Date: 29/12/2015 20:09:49
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 821640
Subject: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

A very interesting programme that tells the story of how the southern hemisphere was wher song birds evolved.
Also and interesting story of hoe bellbirds contribute to dieback in trees.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4194557.htm

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Date: 29/12/2015 23:08:53
From: roughbarked
ID: 821678
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Peak Warming Man said:


A very interesting programme that tells the story of how the southern hemisphere was wher song birds evolved.
Also and interesting story of hoe bellbirds contribute to dieback in trees.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4194557.htm

You just found this?

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Date: 29/12/2015 23:27:40
From: AwesomeO
ID: 821698
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

A very interesting programme that tells the story of how the southern hemisphere was wher song birds evolved.
Also and interesting story of hoe bellbirds contribute to dieback in trees.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4194557.htm

You just found this?

It is his learning for the day. Forgive him for not being as learned as you.

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Date: 29/12/2015 23:29:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 821701
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

Peak Warming Man said:

A very interesting programme that tells the story of how the southern hemisphere was wher song birds evolved.
Also and interesting story of hoe bellbirds contribute to dieback in trees.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4194557.htm

You just found this?

It is his learning for the day. Forgive him for not being as learned as you.

It is OK. I have no problem with when people learn or how, just as long as they learn.

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Date: 29/12/2015 23:33:29
From: AwesomeO
ID: 821704
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

You just found this?

It is his learning for the day. Forgive him for not being as learned as you.

It is OK. I have no problem with when people learn or how, just as long as they learn.

Triffic. He will be gratified by your benevolence.

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Date: 29/12/2015 23:34:50
From: jjjust moi
ID: 821705
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

It is his learning for the day. Forgive him for not being as learned as you.

It is OK. I have no problem with when people learn or how, just as long as they learn.

Triffic. He will be gratified by your benevolence.


As are we all, sitting at the foot of the master.

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Date: 30/12/2015 05:53:51
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821748
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Sings,
I want a hitty pottymouse for chrissmiss, only a hitty possymouse will do,
no crockadiles or linacross a mussamusses, I only want hippopotty mussamussamisses, and hippopotamussamissus like me too.

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Date: 30/12/2015 06:12:00
From: dv
ID: 821750
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

“ linacross a mussamusses”

?

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Date: 30/12/2015 06:14:54
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821751
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Thems the words, an I’m not the author, whaleoil.

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Date: 30/12/2015 09:51:29
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 821801
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


Peak Warming Man said:

A very interesting programme that tells the story of how the southern hemisphere was where song birds evolved.
Also and interesting story of hoe bellbirds contribute to dieback in trees.

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4194557.htm

You just found this?

Yes, I just found this. Is it true?
From current distributions of birds I would certainly guess that songbirds (passerines = sparrow-like birds) evolved in the northern hemisphere.

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Date: 30/12/2015 10:44:41
From: Ian
ID: 821821
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Australian birds smartest and oldest in the world

Australia, being home to some of the oldest birds on the planet, has played a significant role in the history of the bird according to Professor Kaplan.

“Birds, like the Australian cockatoo, have at least a 90-million-year history,” she said.

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

“Birds actually evolved in Australia,” Professor Kaplan said.

Smarter Australian Birds

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Date: 30/12/2015 10:50:09
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821822
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Ian said:


Australian birds smartest and oldest in the world

Australia, being home to some of the oldest birds on the planet, has played a significant role in the history of the bird according to Professor Kaplan.

“Birds, like the Australian cockatoo, have at least a 90-million-year history,” she said.

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

“Birds actually evolved in Australia,” Professor Kaplan said.

Smarter Australian Birds

Where did the poetry birds evolve?

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Date: 30/12/2015 10:54:44
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821824
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Ian said:


Australian birds smartest and oldest in the world

Australia, being home to some of the oldest birds on the planet, has played a significant role in the history of the bird according to Professor Kaplan.

“Birds, like the Australian cockatoo, have at least a 90-million-year history,” she said.

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

“Birds actually evolved in Australia,” Professor Kaplan said.

Smarter Australian Birds

Magpie sings, “Good old Collingwood forever, they know how to play the game >>>>

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Date: 30/12/2015 10:57:42
From: Ian
ID: 821825
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

>Where did the poetry birds evolve?

I heard Kaplan interviewed.. said lots of interesting things…

Australian Magpies are the supreme mimicks and songsters.

Birds also have rythym.

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Date: 30/12/2015 11:00:11
From: Bubblecar
ID: 821826
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Ian said:


>Where did the poetry birds evolve?

I heard Kaplan interviewed.. said lots of interesting things…

Australian Magpies are the supreme mimicks and songsters.

Birds also have rythym.

One of my neighbour’s neglected dogs was frequently crying, and one day I could hear it crying somewhere high up in the biggest elm on my property. It was a magpie doing an unfortunately perfect imitation.

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Date: 30/12/2015 11:02:15
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821827
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Bubblecar said:


Ian said:

>Where did the poetry birds evolve?

I heard Kaplan interviewed.. said lots of interesting things…

Australian Magpies are the supreme mimicks and songsters.

Birds also have rythym.

One of my neighbour’s neglected dogs was frequently crying, and one day I could hear it crying somewhere high up in the biggest elm on my property. It was a magpie doing an unfortunately perfect imitation.

That is sad.
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Date: 30/12/2015 11:06:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 821828
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

bob(from black rock) said:


That is sad.

I don’t hear it crying any more. I don’t know if that’s because it’s dead, left home, or just cheered up.

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Date: 30/12/2015 11:09:04
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 821830
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Bubblecar said:


bob(from black rock) said:

That is sad.

I don’t hear it crying any more. I don’t know if that’s because it’s dead, left home, or just cheered up.

Or no longer a Collingwood supporter>

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Date: 30/12/2015 11:33:38
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 821845
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

Ian said:


She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

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Date: 30/12/2015 12:31:01
From: PermeateFree
ID: 821855
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

mollwollfumble said:


Ian said:

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

Then of course Australia would have been part of Antartica.

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Date: 30/12/2015 13:59:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 821866
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

jjjust moi said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

It is OK. I have no problem with when people learn or how, just as long as they learn.

Triffic. He will be gratified by your benevolence.


As are we all, sitting at the foot of the master.

Some people are content to spend their lives attempting to put others into a place reserved for ridicule. Everything they do stems from this attempt at one-upmanship. It fails, it really does.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:02:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 821867
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

mollwollfumble said:


Ian said:

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

As you said. Sense is being made.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:04:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 821868
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:


Ian said:

She said there may have been many bird species on the planet prior to the mass extinction 65 million years ago, but the only birds to survive after that were in east Gondwanaland, now known as Australia.

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

Then of course Australia would have been part of Antartica.

Actually they were both part of Gondwana.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:14:19
From: jjjust moi
ID: 821870
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

Then of course Australia would have been part of Antartica.

Actually they were both part of Gondwana.


Gondwana had broken up at the time of the 65mya extinction.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:16:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 821871
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

jjjust moi said:


roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

Then of course Australia would have been part of Antartica.

Actually they were both part of Gondwana.


Gondwana had broken up at the time of the 65mya extinction.

So why then was the reference to east Gondwana?

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:24:56
From: jjjust moi
ID: 821872
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

Actually they were both part of Gondwana.


Gondwana had broken up at the time of the 65mya extinction.

So why then was the reference to east Gondwana?


What else would you call it? It had broken into West and East portions.

We now have various names for those parts Sth America, India, Australia etc. to name just some.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:33:56
From: roughbarked
ID: 821875
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

jjjust moi said:


roughbarked said:

jjjust moi said:

Gondwana had broken up at the time of the 65mya extinction.

So why then was the reference to east Gondwana?


What else would you call it? It had broken into West and East portions.

We now have various names for those parts Sth America, India, Australia etc. to name just some.

Fair enough. I had no idea what the broken pieces were named.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:45:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 821878
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

So why then was the reference to east Gondwana?


What else would you call it? It had broken into West and East portions.

We now have various names for those parts Sth America, India, Australia etc. to name just some.

Fair enough. I had no idea what the broken pieces were named.


Actually, unless someone wants to correct WIKI;
Gondwana is believed to have sutured between about 570 and 510 Mya, thus joining East Gondwana to West Gondwana.

The section abut the breakup mentions nothing about east and west parts except that Australia began to break off from Antarctica, 80 Mya and that Australia and Papua NG separated 55 Mya.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:49:06
From: JudgeMental
ID: 821879
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

https://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es0806/es0806page01.cfm?chapter_no=visualization

animation which you can click through showing gondwana from 150m years ago to present.

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Date: 30/12/2015 14:55:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 821882
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

JudgeMental said:


https://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es0806/es0806page01.cfm?chapter_no=visualization

animation which you can click through showing gondwana from 150m years ago to present.

Ta. :)

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Date: 30/12/2015 18:33:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 822025
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

That actually may make sense. The area of the planet most greatly devastated by the asteroid impact would have been central America, and 65 million years ago the two land regions furthest away from the site of devastation would have been Thailand/Indonesia and northern Australia/New Guinea.

Then of course Australia would have been part of Antartica.

Actually they were both part of Gondwana.

Gondwana did not exist 66 million years ago.

The great supercontinent was still under strain, however. Between about 170 million and 180 million years ago, Gondwana began its own split, with Africa and South America breaking apart from the other half of Gondwana. About 140 million years ago, South America and Africa split, opening up the South Atlantic Ocean between them. Meanwhile, on the eastern half of the once-supercontinent, Madagascar made a break from India and both moved away from Australia and Antarctica.

Australia and Antarctica clung together longer; in fact, Antarctica and Australia didn’t make their final split until about 45 million years ago. At that point, Antarctica started to freeze over as Earth’s climate cooled, while Australia drifted northward.

http://www.livescience.com/37285-gondwana.html

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Date: 30/12/2015 18:38:21
From: PermeateFree
ID: 822031
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

roughbarked said:


roughbarked said:

jjjust moi said:

What else would you call it? It had broken into West and East portions.

We now have various names for those parts Sth America, India, Australia etc. to name just some.

Fair enough. I had no idea what the broken pieces were named.


Actually, unless someone wants to correct WIKI;
Gondwana is believed to have sutured between about 570 and 510 Mya, thus joining East Gondwana to West Gondwana.

The section abut the breakup mentions nothing about east and west parts except that Australia began to break off from Antarctica, 80 Mya and that Australia and Papua NG separated 55 Mya.

Gondwana did not exist 500 million years ago.

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Date: 31/12/2015 22:38:47
From: headsie
ID: 822972
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

There is a great book by Tim Low “Where Songbirds Began”. if interested it will answer most of your questions.

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Date: 31/12/2015 22:41:21
From: furious
ID: 822973
Subject: re: SONG BIRDS EVOLVED IN AUSTRALIA

What happens when it isn’t interested? Tells you to p!$$ off with your questions?

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