Date: 9/02/2016 19:54:30
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844371
Subject: Heliocentricity?

I was just reading this blog- No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex”_, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” , when I thought of a plausible explanation for gravity.

Is gravity the heliocentric force asserted on a nucleus by it’s captured electrons?

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Date: 9/02/2016 19:56:16
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844372
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

And what is the maths to heliocentrics?

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Date: 9/02/2016 19:57:20
From: sibeen
ID: 844374
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Postpocelipse said:


I was just reading this blog- No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex”_, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” , when I thought of a plausible explanation for gravity.

Is gravity the heliocentric force asserted on a nucleus by it’s captured electrons?

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

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Date: 9/02/2016 19:58:33
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844377
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

sibeen said:


Postpocelipse said:

I was just reading this blog- No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex”_, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” , when I thought of a plausible explanation for gravity.

Is gravity the heliocentric force asserted on a nucleus by it’s captured electrons?

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

I’m not convinced……..

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Date: 9/02/2016 19:58:59
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 844378
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

sibeen said:


I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

What if I wave my hands more vigorously?

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:00:39
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 844380
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

sibeen said:


Postpocelipse said:

I was just reading this blog- No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex”_, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” , when I thought of a plausible explanation for gravity.

Is gravity the heliocentric force asserted on a nucleus by it’s captured electrons?

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

I don’t know what it means, but since you can have gravity without electrons I will have to agree with sibeen.

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:03:26
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844382
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

The Rev Dodgson said:


sibeen said:

Postpocelipse said:

I was just reading this blog- No, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex”_, Our Solar System is NOT a “Vortex” , when I thought of a plausible explanation for gravity.

Is gravity the heliocentric force asserted on a nucleus by it’s captured electrons?

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

I don’t know what it means, but since you can have gravity without electrons I will have to agree with sibeen.

Plasma is plasma. Gravity matters when it coalesces matter. Heliocentric force is the force that makes a top wobble. Seems perfectly plausible to me with understanding of the basic characteristics of electrons, protons and neutrons that heliocentric force is responsible for gravitation.

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:08:16
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 844383
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Postpocelipse said:

Heliocentric force is the force that makes a top wobble.

Both the answer to everything and the meaning of the greek words suggest that it means a force directed towards the centre of the Sun, rather than the force that makes a top wobble.

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:12:35
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 844384
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Working link:
Not a vortex

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:15:12
From: buffy
ID: 844386
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Is this the New Physics again?

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:43:51
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 844390
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

buffy said:

Is this the New Physics again?

That rings a bell.

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Date: 9/02/2016 20:56:11
From: Boris
ID: 844394
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Worldlines

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Date: 10/02/2016 00:10:56
From: wookiemeister
ID: 844515
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Witty Rejoinder said:


sibeen said:

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

What if I wave my hands more vigorously?


can you try it like you are flapping wings? i have found this this will help in any debate

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Date: 10/02/2016 00:14:17
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 844516
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

wookiemeister said:


Witty Rejoinder said:

sibeen said:

I can state categorically that the answer to the above will be no.

What if I wave my hands more vigorously?


can you try it like you are flapping wings? i have found this this will help in any debate

I found that flapping wings helped when listening to Tony Abbott

Luckily I don’t have to do that any more.

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Date: 10/02/2016 00:53:50
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844532
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

The Rev Dodgson said:


Postpocelipse said:
Heliocentric force is the force that makes a top wobble.

Both the answer to everything and the meaning of the greek words suggest that it means a force directed towards the centre of the Sun, rather than the force that makes a top wobble.

You would be right there. He cites precession as the force that makes a top wobble. Fair enough. I would have to change the title to precessional force and suggest that gravity is this. I had read past the particular reference and replaced the relevant reference with that of the main reference of the blog.

So, is gravitation a force of precession exerted between a particles nucleus and that of it’s electrons?

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Date: 10/02/2016 02:51:58
From: dv
ID: 844535
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Postpocelipse said:

So, is gravitation a force of precession exerted between a particles nucleus and that of it’s electrons?

Nope.

Gravitation can be viewed as a force between all massive objects in the universe, though probably most careful modern writers would prefer to describe as the effect that concentrations of mass-energy have on the shape of space-time.

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Date: 10/02/2016 07:55:09
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844548
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

dv said:


Postpocelipse said:

So, is gravitation a force of precession exerted between a particles nucleus and that of it’s electrons?

Nope.

Gravitation can be viewed as a force between all massive objects in the universe, though probably most careful modern writers would prefer to describe as the effect that concentrations of mass-energy have on the shape of space-time.

Unfortunately dv your answer doesn’t convince me as yet. It does not rule it out in any manner.

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Date: 10/02/2016 08:51:36
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 844571
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Postpocelipse said:


dv said:

Postpocelipse said:

So, is gravitation a force of precession exerted between a particles nucleus and that of it’s electrons?

Nope.

Gravitation can be viewed as a force between all massive objects in the universe, though probably most careful modern writers would prefer to describe as the effect that concentrations of mass-energy have on the shape of space-time.

Unfortunately dv your answer doesn’t convince me as yet. It does not rule it out in any manner.

I’m with postpoc on this one.

Saying that gravity is the result of an interaction between mass (whatever that is) and space-time (whatever that is) does not preclude consideration of what the mechanism(s) of that interaction might be.

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Date: 10/02/2016 10:40:32
From: diddly-squat
ID: 844593
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

Postpocelipse said:


And what is the maths to heliocentrics?

The word heliocentric is an adjective… it’s used to describe a theory that involves the sun at the centre of (primarily) our solar system. It has no ‘maths’ per se…

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Date: 10/02/2016 11:10:14
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 844602
Subject: re: Heliocentricity?

The Rev Dodgson said:


Postpocelipse said:

dv said:

Nope.

Gravitation can be viewed as a force between all massive objects in the universe, though probably most careful modern writers would prefer to describe as the effect that concentrations of mass-energy have on the shape of space-time.

Unfortunately dv your answer doesn’t convince me as yet. It does not rule it out in any manner.

I’m with postpoc on this one.

Saying that gravity is the result of an interaction between mass (whatever that is) and space-time (whatever that is) does not preclude consideration of what the mechanism(s) of that interaction might be.

Thank you Rev. I believe I have begun to comprehend the measurement scenario within the hypothesis which involves comparison of particles under plasma condition and those of accreted matter.

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