Bob Brown arrested at Tasmanian logging coupe

Leave the Forest alone

I’m not to proud to admit that I am unfamiliar with this use of the word coupe.

So is dictionary.com.

coupe1. 1 a closed, two-door car shorter than a sedan of the same model.
coupe2. 1 ice cream or sherbet mixed or topped with fruit, liqueur, whipped cream, etc.
coupe2. 2 a glass container for serving such a dessert, usually having a stem and a wide, deep bowl.
coupe2. 3 any rimless plate.
coupé 1 a short, four-wheeled, closed carriage, usually with a single seat for two passengers and an outside seat for the driver.
coupé 2 the end compartment in a European diligence or railroad car.
coupé 3 intermediary step to transfer the weight from one foot to the other.
coupé 4 party per fess.

Anyone else heard this term?

Yep, I’ve seen it used in this context often before.

dv said:

I’m not to proud to admit that I am unfamiliar with this use of the word coupe.

So is dictionary.com.

coupe1. 1 a closed, two-door car shorter than a sedan of the same model.
coupe2. 1 ice cream or sherbet mixed or topped with fruit, liqueur, whipped cream, etc.
coupe2. 2 a glass container for serving such a dessert, usually having a stem and a wide, deep bowl.
coupe2. 3 any rimless plate.
coupé 1 a short, four-wheeled, closed carriage, usually with a single seat for two passengers and an outside seat for the driver.
coupé 2 the end compartment in a European diligence or railroad car.
coupé 3 intermediary step to transfer the weight from one foot to the other.
coupé 4 party per fess.

Anyone else heard this term?

Yes, widely used in forestry matters. Has been that way for many years.

dv said:

I’m not to proud to admit that I am unfamiliar with this use of the word coupe.

So is dictionary.com.

coupe1. 1 a closed, two-door car shorter than a sedan of the same model.
coupe2. 1 ice cream or sherbet mixed or topped with fruit, liqueur, whipped cream, etc.
coupe2. 2 a glass container for serving such a dessert, usually having a stem and a wide, deep bowl.
coupe2. 3 any rimless plate.
coupé 1 a short, four-wheeled, closed carriage, usually with a single seat for two passengers and an outside seat for the driver.
coupé 2 the end compartment in a European diligence or railroad car.
coupé 3 intermediary step to transfer the weight from one foot to the other.
coupé 4 party per fess.

Anyone else heard this term?

Yes, I have. But then I have worked in forests, and had many conversations with professional foresters.

I am familiar with the term. It means an area of forest earmarked for harvesting.

So much to learn

Bubblecar said:

I am familiar with the term. It means an area of forest earmarked for harvesting.

No, it’s an area identification, not necessarily harvesting.

jjjust moi said:

Bubblecar said:

I am familiar with the term. It means an area of forest earmarked for harvesting.

No, it’s an area identification, not necessarily harvesting.

Here in Tas it’s usually used to designate regions that are being cleared.

Bubblecar said:

jjjust moi said:

Bubblecar said:

I am familiar with the term. It means an area of forest earmarked for harvesting.

No, it’s an area identification, not necessarily harvesting.

Here in Tas it’s usually used to designate regions that are being cleared.

Are they allowed to clear in Tasmania? Strange.

Hmm, does appear in some glossaries.

http://ukwas.org.uk/the-standard/glossary-of-terms
Coupe
An area of woodland that has been or is planned for clearfelling.

http://www.forestrycorporation.com.au/community/education/resources-and-publications/glossary#C
coupe
a small area of forest within a compartment that is harvested in a single operation.

jjjust moi said:

Are they allowed to clear in Tasmania? Strange.

That’s what this story is about:

About 70 people turned out at Lapoinya in the state’s north-west on Tuesday to protest against the clear felling of Forestry Tasmania’s 49-hectare regrowth coupe.

Oh, and it’s pronounced “coop”.

Bubblecar said:

jjjust moi said:

Are they allowed to clear in Tasmania? Strange.

That’s what this story is about:

About 70 people turned out at Lapoinya in the state’s north-west on Tuesday to protest against the clear felling of Forestry Tasmania’s 49-hectare regrowth coupe.

Regrowth is the key word here, no wonder Tasmania is such a bloody backwater with these type of actions.

jjjust moi said:

Bubblecar said:

jjjust moi said:

Are they allowed to clear in Tasmania? Strange.

That’s what this story is about:

About 70 people turned out at Lapoinya in the state’s north-west on Tuesday to protest against the clear felling of Forestry Tasmania’s 49-hectare regrowth coupe.

Regrowth is the key word here, no wonder Tasmania is such a bloody backwater with these type of actions.

It’s a bit hard to believe that this is still rumbling on.

49 hectare is bugger all.

so is one empty can thrown out of a car window.

ChrispenEvan said:

so is one empty can thrown out of a car window.

This.

Lapoinya is a habitat for giant freshwater lobsters and Tassie devils. The local people are all opposed to clear-felling. It may seem a small issue but if the view from your windows is temperate rainforest, you’re not going to want it replaced by devastation all for the sake of propping up an unprofitable logging industry.

You have to watch for that kind of creep.

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to a heavily logged area, no point in protecting it.”

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to that last area, no point in protecting it.”

“This whole area has been heavily logged, redraw the boundaries to exclude this whole valley.”

dv said:

You have to watch for that kind of creep.

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to a heavily logged area, no point in protecting it.”

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to that last area, no point in protecting it.”

“This whole area has been heavily logged, redraw the boundaries to exclude this whole valley.”

Yes. Much of the forest where I lived in South Mole Creek was regrowth, but it was still impressive forest with a wide range of trees and ferns etc. and a lot of wildlife.

dv said:

You have to watch for that kind of creep.

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to a heavily logged area, no point in protecting it.”

“It’s only 49 hectares and it is adjacent to that last area, no point in protecting it.”

“This whole area has been heavily logged, redraw the boundaries to exclude this whole valley.”

They can shut down all forestry, all industrial and manufacturing stuff all they like for mine.

Just don’t expect the rest of Australia to support their tree hugging life style.

They can shut down all forestry, all industrial and manufacturing stuff all they like for mine.

that there ladies and gentlemen is what is called a strawman argument.

no one is suggesting that whatsoever.

(i wonder is words like whatsoever, nonetheless etc are relics of the germanic roots of english)

ChrispenEvan said:

They can shut down all forestry, all industrial and manufacturing stuff all they like for mine.

that there ladies and gentlemen is what is called a strawman argument.

no one is suggesting that whatsoever.

(i wonder is words like whatsoever, nonetheless etc are relics of the germanic roots of english)

Have your opinion, I’ll have mine.

BTW there would be no argument that Tasmania has been the boil on the arse of The Australian economy for years.

BTW there would be no argument that Tasmania has been the boil on the arse of The Australian economy for years.

so? these are your fellow countrymen you are talking about.

ChrispenEvan said:

BTW there would be no argument that Tasmania has been the boil on the arse of The Australian economy for years.

so? these are your fellow countrymen you are talking about.

You mean the ones that try to block any progress whatsoever (germaoic rooted word), like Tasmania.

you seem to forget what you actually write and what i respond to.

ChrispenEvan said:

you seem to forget what you actually write and what i respond to.

Yes you have made a couple of strange posts this morning.

jjjust moi said:

ChrispenEvan said:

They can shut down all forestry, all industrial and manufacturing stuff all they like for mine.

that there ladies and gentlemen is what is called a strawman argument.

no one is suggesting that whatsoever.

(i wonder is words like whatsoever, nonetheless etc are relics of the germanic roots of english)

Have your opinion, I’ll have mine.

BTW there would be no argument that Tasmania has been the boil on the arse of The Australian economy for years.

It’s picked up a lot since the Greens/ALP experiment was deemed a failure and shut down.

not at all, tis you jm that is losing it. per normal though. probably age related.

ChrispenEvan said:

not at all, tis you jm that is losing it. per normal though. probably age related.

What has throwing a can out of a car window got to do with logging a regrowth forest then?

Nice to see your usual stuff, back to personal insults when you have no answer.

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

ChrispenEvan said:

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

Probably being polite.

ChrispenEvan said:

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

Point out my post where i personally insulted you in this thread.

Someone is losing it and it certainly isn’t me.

The term previously logged can be very misleading and is often used by current forestry when they want to log an area, as for the uninitiated, it conjures the impression that the place is a mess and has never really recovered. However many of these previously logged areas are of high conservation value, as previously logged can mean just a few trees were removed over 100 years ago when only the wanted tree was removed and then dragged out of the forest. It does not mean as it does today that the forest has been clear-felled and might never recover its former ecological value.

dv said:

You have to watch for that kind of creep.

Don’t refer to Bob Brown as a creep.

While talking forestry, I was trying to look up the timber species used in making toilet paper, without success except in finding out that it is 70% hardwood and 30% softwood, but I did find out that nothing goes to waste.

From the paper “Kraft process” in generating paper such as toilet paper from woodchips, the primary waste/byproduct is called black liquor, which is processed to tall oil which is primarily made from Abietic_acid . Other byproducts include lignin and hemicellulose.

Paper-making is a carbon-neutral process, trees are a renewable resource.

For “tall oil” for instance “The tall oil rosin finds use as a component of adhesives, rubbers, and inks, and as an emulsifier. The pitch is used as a binder in cement, an adhesive, and an emulsifier for asphalt. TOFA is a low-cost and vegetarian lifestyle-friendly alternative to tallow fatty acids for production of soaps and lubricants. When esterified with pentaerythritol, it is used as a compound of adhesives and oil-based varnishes. Tall oil is also used in oil drilling as a component of drilling fluids.

mollwollfumble said:

While talking forestry, I was trying to look up the timber species used in making toilet paper, without success except in finding out that it is 70% hardwood and 30% softwood, but I did find out that nothing goes to waste.

From the paper “Kraft process” in generating paper such as toilet paper from woodchips, the primary waste/byproduct is called black liquor, which is processed to tall oil which is primarily made from Abietic_acid . Other byproducts include lignin and hemicellulose.

Paper-making is a carbon-neutral process, trees are a renewable resource.

For “tall oil” for instance “The tall oil rosin finds use as a component of adhesives, rubbers, and inks, and as an emulsifier. The pitch is used as a binder in cement, an adhesive, and an emulsifier for asphalt. TOFA is a low-cost and vegetarian lifestyle-friendly alternative to tallow fatty acids for production of soaps and lubricants. When esterified with pentaerythritol, it is used as a compound of adhesives and oil-based varnishes. Tall oil is also used in oil drilling as a component of drilling fluids.

For your information Moll, a great deal of timber does go to waste! The Timber Industry in initially stated that there was much waste in conventional forestry, which included the upper parts of the tree and branches that remained on the ground and was burnt. However when they started gathering the timber from the bush, the tops of trees and branches still remained on the ground and were burnt and they took the main trunk, meaning they started to log purely for woodchips. That is not using waste, but creating it.

Trees are renewable, but they only make up a very small number of species in the forest and are vastly outnumbered by other species, both flora and fauna that along with the trees, make up the ecosystem and it is this that is not so easily replaced with the clear felling methods they use today. There is a great deal more to trees than just the timber.

jjjust moi said:

Bubblecar said:

I am familiar with the term. It means an area of forest earmarked for harvesting.

No, it’s an area identification, not necessarily harvesting.

Forestry is designated for harvesting as a part of the cycle. Might not be harvesting on the day but will be more than once over a period of the identification of the recorded area.

ChrispenEvan said:

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

It wasn’t difficult to grok. This is true.

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

It wasn’t difficult to grok. This is true.

Read to the end

PermeateFree said:

There is a great deal more to trees than just the timber.

Deep but very much so exact.

jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

ChrispenEvan said:

you started with the personal insult, another post you seem to have forgot what you wrote.

DV got the can reference. it isn’t a hard one.

It wasn’t difficult to grok. This is true.

Read to the end

I am at the end.

roughbarked said:

jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

It wasn’t difficult to grok. This is true.

Read to the end

I am at the end.

well you don’t “grok”, as usual.

you still whining jm? sheesh you are one miserable sod ain’t you? maybe if you got that chip off your shoulder about me you might be happy and a little more on the ball.

jjjust moi said:

roughbarked said:

jjjust moi said:

Read to the end

I am at the end.

well you don’t “grok”, as usual.

What am I not supposed to be grokking in your view?

All I mentioned in that regard was the can.

PermeateFree said:

The term previously logged can be very misleading and is often used by current forestry when they want to log an area, as for the uninitiated, it conjures the impression that the place is a mess and has never really recovered. However many of these previously logged areas are of high conservation value, as previously logged can mean just a few trees were removed over 100 years ago when only the wanted tree was removed and then dragged out of the forest. It does not mean as it does today that the forest has been clear-felled and might never recover its former ecological value.

Yes. There are very few areas remaining in Australia which remain untouched. Historically, only the most valuable trees were selected and removed, but now it is very different.

A year ago we travelled to Tasmania and visited this region just south of Stanley. Being regular travelers who are into 4WDing, we have seen many recently-logged forests, but this was something else. To say we were shocked by the level of destruction is an understatement.