Date: 10/01/2016 17:40:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829036
Subject: More Esperance Fires

There is quite a large fire burning to the west of Esperance. It started several days ago and has caused people to leave their homes, although fortunately not many people live there. The photo below is of it yesterday with the fire over 50 km away from me, so you can imagine what it must be like there.

The smoke drifted over my way, although being so high you could not smell it, nevertheless it blocked out the sun to give the place a dark pinky/grey colour, the sort you get just before a storm. Overnight the wind dropped and by morning the smoke had lowered itself to spread as a grey mist over the landscape. On a black outdoor mat, the white ash could be clearly seen and the fire smell was more evident.

Last night when the sun had gone down, the fierceness of the fire could be seen by a large red glow, and as I said that was over 50 km away.

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Date: 10/01/2016 18:44:53
From: buffy
ID: 829058
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

There isn’t going to be much left to burn around you soon. I recall last year (or the year before…memory is a bit dodgy on time) there was an early fire to the West of Casterton, close but not reaching the edge of town. My thought, once it was out, was that we didn’t need to worry about a fire from that side of town for the rest of the season. I have odd trains of thought sometimes.

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:12:54
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 829070
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Could you design a vehicle that could beat out grass fires as it runs over the flame front rather than carrying water needed to douse them?

The vehicle would have to have an engine that can operate on reduced atmospheric oxygen and have a heat-proof cabin with clean air supply, but could be otherwise fairly normal.

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:19:19
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829072
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

buffy said:

There isn’t going to be much left to burn around you soon. I recall last year (or the year before…memory is a bit dodgy on time) there was an early fire to the West of Casterton, close but not reaching the edge of town. My thought, once it was out, was that we didn’t need to worry about a fire from that side of town for the rest of the season. I have odd trains of thought sometimes.

True, one hell of a lot of country burnt. This unfortunately is the consequences of large areas of bush that are never burnt, resulting in heavy fuel buildups, which when lit devastate these large areas. There is a very rare annual wildflower that grew on this property and close neighbouring areas. When we had a fire on the property two years ago it was in November when this plant is making its appearance. I counted nine plants the following year and this year none.

Last November we had the fires burn all the other known areas in which it grew and again in November, which gives me concern for this plants future. A burn at most other times would not present a problem, but November is critical for this species. Couple this with large extensive hot burns and you lose not only the fauna, but likely flora species too.

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:21:41
From: buffy
ID: 829075
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


buffy said:

There isn’t going to be much left to burn around you soon. I recall last year (or the year before…memory is a bit dodgy on time) there was an early fire to the West of Casterton, close but not reaching the edge of town. My thought, once it was out, was that we didn’t need to worry about a fire from that side of town for the rest of the season. I have odd trains of thought sometimes.

True, one hell of a lot of country burnt. This unfortunately is the consequences of large areas of bush that are never burnt, resulting in heavy fuel buildups, which when lit devastate these large areas. There is a very rare annual wildflower that grew on this property and close neighbouring areas. When we had a fire on the property two years ago it was in November when this plant is making its appearance. I counted nine plants the following year and this year none.

Last November we had the fires burn all the other known areas in which it grew and again in November, which gives me concern for this plants future. A burn at most other times would not present a problem, but November is critical for this species. Couple this with large extensive hot burns and you lose not only the fauna, but likely flora species too.

You can hope there is seed in the soil seedbank. I guess.

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:22:56
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829076
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

mollwollfumble said:


Could you design a vehicle that could beat out grass fires as it runs over the flame front rather than carrying water needed to douse them?

The vehicle would have to have an engine that can operate on reduced atmospheric oxygen and have a heat-proof cabin with clean air supply, but could be otherwise fairly normal.

Maybe in a cleared and levelled paddock, but most unlikely in a bush situation with many unseen obstacles, most unlikely. Plus in those conditions with a strong wind behind it, the fire would likely outrun the vehicle.

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Date: 10/01/2016 19:27:15
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829078
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

buffy said:


PermeateFree said:

buffy said:

There isn’t going to be much left to burn around you soon. I recall last year (or the year before…memory is a bit dodgy on time) there was an early fire to the West of Casterton, close but not reaching the edge of town. My thought, once it was out, was that we didn’t need to worry about a fire from that side of town for the rest of the season. I have odd trains of thought sometimes.

True, one hell of a lot of country burnt. This unfortunately is the consequences of large areas of bush that are never burnt, resulting in heavy fuel buildups, which when lit devastate these large areas. There is a very rare annual wildflower that grew on this property and close neighbouring areas. When we had a fire on the property two years ago it was in November when this plant is making its appearance. I counted nine plants the following year and this year none.

Last November we had the fires burn all the other known areas in which it grew and again in November, which gives me concern for this plants future. A burn at most other times would not present a problem, but November is critical for this species. Couple this with large extensive hot burns and you lose not only the fauna, but likely flora species too.

You can hope there is seed in the soil seedbank. I guess.

I hope, but with many annuals, their seed is often short-lived. It is an unusual plant and may have evolved in this area, so possibly relatively young and with the removal of the Aboriginal fire-stick management is now possibly in danger from these large hot fires.

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Date: 10/01/2016 20:30:17
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 829109
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

> One hell of a lot of country burnt.

Yes. The map of country burnt is shocking. Most of it is in the north of Australia. Areas of Australia burnt in just the past two years are shown in black and dark grey. From http://myfirewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/

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Date: 10/01/2016 20:33:59
From: party_pants
ID: 829111
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Wow, that map is rather amazing.

I gather for many of the fires up north and inland they just let them burn till they exhaust themselves or there is a change in the weather?

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Date: 10/01/2016 20:42:11
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829112
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

a lot of the up north ones are lightning strikes in grass. instead of the Wet and Dry seasons some call them the Green and Black seasons.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:00:27
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829115
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

mollwollfumble said:


> One hell of a lot of country burnt.

Yes. The map of country burnt is shocking. Most of it is in the north of Australia. Areas of Australia burnt in just the past two years are shown in black and dark grey. From http://myfirewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/

A lot of savanna grasslands up north, a great deal that is burnt on an annual or biannual basis. Besides lightning strikes there is a much larger Aborigine population there too that are burning off to ‘look after country.’ If the same amount of burning was in the southern states then you would lose most of your grain crops. However it does highlight the problem of fuel buildup in tree and shrub areas that result in large hot fires.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:10:53
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829117
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Besides lightning strikes there is a much larger Aborigine population there too that are burning off to ‘look after country

…………………….

You mean changing the ecology, wiping out the megafauna don’t you?

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:18:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829119
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

http://austhrutime.com/marsupial_megafauna_extinction.htm

http://australianmuseum.net.au/megafauna-extinction-theories-patterns-of-extinction

http://www.medicaldaily.com/climate-change-caused-australian-megafauna-extinction-not-aboriginal-humans-245595

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:20:31
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829120
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Outside the mainland of Afro-Eurasia, these megafaunal extinctions followed a highly distinctive landmass-by-landmass pattern that closely parallels the spread of humans into previously uninhabited regions of the world, and which shows no overall correlation with climatic history (which can be visualized with plots over recent geological time periods of climate markers such as marine oxygen isotopes or atmospheric carbon dioxide levels). …wiki

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:22:48
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829121
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:

Besides lightning strikes there is a much larger Aborigine population there too that are burning off to ‘look after country

…………………….

You mean changing the ecology, wiping out the megafauna don’t you?

Yes quite likely, but thousands of years ago in which time, their fire-stick management provided a more varied habitat, which has permitted greater diversity. However, it is not well known as to what affect large herbivores had on the vegetation at the time and they may have reduced the likelihood of fires, by eating the vegetation. I would imagine as these herbivores reduced in number, by things like the Ice Age and hunting, the fuel load built up and the need for burning became essential.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:23:23
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829122
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

The cause of the extinction is an active, contentious and factionalised field of research where politics and ideology often takes precedence over scientific evidence.

wiki.

:-)

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:26:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829123
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

mollwollfumble said:


> One hell of a lot of country burnt.

Yes. The map of country burnt is shocking. Most of it is in the north of Australia. Areas of Australia burnt in just the past two years are shown in black and dark grey. From http://myfirewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/

I don’t think the recent fires around Esperance are shown on that map, only the fires around Cape Arid that were much smaller, nor does it show the current fire west of Esperance. So very deceptive.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:28:12
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829124
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


mollwollfumble said:

> One hell of a lot of country burnt.

Yes. The map of country burnt is shocking. Most of it is in the north of Australia. Areas of Australia burnt in just the past two years are shown in black and dark grey. From http://myfirewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/


It shows the Grass Patch one, which happened at the same time.

I don’t think the recent fires around Esperance are shown on that map, only the fires around Cape Arid that were much smaller, nor does it show the current fire west of Esperance. So very deceptive.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:28:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829125
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

if you go to that link there is a 72hr map. different to the one shown which looks more “historic”

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:30:44
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829127
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


PermeateFree said:

mollwollfumble said:

> One hell of a lot of country burnt.

Yes. The map of country burnt is shocking. Most of it is in the north of Australia. Areas of Australia burnt in just the past two years are shown in black and dark grey. From http://myfirewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/


It shows the Grass Patch one, which happened at the same time.

I don’t think the recent fires around Esperance are shown on that map, only the fires around Cape Arid that were much smaller, nor does it show the current fire west of Esperance. So very deceptive.

No, that fire is much too far to the east and more in the Mt Ragged/Russell Range region.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:31:45
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829128
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


if you go to that link there is a 72hr map. different to the one shown which looks more “historic”

Yes that maybe correct, but I have doubts if the historic one is up to date.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:34:44
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829129
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


jjjust moi said:

PermeateFree said:

It shows the Grass Patch one, which happened at the same time.

I don’t think the recent fires around Esperance are shown on that map, only the fires around Cape Arid that were much smaller, nor does it show the current fire west of Esperance. So very deceptive.

No, that fire is much too far to the east and more in the Mt Ragged/Russell Range region.


Are you looking at tyhe same map as I am?

I know where Grass Patch/Salmon Gums are

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:36:03
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829130
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


ChrispenEvan said:

if you go to that link there is a 72hr map. different to the one shown which looks more “historic”

Yes that maybe correct, but I have doubts if the historic one is up to date.


Or maybe they don’t log pissy scrub fires?

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:38:31
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829131
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

the map in this thread is “burnt areas last year and two years ago”.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:38:38
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829132
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


PermeateFree said:

jjjust moi said:

No, that fire is much too far to the east and more in the Mt Ragged/Russell Range region.


Are you looking at tyhe same map as I am?

I know where Grass Patch/Salmon Gums are

Well you can see the highway heading north and Grass Patch and Salmon Gums are off that road and there are no fires shown for that region, nor the Stockyard Creek one, which was another large fire spreading from Esperance to Cape Le Grand.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:40:01
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829133
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


PermeateFree said:

ChrispenEvan said:

if you go to that link there is a 72hr map. different to the one shown which looks more “historic”

Yes that maybe correct, but I have doubts if the historic one is up to date.


Or maybe they don’t log pissy scrub fires?

Like to see you trying to control the fires that have been around here recently. Guess talk is easy.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:41:41
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829134
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


the map in this thread is “burnt areas last year and two years ago”.

Well the fires north of Esperance and the Stockyard Creek one (just east of Esperance), were last November, so should have been included.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:43:17
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829136
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


jjjust moi said:

PermeateFree said:

No, that fire is much too far to the east and more in the Mt Ragged/Russell Range region.


Are you looking at tyhe same map as I am?

I know where Grass Patch/Salmon Gums are

Well you can see the highway heading north and Grass Patch and Salmon Gums are off that road and there are no fires shown for that region, nor the Stockyard Creek one, which was another large fire spreading from Esperance to Cape Le Grand.


Well I guess that black blob northwest of thteTruslove nature reserve is shit on my glasses then?

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:43:48
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829138
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

i don’t run that website i’m just here informing you lot how to use it. got any complaints then send them an email.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:45:13
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829139
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


PermeateFree said:

jjjust moi said:

Are you looking at tyhe same map as I am?

I know where Grass Patch/Salmon Gums are

Well you can see the highway heading north and Grass Patch and Salmon Gums are off that road and there are no fires shown for that region, nor the Stockyard Creek one, which was another large fire spreading from Esperance to Cape Le Grand.


Well I guess that black blob northwest of thteTruslove nature reserve is shit on my glasses then?

Guess it is. You don’t have a clean hanky I presume.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:46:17
From: party_pants
ID: 829140
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

If you go to the website linked in Moll’s original post – you can zoom in in the map and get much more detail.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:49:12
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829141
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

party_pants said:


If you go to the website linked in Moll’s original post – you can zoom in in the map and get much more detail.

Yes those seem to be much better, just the large map is not up to date. If you don’t believe me, get a map of the district where it could not be clearer.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:50:05
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829142
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

you can zoom in in the map and get much more detail.

yes, it is quite interactive. i like how the black bits take a little while to catch up to the map.

:-)

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:50:52
From: party_pants
ID: 829143
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


party_pants said:

If you go to the website linked in Moll’s original post – you can zoom in in the map and get much more detail.

Yes those seem to be much better, just the large map is not up to date. If you don’t believe me, get a map of the district where it could not be clearer.

I believe you.

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Date: 10/01/2016 21:58:18
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829144
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


you can zoom in in the map and get much more detail.

yes, it is quite interactive. i like how the black bits take a little while to catch up to the map.

:-)

Those black bits have nothing to do with the Grass Patch and Salmon Gums fires, they are nowhere near these places, which makes this site out of date.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:40:34
From: wookiemeister
ID: 829149
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

more fires eh?

oh well

if only there was an efficient and effective way of fighting them

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:43:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 829150
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

wookiemeister said:


more fires eh?

oh well

if only there was an efficient and effective way of fighting them

You can’t fight fire.

You need to make the chance of it happening less.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:43:31
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 829151
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

wookiemeister said:


more fires eh?

oh well

if only there was an efficient and effective way of fighting them

Water?

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:44:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 829152
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:50:18
From: monkey skipper
ID: 829153
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Not realistic when you consider a lightning strike can start fires and removing all fuel is not ideal in that animals needs grasslands as well. Reducing over growth – yes and there can be sTOOpid people arsonists who make sure a fire starts.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:51:54
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829154
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Not realistic when you consider a lightning strike can start fires and removing all fuel is not ideal in that animals needs grasslands as well. Reducing over growth – yes and there can be sTOOpid people arsonists who make sure a fire starts.


It was rb making the statement.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:55:55
From: AwesomeO
ID: 829157
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:59:23
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 829160
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

You must have a very big bladder.

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Date: 10/01/2016 22:59:58
From: monkey skipper
ID: 829162
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

more fires eh?

oh well

if only there was an efficient and effective way of fighting them

You can’t fight fire.

You need to make the chance of it happening less.

You need both preventative measures not possible to eliminate completely and then provide capacity to manage fire outbreaks and fire catastrophes

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:15:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 829167
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Not realistic when you consider a lightning strike can start fires and removing all fuel is not ideal in that animals needs grasslands as well. Reducing over growth – yes and there can be sTOOpid people arsonists who make sure a fire starts.


Yes. Which is why i planted trees to slow down the grass growth.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:15:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 829168
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


monkey skipper said:

roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Not realistic when you consider a lightning strike can start fires and removing all fuel is not ideal in that animals needs grasslands as well. Reducing over growth – yes and there can be sTOOpid people arsonists who make sure a fire starts.


It was rb making the statement.

I haven’t seen you make a decent statement yet.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:16:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 829169
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:16:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 829170
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

bob(from black rock) said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

You must have a very big bladder.

I do piss a lot.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:17:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 829171
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

monkey skipper said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

more fires eh?

oh well

if only there was an efficient and effective way of fighting them

You can’t fight fire.

You need to make the chance of it happening less.

You need both preventative measures not possible to eliminate completely and then provide capacity to manage fire outbreaks and fire catastrophes

Yes.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:19:14
From: AwesomeO
ID: 829173
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Fire happened here every year until I moved here. Haven’t had a fire in the 38 years since.

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:24:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 829174
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Are you claiming credit for stopping bushfires in your area?

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.


Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:30:42
From: AwesomeO
ID: 829175
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.


Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:33:59
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829176
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.


Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.


Of course you did sweety and they were happy to follow the guru.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:37:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 829178
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.


Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.


As I said. You know where to shove it. You have no fucking idea.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:39:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 829179
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.


Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.


Of course you did sweety and they were happy to follow the guru.

The place is way greener than it ever was. People wanted to have it so, they only needed some inspiration. Which they’d clearly never get from you.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:41:19
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829180
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

see you have a few white ants roughie.

;-)

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:41:33
From: jjjust moi
ID: 829181
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.


Of course you did sweety and they were happy to follow the guru.

The place is way greener than it ever was. People wanted to have it so, they only needed some inspiration. Which they’d clearly never get from you.


Of course not. I’m no leader of the masses, who want to sit at the feet of the annointed.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:41:49
From: AwesomeO
ID: 829182
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.


As I said. You know where to shove it. You have no fucking idea.

I have an idea that you are full of piss and wind. A puffed up fantasist and bullshit artist.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:48:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 829183
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


see you have a few white ants roughie.

;-)

No such thing. Termites, yep.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:49:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 829184
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

jjjust moi said:


roughbarked said:

jjjust moi said:

Of course you did sweety and they were happy to follow the guru.

The place is way greener than it ever was. People wanted to have it so, they only needed some inspiration. Which they’d clearly never get from you.


Of course not. I’m no leader of the masses, who want to sit at the feet of the annointed.

Neither am I but I know when and how to do it.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:50:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829185
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

White-anting is an Australian term for the process of internal erosion of a foundation. It is often used in reference to groups such as political parties or organisations where information from group insiders is ‘leaked’ or used to undermine the goals of the group.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:50:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 829186
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

AwesomeO said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.


As I said. You know where to shove it. You have no fucking idea.

I have an idea that you are full of piss and wind. A puffed up fantasist and bullshit artist.

You don’t have anything.
You are only jealous of those who do.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:52:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 829187
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


White-anting is an Australian term for the process of internal erosion of a foundation. It is often used in reference to groups such as political parties or organisations where information from group insiders is ‘leaked’ or used to undermine the goals of the group.

I know the term.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:53:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 829188
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

and i know the correct name is termites.

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:56:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 829189
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


and i know the correct name is termites.

I knew you’d say that. ;)

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Date: 10/01/2016 23:58:26
From: party_pants
ID: 829190
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

ChrispenEvan said:


and i know the correct name is termites.

I would have been decimated if you had got something like that wrong.

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Date: 11/01/2016 02:28:17
From: The_observer
ID: 829212
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

No. I’m only claiming doing something to help others change the way they looked at it.

Looked at what? You say fires stopped when you moved there and seem to be hinting that it had something to do with you, albeit by helping others change the way they look at something .

As usual you are Delphic whilst trick cycling.

Go and shove it up your arse.

Deary me!

Postpocelipse, are you going to put up with this?

I thought you would have stepped in by now to stamp your authority & lecture rb on his rudness, & his outlandish claims
based on sub-standard observations?

I mean for gods sake man, we can’t have participants acting this way on your forum.

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Date: 11/01/2016 02:31:13
From: The_observer
ID: 829213
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


AwesomeO said:

roughbarked said:

Go and shove it up your arse.

The place was a rubbish dump.
a dustbowl and an instant fire hazard a few weeks after any rain.

I planted a lot of trees and did a lot of mowing. Slowly the others realised that they had a bit of bushland that required very little work to look after the bit behind their yard. People wanted to do it. They were happy to.

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.


As I said. You know where to shove it. You have no fucking idea.

Oh, for humanities sake Postpocelipse, make it stop.

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Date: 11/01/2016 02:34:13
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 829214
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

What on Earth does a disagreement between Roughy and AwesomeO have to do with Postpocelipse?

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Date: 11/01/2016 02:36:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 829215
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Witty Rejoinder said:


What on Earth does a disagreement between Roughy and AwesomeO have to do with Postpocelipse?

or t_o for that matter.

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Date: 11/01/2016 03:28:58
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829217
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

roughbarked said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

What on Earth does a disagreement between Roughy and AwesomeO have to do with Postpocelipse?

or t_o for that matter.

He’ll tell you I’ve appointed myself forum etiquette enforcer or something. There is a difference between a momentary irritation within a well established relationship and a perpetual vendetta from a stranger who thought he could walk into someone else’s shop and tell them what prices to put up and didn’t like it when he was told to right royally cram his labelmaker up his arse sideways with a jackhammer.

But I no complain………..

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Date: 11/01/2016 03:30:56
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829218
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

It was yesterday I last had a go at him. He doesn’t get over anything quickly. Or have any dignity………

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Date: 11/01/2016 03:32:38
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829219
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Postpocelipse said:


roughbarked said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

What on Earth does a disagreement between Roughy and AwesomeO have to do with Postpocelipse?

or t_o for that matter.

He’ll tell you I’ve appointed myself forum etiquette enforcer or something. There is a difference between a momentary irritation within a well established relationship and a perpetual vendetta from a stranger who thought he could walk into someone else’s shop and tell them what prices to put up and didn’t like it when he was told to right royally cram his labelmaker up his arse sideways with a jackhammer.

But I no complain………..


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Date: 11/01/2016 03:45:47
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829220
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

The_observer said:

Deary me!

Postpocelipse, are you going to put up with this?

I thought you would have stepped in by now to stamp your authority & lecture rb on his rudness, & his outlandish claims
based on sub-standard observations?

The only observations I remember t_o making are ‘such and such is a fuckwit’ or ‘climate change believers are alarmists’. Neither of which are observations and would be lucky to make the status of an opinion. An opinion really should include material relevant to the subject and some form of constructive comprehension.

Twatt!

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Date: 11/01/2016 03:47:20
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829221
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

PermeateFree said:


Frogs are such attentive listeners.

:P

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Date: 11/01/2016 04:26:45
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829222
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

The_observer said:


roughbarked said:

AwesomeO said:

Inspirational, roughy moves in and bushfires stop cos he planted some trees and did some mowing and with that example you led the people to a bushfire free existance, where before it had been a yearly event.

You should be in a movie. It is heartwarming.


As I said. You know where to shove it. You have no fucking idea.

Oh, for humanities sake Postpocelipse, make it stop.

!http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120315005223/uncyclopedia/images/6/63/Big_brother_is_watching_you

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Date: 11/01/2016 04:29:33
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 829223
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

The_observer said:

Oh, for humanities sake Postpocelipse, make it stop.

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Date: 11/01/2016 04:43:09
From: PermeateFree
ID: 829224
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Postpocelipse said:


The_observer said:

Oh, for humanities sake Postpocelipse, make it stop.


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Date: 11/01/2016 05:04:49
From: kii
ID: 829225
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Everyday, this place gets weirder and weirder.

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Date: 11/01/2016 05:07:15
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 829226
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

kii said:


Everyday, this place gets weirder and weirder.

Ain’t that the truth.

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Date: 11/01/2016 05:31:48
From: kii
ID: 829228
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Witty Rejoinder said:


kii said:

Everyday, this place gets weirder and weirder.

Ain’t that the truth.

It’s like a psychiatrist’s filing cabinet :P

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Date: 12/01/2016 02:19:35
From: Kingy
ID: 829785
Subject: re: More Esperance Fires

Been a bit busy here lately, but there can’t be much left to burn around Esperance these days.

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