troughs) radiate half way around the dwarf planet from the largest crater.

http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nature15754


Dang, wouldn’t let me view the full article this time. For an overview see
http://www.nature.com/news/mysterious-bright-spots-on-ceres-are-probably-salt-1.18980

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Date: 15/12/2015 13:41:15
From: furious
ID: 814005
Subject: re: Ceres

You could always start one thread on Ceres then book mark it and put all your updates in the one place…

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Date: 15/12/2015 13:45:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 814006
Subject: re: Ceres

>The bright spots are of Epsom salt

That’s a coincidence, because there’s an old English salt brand called Cerebos.

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Date: 15/12/2015 14:32:48
From: Cymek
ID: 814034
Subject: re: Ceres

Bubblecar said:


>The bright spots are of Epsom salt

That’s a coincidence, because there’s an old English salt brand called Cerebos.


The ancients knew my friend

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Date: 15/12/2015 14:36:00
From: furious
ID: 814038
Subject: re: Ceres

Your friend must be pretty old…

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Date: 15/12/2015 16:55:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814089
Subject: re: Ceres

furious said:


You could always start one thread on Ceres then book mark it and put all your updates in the one place…

On all three computers? This thread was started from Android, and I haven’t yet figured out how to use Android properly. If you can’t get onto the full article from Nature, try the full address:
http://www.nature.com/articles/nature15754.epdf

Highlights:
Great “enhanced colour map of Ceres” as opposed to false colour.
Spectra from the bright spot in Occator and from another bright spot location.
The bright spot has an age of just 78 million years. (That’s in the same rough ballpark as my estimate)
Occator is 4 km deep and 90.5 km wide.
The largest bright spot is a pit 500 m deep and 10 km wide.
The most detailed image of the bright spot(s) is Extended data Figure 2.
For the haze over the crater see Extended data Figure 7.

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Date: 15/12/2015 16:58:49
From: dv
ID: 814091
Subject: re: Ceres

I sympathise with mollwollfumble on this. On most fora, posting to a thread “bumps” it, alerting others that new information has been applied.

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Date: 15/12/2015 17:05:06
From: Cymek
ID: 814097
Subject: re: Ceres

They had a decent documentary on the other week about the DAWN probe and the effort involved

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Date: 16/12/2015 11:36:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814585
Subject: re: Ceres

Cymek said:


They had a decent documentary on the other week about the DAWN probe and the effort involved

I missed it. On SBS? I saw a decent documentary on New Horizons on SBS a week or so ago.

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Date: 16/12/2015 11:39:47
From: Cymek
ID: 814588
Subject: re: Ceres

mollwollfumble said:


Cymek said:

They had a decent documentary on the other week about the DAWN probe and the effort involved

I missed it. On SBS? I saw a decent documentary on New Horizons on SBS a week or so ago.

Yeah that’s the one, not sure why I thought it was the DAWN probe, my mistake.

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Date: 16/12/2015 11:40:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814589
Subject: re: Ceres

mollwollfumble said:


Cymek said:

They had a decent documentary on the other week about the DAWN probe and the effort involved

I missed it. On SBS? I saw a decent documentary on New Horizons on SBS a week or so ago.

Here’s the on on New Horizons, called “Chasing Pluto” and available on the web for 5 more days.
http://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/search/new%20horizons

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Date: 16/12/2015 16:44:41
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 814723
Subject: re: Ceres

December 14, 2015 -Dawn Preparing for New Observations

Dawn thrust with its ion engine on Dec. 11-13 to fine tune its orbit.

385 kilometers up. All the images you’ve seen so far are from more than two months of intensive observations of Ceres from an altitude of 1,470 kilometers and more.

The choice of orbital height works as follows: “Ceres’s bumpy gravity field does not allow perfectly smooth, regular orbits at low altitude. Moreover, the variations in the strength of the gravitational attraction transform the orbits. As the changing forces reshape the orbit, the ellipse gets more exaggerated, with the low points going lower and the high points going higher. The differences within one revolution grow. Thanks to the ingenious design of the orbital trajectory however, those same forces then will gradually attenuate the profile, causing it to become more round again. This pattern repeats. It is almost as if the orbit breathes slowly, its envelope expanding and contracting.”

When it finished fine tuning its orbit, it pointed its gamma ray and neutron detector (GRaND) at Ceres. GRaND measures the energies and numbers of these two components of nuclear radiation, from which scientists can determine the abundances of some elements on the dwarf planet, including the abundance of major rock-forming elements (O, Mg, Al, Si, Ca, Ti, and Fe), trace elements (Gd and Sm), long-lived radioactive elements (K, Th, and U), and light elements such as H, C, and N.

Question. How? Answer:

There are four mechanisms involved. Cosmic rays hitting the surface produce fast neutrons. These are slowed by some elements, which allow measurements of amounts of epithermal and thermal neutrons allowing measurements of hydrogen, carbon, samarium and gadolinium. The mechanism of inelastic scattering and the mechanism of thermal neutron capture followed by gamma ray emission allows measurement of elements H, O, Mg, Al, Si, Cl, Ca, Ti, Fe. And natural radioactivity allows measurements of K, Th, U.

Some of the gamma rays and neutrons emitted by Vesta and Ceres are produced by radioactive elements and others are created by the bombardment of the surface material by cosmic rays. As they emanate from the surface and travel into space, some will be intercepted by Dawn’s gamma ray and neutron detector (GRaND) which, despite its name, is very humble. (For the sake of having an interesting appellation, it’s fortunate that GRaND detects gamma rays and neutrons and not neutrons and gamma rays.) The gamma rays and neutrons reveal many of the important atomic constituents to a depth of one meter (three feet) or so on Vesta and Ceres, thereby adding to the detailed story Dawn will tell. As we know from the first log, Ceres may be rich in water. If it is, the signature of water may be contained in GRaND’s data.

Navigators are making precise measurements of the adjusted orbit to verify that it meets the needs for the intensive observation campaign that will begin on Dec. 18. In the meantime, the spacecraft will collect more radiation measurements as well as conduct some bonus photography and infrared spectroscopy on Dec. 16-17.

Later today (Dec 14) mission controllers will power on two of Dawn’s reaction wheels. (Two others failed in 2010 and 2012.) Engineers cannot confidently predict how long the two units will operate, but as long as they do, they will reduce the expenditure of hydrazine propellant, extending the spacecraft’s lifetime in this final phase of the mission. When either one fails, Dawn will return to using only hydrazine to control its orientation

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Date: 19/12/2015 09:43:08
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 816513
Subject: re: Ceres

https://mobile.twitter.com/maximaxoo/status/675771715167920128/video/1

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