Date: 4/01/2016 08:09:02
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 824745
Subject: Entanglement gravity?

If there is any phenomenon I might link to gravitation it would be entanglement. If gravitation is the natural limit of the entanglement of particles how would this be measured?

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Date: 4/01/2016 09:38:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 824798
Subject: re: Entanglement gravity?

Postpocelipse said:


If there is any phenomenon I might link to gravitation it would be entanglement. If gravitation is the natural limit of the entanglement of particles how would this be measured?

I’m getting too old to answer questions like this, or perhaps not.

A key test of this hypothesis would be the speed of gravity. Entanglement transfers information at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Gravity according to GR propagates at the speed of light. Has this ever been tested directly? The speed of gravity has been measured indirectly. Wikipedia puts it this way:

“The speed of gravity (more correctly, the speed of gravitational waves) can be calculated from observations of the orbital decay rate of binary pulsars PSR 1913+16 (the Hulse–Taylor binary system noted above) and PSR B1534+12. The orbits of these binary pulsars are decaying due to loss of energy in the form of gravitational radiation. The rate of this energy loss (“gravitational damping”) can be measured, and since it depends on the speed of gravity, comparing the measured values to theory shows that the speed of gravity is equal to the speed of light to within 1%. However, according to PPN formalism setting, measuring the speed of gravity by comparing theoretical results with experimental results will depend on the theory; use of a theory other than that of general relativity could in principle show a different speed, although the existence of gravitational damping at all implies that the speed cannot be infinite.”

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Date: 4/01/2016 12:11:01
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 824814
Subject: re: Entanglement gravity?

mollwollfumble said:


I’m getting too old to answer questions like this, or perhaps not.

A key test of this hypothesis would be the speed of gravity. Entanglement transfers information at speeds exceeding the speed of light. Gravity according to GR propagates at the speed of light. Has this ever been tested directly? The speed of gravity has been measured indirectly. Wikipedia puts it this way:

“The speed of gravity (more correctly, the speed of gravitational waves) can be calculated from observations of the orbital decay rate of binary pulsars PSR 1913+16 (the Hulse–Taylor binary system noted above) and PSR B1534+12. The orbits of these binary pulsars are decaying due to loss of energy in the form of gravitational radiation. The rate of this energy loss (“gravitational damping”) can be measured, and since it depends on the speed of gravity, comparing the measured values to theory shows that the speed of gravity is equal to the speed of light to within 1%. However, according to PPN formalism setting, measuring the speed of gravity by comparing theoretical results with experimental results will depend on the theory; use of a theory other than that of general relativity could in principle show a different speed, although the existence of gravitational damping at all implies that the speed cannot be infinite.”

The speed of information transfer within an artificial entanglement scenario is greater than c. For normal particles gravitation might be as close to complete entanglement as they can naturally get. I would assume it is only a partial entanglement as it is obvious what happens to one particle within a mass has only limited effect on the rest.

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Date: 4/01/2016 15:22:11
From: wookiemeister
ID: 824867
Subject: re: Entanglement gravity?

in the tesseract cooper is able to send messages to his daughter so a series of massive spacestations can be built

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Date: 4/01/2016 17:13:51
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 824902
Subject: re: Entanglement gravity?

Postpocelipse said:

The speed of information transfer within an artificial entanglement scenario is greater than c. For normal particles gravitation might be as close to complete entanglement as they can naturally get. I would assume it is only a partial entanglement as it is obvious what happens to one particle within a mass has only limited effect on the rest.

I think I may have a proposition to consider here. What I would propose is that the less mass bound a particle becomes the greater the range it’s strong and weak force fields extend. The strong/weak fields of a particle are a component of the orbit it is bound to.

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