Date: 25/02/2016 10:00:12
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 851368
Subject: SR question

It’s understood that disparate velocities do not effect the particle speed of a photon that reaches an object from another. My question is does relativity disparity effect the wavelength of the photon as that reaches the object?

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Date: 25/02/2016 10:20:30
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 851369
Subject: re: SR question

doppler shift is observed. hence we see red shift in receding galaxies due to the expansion of space.

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Date: 25/02/2016 10:43:42
From: Dropbear
ID: 851373
Subject: re: SR question

ChrispenEvan said:


doppler shift is observed. hence we see red shift in receding galaxies due to the expansion of space.

that’s not a relativistic effect though

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Date: 25/02/2016 10:56:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 851379
Subject: re: SR question

ok, time dilation is included

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_Doppler_effect

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:30:46
From: dv
ID: 851390
Subject: re: SR question

Locally, all photons have the same speed, but their energy differs.

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:36:06
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 851395
Subject: re: SR question

Postpocelipse said:


It’s understood that disparate velocities do not effect the particle speed of a photon that reaches an object from another. My question is does relativity disparity effect the wavelength of the photon as that reaches the object?

To summarise the answer given by Crispen and DV, the answer is “Yes”.

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:42:07
From: Dropbear
ID: 851400
Subject: re: SR question

mollwollfumble said:


Postpocelipse said:

It’s understood that disparate velocities do not effect the particle speed of a photon that reaches an object from another. My question is does relativity disparity effect the wavelength of the photon as that reaches the object?

To summarise the answer given by Crispen and DV, the answer is “Yes”.

or, more correctly, no

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:43:21
From: Cymek
ID: 851402
Subject: re: SR question

Dropbear said:


mollwollfumble said:

Postpocelipse said:

It’s understood that disparate velocities do not effect the particle speed of a photon that reaches an object from another. My question is does relativity disparity effect the wavelength of the photon as that reaches the object?

To summarise the answer given by Crispen and DV, the answer is “Yes”.

or, more correctly, no

Compromise with a maybe

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:45:06
From: furious
ID: 851404
Subject: re: SR question

Yes? No? Maybe? I’m going to give you an answer that I know to be 100% correct:

I don’t know…

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:46:26
From: Dropbear
ID: 851406
Subject: re: SR question

I thought red shift was due to stretched space time, not differences in relative velocity within space-time,but then again I’m as dumb as a post.

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Date: 25/02/2016 11:48:12
From: dv
ID: 851409
Subject: re: SR question

Phil gives a good summary


Some redshifts are an example of the Doppler effect, familiar in the change of apparent pitches of sirens and frequency of the sound waves emitted by speeding vehicles. A redshift occurs whenever a light source moves away from an observer. Another kind of redshift is cosmological redshift, which is due to the expansion of the universe, and sufficiently distant light sources (generally more than a few million light years away) show redshift corresponding to the rate of increase in their distance from Earth. Finally, gravitational redshift is a relativistic effect observed in electromagnetic radiation moving out of gravitational fields.

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Date: 25/02/2016 12:01:32
From: btm
ID: 851416
Subject: re: SR question

I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn’t know. — Mark Twain

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Date: 25/02/2016 19:44:16
From: Postpocelipse
ID: 851587
Subject: re: SR question

Thanks. Had a bit of insomnia going on and forgot the relevant measurement…..

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