Date: 10/01/2016 15:14:27
From: dv
ID: 828997
Subject: Critically endangered cetaceans

The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history. It was hunted intensely by humans up til the 1980s, and pollution, net accidents, bycatch and vessel injury may have taken care of the rest. The last confirmed sighting was in 2004. Since then there have been two extensive searches which did not find any baiji. Though it is possible that a small number of isolated baiji exist, the numbers would be so low that the extinction is just a matter of time.

The loss and subsequent criticism appear to have galvanised the Chinese authorities into action with regard to their remaining critically endangered cetacean, the Yangtze finless porpoise. Unlike the baiji, the Yangtze finless porpoise is restricted to the upper reaches of the Yangtze. The reduction in numbers appears to have accelerated over the last 20 years as development and pollution have increased in western China. Estimates of the number remaining in the Yangtze vary from 500 to 1000. The species has been given the status of National First Grade Key Protected Wild Animal: this mandates regular surveying of the population and the condition of its habitat, and ensures strong penalties for those engaging in activities that harm the animal. There are also a small number of Yangtze finless porpoise in captivity, and perhaps 40 in the Tian-ezhou oxbow lake.

The other critically endangered cetacean is the vaquita, aka the Gulf of California porpoise. There are around 100 of these remaining. These exist solely on the Mexican coast in the northern reaches of the Gulf of California. They have not been hunted but have been greatly affected by gillnet traps. There is some concern that the low remaining numbers have led to inbreeding and general genetic decline, which may worsen the chances of recovery.

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Date: 10/01/2016 15:27:07
From: PermeateFree
ID: 828999
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

dv said:


The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history. It was hunted intensely by humans up til the 1980s, and pollution, net accidents, bycatch and vessel injury may have taken care of the rest. The last confirmed sighting was in 2004. Since then there have been two extensive searches which did not find any baiji. Though it is possible that a small number of isolated baiji exist, the numbers would be so low that the extinction is just a matter of time.

The loss and subsequent criticism appear to have galvanised the Chinese authorities into action with regard to their remaining critically endangered cetacean, the Yangtze finless porpoise. Unlike the baiji, the Yangtze finless porpoise is restricted to the upper reaches of the Yangtze. The reduction in numbers appears to have accelerated over the last 20 years as development and pollution have increased in western China. Estimates of the number remaining in the Yangtze vary from 500 to 1000. The species has been given the status of National First Grade Key Protected Wild Animal: this mandates regular surveying of the population and the condition of its habitat, and ensures strong penalties for those engaging in activities that harm the animal. There are also a small number of Yangtze finless porpoise in captivity, and perhaps 40 in the Tian-ezhou oxbow lake.

The other critically endangered cetacean is the vaquita, aka the Gulf of California porpoise. There are around 100 of these remaining. These exist solely on the Mexican coast in the northern reaches of the Gulf of California. They have not been hunted but have been greatly affected by gillnet traps. There is some concern that the low remaining numbers have led to inbreeding and general genetic decline, which may worsen the chances of recovery.

Regretfully this decline is replicated with most mammal groupings. It is due to many causes, but at its root it is the ridiculously high human population that is driving it. So as our population will continue to increase for the foreseeable future, many species will likely go extinct.

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Date: 10/01/2016 15:39:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 829000
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

most life on earth will be wiped out in another few centuries

humans destroy their environment

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Date: 10/01/2016 15:42:55
From: dv
ID: 829001
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

I should also mention the popoto, a small dolphin that only exists off North Island, NZ. There are only approximately 50 remaining.

However, the popoto is regarded as a subspecies of Hector’s dolphin.

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Date: 10/01/2016 15:46:36
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 829002
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

I’m rare too, only one of me left.

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Date: 10/01/2016 15:50:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829003
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

CrazyNeutrino said:


I’m rare too, only one of me left.

Trouble is, you are just one of over 7 billion from the same species. However you are unique within that company.

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Date: 10/01/2016 16:29:40
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 829012
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

> The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history

It’s the last cetacean extinction in recorded history, for absolute certain. So, given that humans have only driven to extinction just one of the many species and, given that two new cetacean species have recently been discovered in Australia, cetacean species are safe, wouldn’t you say. Populations of many species are increasing worldwide.

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Date: 10/01/2016 16:34:08
From: buffy
ID: 829014
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

I’d prefer some yellow in this lot….I think it’s going to have evaporated away before it actually gets here….

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR142.loop.shtml#skip

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Date: 10/01/2016 16:34:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829015
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

mollwollfumble said:


> The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history

It’s the last cetacean extinction in recorded history, for absolute certain. So, given that humans have only driven to extinction just one of the many species and, given that two new cetacean species have recently been discovered in Australia, cetacean species are safe, wouldn’t you say. Populations of many species are increasing worldwide.

Would you like to provide references to your assertions that ‘Populations of many species are increasing worldwide?’

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Date: 10/01/2016 16:39:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829018
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

> The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history

It’s the last cetacean extinction in recorded history, for absolute certain. So, given that humans have only driven to extinction just one of the many species and, given that two new cetacean species have recently been discovered in Australia, cetacean species are safe, wouldn’t you say. Populations of many species are increasing worldwide.

Would you like to provide references to your assertions that ‘Populations of many species are increasing worldwide?’

Forget my request if you are only referring to cetacean spp., which only applies to sea going species and that only due to a reduction of hunting them. However other mammals are not so fortunate and most are on a spiral decline.

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Date: 10/01/2016 17:01:40
From: Teleost
ID: 829022
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

mollwollfumble said:


> The extinction of the baiji, also called the Yangtze river dolphin, a decade ago was probably the first cetacean extinction in recorded history

It’s the last cetacean extinction in recorded history, for absolute certain. So, given that humans have only driven to extinction just one of the many species and, given that two new cetacean species have recently been discovered in Australia, cetacean species are safe, wouldn’t you say. Populations of many species are increasing worldwide.

Are you serious Moll? One confirmed extinction at this point in time and the discovery of some rare species along with varying levels of population recovery of marine cetaceans does not make for cetaceans being safe. 15 out of 87 species are listed between vulnerable and critically endangered and 45 species are unable to be assessed due to be data deficiencies.

http://www.iucn-csg.org/index.php/status-of-the-worlds-cetaceans/

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:21:16
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 829074
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

> Are you serious Moll?

No. Just playing devil’s advocate. The beluga was reported as “technically extinct” some 20 or so years ago on a TV program, but are now thriving.

> Forget my request if you are only referring to cetacean spp., which only applies to sea going species and that only due to a reduction of hunting them.

That is exactly what I am referring to.

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Date: 10/01/2016 20:17:00
From: dv
ID: 829102
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

mollwollfumble said:

No. Just playing devil’s advocate. The beluga was reported as “technically extinct” some 20 or so years ago on a TV program, but are now thriving.

Provide a reference to support your assertion that the beluga whale was ever considered technically extinct.

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Date: 11/01/2016 23:37:34
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 829746
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

dv said:


mollwollfumble said:

No. Just playing devil’s advocate. The beluga was reported as “technically extinct” some 20 or so years ago on a TV program, but are now thriving.

Provide a reference to support your assertion that the beluga whale was ever considered technically extinct.

Provide a chart of beluga numbers as a function of time to help me pin down when the documentary was.

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Date: 11/01/2016 23:48:57
From: dv
ID: 829764
Subject: re: Critically endangered cetaceans

mollwollfumble said:


dv said:

mollwollfumble said:

No. Just playing devil’s advocate. The beluga was reported as “technically extinct” some 20 or so years ago on a TV program, but are now thriving.

Provide a reference to support your assertion that the beluga whale was ever considered technically extinct.

Provide a chart of beluga numbers as a function of time to help me pin down when the documentary was.

eh?

You’re the one making the claim.

To the best of my knowledge, the beluga has never even been considered endangered.

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