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I buy this if I can get it in the shops, this is the Nov/Dec08 edition…worth every cent IMHO…doesn’t always suit me and I have to be quick to beat all the other eager buyers…It only lasts a week in the newsagent…

Yes I know I could subscribe but there is something to be said for browsing the mags in real life…

The herbs article is particularly good this issue: it contains the usual bumf about how to grow, plus some history, and companion planting…

Also an easy to understand couple of pages on planting with cow horns…or is that fertilizing with cow horns…still wrapping my mind around this one, but I’m getting there…

ok – herbs are interesting – so i’ll check it out.
i must separate my purple and florence fennel bulbs.
i also need to plant endive and chervil.

cow horns have got me beat too – BD people have monopolised them – so they’re hard to get.

in fact the article about cow horns is a BD article. a good article at that. this particular issue is good all round.

What really took my fancy in this particular edition, was the notion of points of the compass affecting what grows where in your allotment.

For example, vegetables grow best at the eastern part.

Can’t remember the rest, as I only glanced briefly through the mag…skim-read?…but I like it when one can go back from time to time and get a bit more out of the articles each time.

Depends on which part of the globe one lives as to where things grow best. Just observed the gardening show on the ABC tell me that one should plant evergreen trees on the western side to protect the garden from the fierce western sun. However if one lived in the lee of a hill on the west then such information would not be so useful.

roughbarked said:

Depends on which part of the globe one lives as to where things grow best. Just observed the gardening show on the ABC tell me that one should plant evergreen trees on the western side to protect the garden from the fierce western sun. However if one lived in the lee of a hill on the west then such information would not be so useful.

True, but what grabbed my attention was the comment that the south-western corner is regarded as “fiery” and mine certainly is…it’s interesting tho’ to consider these things when planning a new garden bed (which I am doing)…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Depends on which part of the globe one lives as to where things grow best. Just observed the gardening show on the ABC tell me that one should plant evergreen trees on the western side to protect the garden from the fierce western sun. However if one lived in the lee of a hill on the west then such information would not be so useful.

True, but what grabbed my attention was the comment that the south-western corner is regarded as “fiery” and mine certainly is…it’s interesting tho’ to consider these things when planning a new garden bed (which I am doing)…

but what about the bit of land to the south-west of your plot. To someone else that would be their north-eastern corner?

always a good idea to plan ahead.

To someone else that would be their north-eastern corner?

Yep and permaculture designers have thought this out very carefully.

Also this would all be the reverse on the other side of the equator.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Depends on which part of the globe one lives as to where things grow best. Just observed the gardening show on the ABC tell me that one should plant evergreen trees on the western side to protect the garden from the fierce western sun. However if one lived in the lee of a hill on the west then such information would not be so useful.

True, but what grabbed my attention was the comment that the south-western corner is regarded as “fiery” and mine certainly is…it’s interesting tho’ to consider these things when planning a new garden bed (which I am doing)…

but what about the bit of land to the south-west of your plot. To someone else that would be their north-eastern corner?

Yep, but they are a quarter of a mile away…nobody except dirty big cotton farm the other way…and the northeastern corner of anywhere gets great morning sun, while the southwestern gets the full hit of summer afternoon sun…if there is no structures in between (including trees) to define northeast from southwest, as in the desert or great prarie plains, well nothing much grows in one and it’s pretty much all the same vegetation in the other…

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Depends on which part of the globe one lives as to where things grow best. Just observed the gardening show on the ABC tell me that one should plant evergreen trees on the western side to protect the garden from the fierce western sun. However if one lived in the lee of a hill on the west then such information would not be so useful.

Well that sounds pretty much like my area too. You have complete free reign in your design.. unless of course you are confined by an existing house and boundary to house yard.

•think a open c shape facing east north east
•make the west/southwest C shape from evergreen natives tolerant of your conditions.
•plant all deciduous fruit trees on the eastern side
•leave the north and north east sides open. you will find that you can grow just about any veg you want inside the c space.

True, but what grabbed my attention was the comment that the south-western corner is regarded as “fiery” and mine certainly is…it’s interesting tho’ to consider these things when planning a new garden bed (which I am doing)…

but what about the bit of land to the south-west of your plot. To someone else that would be their north-eastern corner?

Yep, but they are a quarter of a mile away…nobody except dirty big cotton farm the other way…and the northeastern corner of anywhere gets great morning sun, while the southwestern gets the full hit of summer afternoon sun…if there is no structures in between (including trees) to define northeast from southwest, as in the desert or great prarie plains, well nothing much grows in one and it’s pretty much all the same vegetation in the other…

Thanks RoughBarked…

(I found your bulleted comment in the middle)

:)

weird how that came out.. but at least you got the message.

I was limited to the layout of the village street in which I live which luckily bends slightly in the right direction and heads off down a slight grade away to the east of my block, thus allowing me more easterly sun access than I may have had otherwise and because I’m on everyone’s south west.. i help cool them.
I planted a looong L shape of trees or an <-west L______ -> east … hundreds of native trees did it all myself without any help until some of the ones further away asked if they watered.. would I come down and plant more there.

understanding wind and sun angles is the same as understanding ‘organic’ – too simple – and yet most people seem to forget it.
also some 30 trees were planted under power lines on this land – ‘look up’ is another one of those oft forgot rules.

i bought the warm earth mag and a gardenia watering wand.

the mag is as good as dinetta said – interesting articles throughout. the herb pages are the ones i already grow – but companion planting guide is interesting.

the gardenia handspray i use has lasted 4 years without many problems so i’m staying with that brand.

until some of the ones further away asked if they watered.. would I come down and plant more there.
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Oh, good on them!!

Sorry but I’ve never seen the warm earth mag.. though i have collections of mags like “earth garden”

roughbarked said:

Sorry but I’ve never seen the warm earth mag.. though i have collections of mags like “earth garden”

It is a Queensland publication, but they have a significant contribution from South Australia…it is aimed at home gardeners in australia and is published by a home gardener in Queensland…distinctly lacking in pretensions but it is one you can take into the garden and use as an instruction manual…

http://www.warmearth.com.au/

Here is the website…