There has been a considerable study on the subjective nature of happy. Does happy have an objective side? Of course it does, provided one confines ones definition of happy to oneself in a practical manner. We are content in ourselves when we are confident of our ability to comprehend and overcome conceivable limitations.

This is arguably as far as secondary education can comfortably set it’s bar if we can hope to achieve a stable standard of educational philosophy. High school need only provide practical self assurance for it to have addressed it’s purpose of supplying a capable person to society. For this reason I would question the purpose of structuring years 11 & 12 as they have been.

I would therefore propose that a likely option might be to eliminate 11 & 12 from the traditional tertiary curriculum and relegate it to a subsidiary of the tertiary system that contributes financially by requiring students progressing to work part time for the educational establishment-say for instance the UN bought McDonald’s and only tertiary students could work there.

This might address the financial requirements of educational facilities while providing a more suitable learning environment for tertiary students by ensuring their mental output is balanced by environments in which their social and societal experience is fostered. McDonald’s is only a basic example of a work area that might be provided to those tertiary students who only seek a managerial role for instance, while those who wish to go on to significantly higher learning fields might be found greater room for direct work experience in their chosen field.

There is a fair amount I could further illustrate around the concept of balancing expectation with reality but this a good start for a broader discussion.

i would replace the teachers with robots

robots don’t go on strike

don’t turn up late

will follow a curriculum

will know a subject

all robots can teach all subjects , they would on wheels and could be pushed around the school by the caretaker and his cat

there would be no head teacher

a feeling of being in control can bring happiness
losing control can bring anger

CrazyNeutrino said:

a feeling of being in control can bring happiness
losing control can bring anger

Your analogy provides redirection of wookie’s observation of already redundant realities. Where wookie’s ‘robot educators’ fall short as conceivably the already existing tablet reference system has the capacity to make the requirement for printed text redundant while enhancing the comprehensive capacity through superior reference system to that a single classroom teacher can provide, your reference allows introduction of various mentor factors.

Systemic throughout history but faltering under the pressures of the modern ‘western’ ids, has been the presence of the extended family throughout the development of civilization. The local aborigine have the most preserved example of the working hunter gather culture still existing. The distinctions they make are simple and intended to allow free expression of empathy between offspring and birth parents, while providing an authority figure in the form of the ever-present shadows of bohbo-gu and niji-mang. Within a simple environment this is as successful as the indigenous population in the year 1700 would have indicated with conditions on the Gondwanan continent.

Returning to the present questions, human supervision will always be required on hand until a child can be genuinely trusted to move past niji-mang’s reach and dare to enter the lands of the bahba-gu tribes in matters of yulun. Today’s child might be most easily considered an adult when an authorised and registered uncle can get Bohbo-gu to sign off on him. This much regulation of the human condition as community mediation would at least allow for as complete a psychological comprehension of a school-leaver as would be required to genuinely turn a blind eye on them when they get their licenses and start getting legal hangovers.

To momentarily digress, this might facilitate a global paradigm shift in the penal system, at least after the effect of instituting as humanely sensitive a mentoring based community monitoring philosophy as any particular nations current culture would allow for. For myself, the simple threat of isolation from human contact would leave me perfectly willing to put up with living confined from the general population while I proved I could pass basic year ten requirements, had I breached the boundaries of the laws concerning community safety. But I did digress……

The aboriginal family unit provides a simple reference for addressing the basic human needs of the developing community members most basic adult human’s necessities, the capacity to assess one’s own abilities and the honesty to admit to someone appropriate where their capacities aren’t appropriate. The id that says the philosophies behind phrases like ‘tough love’ might not be belabored to the point it is casting those who slip through the minimum requirements of the current education system has evolved to, into almost certain lives of poverty and possible criminal recidivism.

….. I’ll get back to this later. Things to do and whatever……

… thread footnote; Pragmappiness is a fair word jumble for the state of readiness the community might expect a child’s education to provide them……end note.

errm…..

… thread footnote; Pragmappiness is a fair word jumble for the state of readiness the community might expect a child’s education to provide them……end note.

With sufficient preparation this Pragmappiness philosophy could extend through the education system to further define the legal system and basic human rights. A legislated education standard minimum as mandatory human necessity could provide the following;

a) a education level equivalent to the current year 10 as oblique standard with provision that the individual’s appointed mentors sign off on the pupils otherwise meaningfull ability to pass beyond the secondary system with self-reliance.

b) a recognition that should a member of the community break a reasonable law it is firstly the responsibility of the education system to account for this action. On minimal grounds should a law-breaker be found guilty of the crime if that person cannot pass the yr10 exams. It would follow that a violent criminal could only plead guilty once that person had spent sufficient time in minimal confinement to achieve yr 10 passes.

………. err,

Not sure I’ve thought past about here, right at this moment…….

To review the sentiments alluded to in the initial post, to continue to glibly repeat the age old observation that the concept of happiness is largely subjective, without comprehensively identifying that there is a meek and entirely functional goal in the ‘pursuit of happiness’, then it is more than likely the reason one is repeating what the scholarly have remarked on for eons is simply to over-extend the boundaries of the conventions of tough love so that the competitive offset between the functional and dysfunction becomes an innate right of the over-achiever to not simply take advantage of the way-sided battler in a constructively competitive manner, but to subjugate the victim to a position of prey in an intellectual ecosystem where the most ruthless and least empathic are pinnacle predators.

Postpocelipse- _Conceiver of Pragmappic Philosophy and Accompanying Principals……

It used to be the education brought good employment – that was true only so long as the percentage of people who were educated remained small, and so long as education kept pace with the times.

mollwollfumble said:

It used to be the education brought good employment – that was true only so long as the percentage of people who were educated remained small, and so long as education kept pace with the times.

It should be the philosophy of the education system to discover and groom the innate talents and skills that every individual is born with to a level that is functionally productive for the entire community and as a basic right of any individual. It is only counter-productive to make an outlaw of those who’ve been provided minimum opportunity to succeed.

If it is standard among modern nations and so it should be to have a public prosecutor mentor. PP’s here are referred to as public guardians while their role largely defends the property of the successful(9/10ths of the law and all). It is left to the limited options allowed to magistrates and judges to provide the ‘offender’ with a rehabilatory sentence of any value.

Rehabilitation could genuinely be an area of significant employment and value to the community.

of little ol’ me, which’s all i’m qualified regards
i’m sort of with freud, you know that absence of debilitatin’ discontent idea
or, work is in progress that’ll soften that mess
render’t endurable here’n there some peace, need not be happiness
nah goodly thought effort I reckon does’t hurts
but there’re adjustments, too not all’s ‘bout thinkies nor be all ‘bout culture
i am workin’ class, an anarchist, the antichrist
there is ambition, gods of ambition’n those that worship it latter thing
be sure pragmatism can be a nasty business
it sounds right-think unquestionable, but be cautious of what you’re inured
addictive is normal, true’t a comfortable place
pragmatism’n expediency they’re cohabit some’n had many children
Mr Howard for one a very threwd man he was
not at all seduced by idealisms, certainly though pragmatism he idealized

Thank you very much transition. :)